bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

Andrew, please watch this and see if you want to stick up for her

I have watched this twice and I simply can't believe it's real and that I haven't just been gassed by the Scarecrow's fear toxin pic.twitter.com/Qgn36xl6WC

— ACAB Rees-Mogg (@jelly_pack) August 7, 2019

Last thing of hers I watched turned me into a brexiter for several days

This is Bob Dylan to me xp

xp - the tweet linked in the article is from Jan Moudrak, of course it's in his interests to big up how close they are. The one they're 'quoting' is I'm guessing the one from the first screenshot where she says she made friends with some of the Yellow Vests and @s JM, and this immediately turns into "She made friends with Generation Identity" because Twitter is terrible.

"We agree on everything but you have to go to the guillotines because #aesthetics" has never been far below the surface of this thread!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxMCeeiU0AE14GN?format=jpg&name=900x900

Soft soaping white nationalists is a bit more than #aesthetics

I just find it intriguing that you’re giving the benefit of the doubt to, idk, some dead eyed 25 year old palling around with the fash yet again “because twitter”. Nothing to say about her posing at the Holocaust memorial either?

The 'they' there were the Yellow Vests she met who "expressed concerns about lack of representation of ethnic minorities in parliament...", which are some very special members of Generation Identity!

Yeah, we can forget this, I really don’t have the energy or inclination to argue this with someone who doesn’t have a fucking clue. But I guess it’ll never affect you, will it?

Yeah, we can forget this, I really don’t have the energy or inclination to argue this with someone who doesn’t have a fucking clue and has no concept about what they’re excusing. But I guess it’ll never affect you, will it?

She's larking around at the memorial - kids do!

a) here's something we can agree on:

Philip Pullman calls for boycott of Brexit 50p coin over 'missing' Oxford comma https://t.co/W031EUmM8Q

— The Guardian (@guardian) January 27, 2020

b) seriously, go fuck yourself.

(to be clear I am calling for the melting down of Philip Pullman)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/27/keir-starmer-accuses-of-boris-johnson-of-doing-a-runner-on-huawei

Does Starmer, or Labour in general, have a position on this? It's not particularly useful to (correctly) identify Johnson's absentee landlordism if you can't articulate why, or if, it matters.

"Lots of questions to be asked"

I want to have an option on my phone to spy for the Chinese MSS, so get fucked USA! Whenever I hear Starmer's voice I turn off the radio before I commit an act of violence against it. I was chatting to an old boy in the park earlier who I always assumed was a Tory and it turns out he was a Labour '17/leave voter that didn't vote this time because of *that* policy. His wife voted Labour cos she is one of the Waspi women. He's ever so slightly xenophobic and was babbling on about apocryphal tales of Polish families getting £500 a week in benefits blah blah. But at least we agreed that Starmer is a cop and a tory cunt!

Sorry AF looking forward to that 50p coin.

I'm look forward to throwing one at Starmer's ugly ass head if he ever shows up in my town!

can you measure the amount of sleep Branson will lose now Starmer is gunning after him in milliseconds? Not really, if anything he'll gathering up extra sleep and depositing it in the sleep bank!

Sweet Jesus I clicked around on the 'Intelligence Squared' website to investigate that thing above and now I'm getting Facebook ads that "Will Self and Kate Hoey go head to head to debate on January 28"

One for the diary that.

lol @ the idea that "aesthetics" are insignificant when considering fascism have u ever heard of anything

the empire of whiteness meanings that are certainly attached to plenty of fbpe discourses have never received the attention they deserve. tomorrow belongs to eu supergirl.

Apparently this chap is an ‘economist’ and a ‘lawyer’. https://t.co/U9p1syJ7kl

— Mark Seddon (@MarkSeddon1962) January 27, 2020

Calm yourself down son, I don't think mftkz meant anything other than "she is an annoying young woman"

Not seeing any coverage of this in the UK papers or the BBC:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/hamedaleaziz/british-immigrant-dies-ice-custody

ICE officials have long said that the agency is dedicated to providing timely and comprehensive medical care to immigrants in its custody, noting that they have access to a daily sick call and 24-hour emergency care.

yes, I absolutely unreservedly believe that statement 100%

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/27/keir-starmer-accuses-of-boris-johnson-of-doing-a-runner-on-huawei

Does Starmer, or Labour in general, have a position on this? It's not particularly useful to (correctly) identify Johnson's absentee landlordism if you can't articulate why, or if, it matters.

― ShariVari, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:54 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

For those looking to define what a left-wing patriotism looks like this seems like an easy way to do it - by asserting a specifically British right to privacy from transnational snooping, whether it comes from China or Menlo Park

Or GCHQ tbf!

Unless that's racist? Or allowing racism in? Ultimately there's probably no good way to use the word 'patriotism'.

But there's a left-wing case to be made for democratic oversight of tech - and saying 'no' when a supplier can't confirm agreed controls for privacy or moderation

Labour leadership contender, Keir Starmer, said Labour ignored the middle class in the last election pic.twitter.com/ICizD8gU6x

— PA Media (@PA) January 28, 2020

How does he back that up? it's just absolute bollocks. Next he'll be using that old Leslie classic about Labour needing to be the party of the rich consumer class Which magazine reader, he's not even trying not be such an obvious tory melt now! As I recall there were thousands of middle class party activists giving up their time for a manifesto that didn't have anything that wouldn't have improved their lives as well? What a prick.

nah this is fine now we just need someone to say Labour ignored the richiest richies and they'll have covered all bases

they might as well have just invited Chris Leslie back to the party, he's probably slightly to the left of Starmer!

if tables could talk

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My guess is he's talking about a kind of aspirational working-to-middle class voter group in the Midlands in particular who voted against Labour in their droves. This might be a natural Tory group at this stage but otherwise its a classic swing voter group.

The 2015 leadership campaigns focused heavily on this group to the exclusion of pretty much everything else and look what happened. Pretty sure that the metropolitan middle class isn't what's being talked about here.

"aspirational working-to-middle class voter group"

rather than saying we need to appeal to this swing group, the conservation should be more about asking if such a group will even exist within a decade of toryism or more of the same packaged differently.

Isn't it proven that even aspirational working class people still think of themselves as working class and have no desire to be thought of as middle class and called middle class?

idk how those people can be won back other than through losing confidence in the Tories to maintain the economy on a relatively even keel. 'Swing voter' seems instinctively correct but i struggle to think of much in the way of policy that is likely to get them into Labour's corner.

I might be thinking of polls or surveys done years ago but I thought the majority of people in the country still call themsleves working class?

lots of quite well off culturally working class, fiscally middle class people probably don't even have a bookshelf in the house!

I see lots of these every Sunday at the local football club. They talk like braindead neanderthal thugs, but turn up in £12 grand cars.

could have a nationalised tattooist chain offering free tribal tats for all!

One thing I've noticed going past some of the £180 000 houses of these posh thugs is that they often have some huge (and hugely narcissistic) vanity pic of them with their bairn over the fireplace.

Yeah I don't know how you win this group round either but Starmer's statement isn't really about fact, it's about batsignalling to the people who felt ignored last time, whether they were or not.

One of the many reasons that Labour lost the last election was that they bet too much on groups of voters (including mythical silent-majority groups) that didn't turn out to be as large as expected, or were concentrated in the wrong parts of the country. The challenge is how you add other groups to yr coalition of voters without either going full Blair and alienating your existing voters, or just waiting for the Tories to lead us into economic disaster.

Brexit 50p banter from all sides has passed through irrelevant and tedious to actively fucking annoying now, passive-aggressive wanking while rome burns.

Starmer has been bat-signalling across the whole political spectrum because that is what he I guess, an absolute classic melt. Didn't you see the video where he revealed his radical left past as a member of the angry brigade in the 70's and his part in an operation to blow up a Tory MP's caravan!

hang on is blowing up Tory caravans bad or good

One of the many reasons that Labour lost the last election was that they bet too much on groups of voters (including mythical silent-majority groups) that didn't turn out to be as large as expected, or were concentrated in the wrong parts of the country. The challenge is how you add other groups to yr coalition of voters without either going full Blair and alienating your existing voters, or just waiting for the Tories to lead us into economic disaster.

One of the things that give me pause when Sanders, etc, talk about 'activating non-voters' in the US.

When was the last time we had a change of government that wasn't precipitated by an economic crisis? The 60s?

xp

good but better when they are inside it or some of smouldering blast debris sets their house ablaze as well!

my favourite self-own of Starmer's was when he said his father was a humble tool-maker.

It doesn't matter what signals Starmer is putting out now imo. What is beyond doubt is that he will be completely pliable to the right of the party, even if some of his intentions are honourable right now he's shown he has a history of completely lacking any conviction and always following the path of least resistance.