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Gyac read Mishima Led by Donkeys aren't even good enough to commit mass Seppuku on the big day xp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 January 2020 12:24 (six years ago)

Ok, I will, if I turn fascist I blame you

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 12:27 (six years ago)

i feel like The Nobility of Failure is as good an exposition of his politics as any fascist stuff

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 January 2020 12:29 (six years ago)

There's a LOT wrong with that picture, but I think I'd struggle to call it racist? The rest is that out of the thousands of she @s and meets a few are unsavoury, which (shrug).

(I know that there's this weird faction that assumes that the Mogg is significant because everyone who is pro-EU is secretly pretending and will turn to the far-right eventually, but I don't really feel the need to pay that theory any attention)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 12:41 (six years ago)

No, I’d say the crowd who want to ethnically cleanse Europe is more significant in that regard.

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 12:42 (six years ago)

the_eu_supergirl_defender has logged on

chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 27 January 2020 12:44 (six years ago)

I can take her or leave her, I was curious if there was something there.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 12:54 (six years ago)

I suppose it depends how much you feel how bad this is.

But finally, and most disappointingly, you alienate your natural allies. Just this week, self-styled “#EUSupergirl” Kay tweeted that she had “made friends” with a right-wing extremist in favour of “repatriation” and driving out “degeneracy”.

“I’m seriously wondering what the hell is going through the popular remainers heads right now,” tweeted writer and policy analyst Julien Hoez in response to Kay’s announcement. “(The European Parliament’s] Young European of the Year … is making “friends” with white supremacists(.)”

“The (yellow vests) want people like me dead. Sooner than later,” wrote another tweeter. “I’m so glad #EUSupergirl can make friends with them while ‘fighting Brexit.’”
“Maddy wants to sympathise with the concerns of people who want a ‘homogeneous society’ of white rulers over a white Britain. I’m mixed-race,” said another. “What do Maddy’s new friends have planned for me? Oh … I’m not from the EU. I’m ‘already under the bus’ as Femi puts it.”

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 12:58 (six years ago)

Aye, that article gets a lot of distance out of a tweet that doesn't exist.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:03 (six years ago)

Because she fucking deleted it?! Good to see where your priorities are.

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 13:04 (six years ago)

I can take her or leave her, I was curious if there was something there.

Why would you take her though?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 27 January 2020 13:16 (six years ago)

Andrew, please watch this and see if you want to stick up for her

I have watched this twice and I simply can't believe it's real and that I haven't just been gassed by the Scarecrow's fear toxin pic.twitter.com/Qgn36xl6WC

— ACAB Rees-Mogg (@jelly_pack) August 7, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 27 January 2020 13:23 (six years ago)

Last thing of hers I watched turned me into a brexiter for several days

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Monday, 27 January 2020 13:25 (six years ago)

This is Bob Dylan to me xp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:27 (six years ago)

xp - the tweet linked in the article is from Jan Moudrak, of course it's in his interests to big up how close they are. The one they're 'quoting' is I'm guessing the one from the first screenshot where she says she made friends with some of the Yellow Vests and @s JM, and this immediately turns into "She made friends with Generation Identity" because Twitter is terrible.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:27 (six years ago)

"We agree on everything but you have to go to the guillotines because #aesthetics" has never been far below the surface of this thread!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:29 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxMCeeiU0AE14GN?format=jpg&name=900x900

Soft soaping white nationalists is a bit more than #aesthetics

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 13:31 (six years ago)

I just find it intriguing that you’re giving the benefit of the doubt to, idk, some dead eyed 25 year old palling around with the fash yet again “because twitter”. Nothing to say about her posing at the Holocaust memorial either?

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 13:33 (six years ago)

The 'they' there were the Yellow Vests she met who "expressed concerns about lack of representation of ethnic minorities in parliament...", which are some very special members of Generation Identity!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:38 (six years ago)

Yeah, we can forget this, I really don’t have the energy or inclination to argue this with someone who doesn’t have a fucking clue. But I guess it’ll never affect you, will it?

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 13:39 (six years ago)

Yeah, we can forget this, I really don’t have the energy or inclination to argue this with someone who doesn’t have a fucking clue and has no concept about what they’re excusing. But I guess it’ll never affect you, will it?

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 13:41 (six years ago)

She's larking around at the memorial - kids do!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:43 (six years ago)

a) here's something we can agree on:

Philip Pullman calls for boycott of Brexit 50p coin over 'missing' Oxford comma https://t.co/W031EUmM8Q

— The Guardian (@guardian) January 27, 2020

b) seriously, go fuck yourself.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:44 (six years ago)

(to be clear I am calling for the melting down of Philip Pullman)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:50 (six years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/27/keir-starmer-accuses-of-boris-johnson-of-doing-a-runner-on-huawei

Does Starmer, or Labour in general, have a position on this? It's not particularly useful to (correctly) identify Johnson's absentee landlordism if you can't articulate why, or if, it matters.

ShariVari, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:54 (six years ago)

"Lots of questions to be asked"

ShariVari, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:55 (six years ago)

I want to have an option on my phone to spy for the Chinese MSS, so get fucked USA! Whenever I hear Starmer's voice I turn off the radio before I commit an act of violence against it. I was chatting to an old boy in the park earlier who I always assumed was a Tory and it turns out he was a Labour '17/leave voter that didn't vote this time because of *that* policy. His wife voted Labour cos she is one of the Waspi women. He's ever so slightly xenophobic and was babbling on about apocryphal tales of Polish families getting £500 a week in benefits blah blah. But at least we agreed that Starmer is a cop and a tory cunt!

calzino, Monday, 27 January 2020 15:31 (six years ago)

Sorry AF looking forward to that 50p coin.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 January 2020 15:58 (six years ago)

I'm look forward to throwing one at Starmer's ugly ass head if he ever shows up in my town!

can you measure the amount of sleep Branson will lose now Starmer is gunning after him in milliseconds? Not really, if anything he'll gathering up extra sleep and depositing it in the sleep bank!

calzino, Monday, 27 January 2020 16:01 (six years ago)

Sweet Jesus I clicked around on the 'Intelligence Squared' website to investigate that thing above and now I'm getting Facebook ads that "Will Self and Kate Hoey go head to head to debate on January 28"

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 16:23 (six years ago)

One for the diary that.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 27 January 2020 16:51 (six years ago)

lol @ the idea that "aesthetics" are insignificant when considering fascism have u ever heard of anything

plax (ico), Monday, 27 January 2020 20:18 (six years ago)

the empire of whiteness meanings that are certainly attached to plenty of fbpe discourses have never received the attention they deserve. tomorrow belongs to eu supergirl.

plax (ico), Monday, 27 January 2020 20:20 (six years ago)

Apparently this chap is an ‘economist’ and a ‘lawyer’. https://t.co/U9p1syJ7kl

— Mark Seddon (@MarkSeddon1962) January 27, 2020


talking of which!

calzino, Monday, 27 January 2020 20:21 (six years ago)

Calm yourself down son, I don't think mftkz meant anything other than "she is an annoying young woman"

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 January 2020 20:32 (six years ago)

Not seeing any coverage of this in the UK papers or the BBC:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/hamedaleaziz/british-immigrant-dies-ice-custody

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 January 2020 20:34 (six years ago)

ICE officials have long said that the agency is dedicated to providing timely and comprehensive medical care to immigrants in its custody, noting that they have access to a daily sick call and 24-hour emergency care.

yes, I absolutely unreservedly believe that statement 100%

calzino, Monday, 27 January 2020 20:39 (six years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/27/keir-starmer-accuses-of-boris-johnson-of-doing-a-runner-on-huawei

Does Starmer, or Labour in general, have a position on this? It's not particularly useful to (correctly) identify Johnson's absentee landlordism if you can't articulate why, or if, it matters.

― ShariVari, Monday, 27 January 2020 13:54 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

For those looking to define what a left-wing patriotism looks like this seems like an easy way to do it - by asserting a specifically British right to privacy from transnational snooping, whether it comes from China or Menlo Park

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 January 2020 22:32 (six years ago)

Or GCHQ tbf!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 January 2020 22:33 (six years ago)

Unless that's racist? Or allowing racism in? Ultimately there's probably no good way to use the word 'patriotism'.

But there's a left-wing case to be made for democratic oversight of tech - and saying 'no' when a supplier can't confirm agreed controls for privacy or moderation

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 01:17 (six years ago)

Labour leadership contender, Keir Starmer, said Labour ignored the middle class in the last election pic.twitter.com/ICizD8gU6x

— PA Media (@PA) January 28, 2020

How does he back that up? it's just absolute bollocks. Next he'll be using that old Leslie classic about Labour needing to be the party of the rich consumer class Which magazine reader, he's not even trying not be such an obvious tory melt now! As I recall there were thousands of middle class party activists giving up their time for a manifesto that didn't have anything that wouldn't have improved their lives as well? What a prick.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 08:28 (six years ago)

nah this is fine now we just need someone to say Labour ignored the richiest richies and they'll have covered all bases

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 08:36 (six years ago)

they might as well have just invited Chris Leslie back to the party, he's probably slightly to the left of Starmer!

calzino, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 08:40 (six years ago)

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chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 09:50 (six years ago)

My guess is he's talking about a kind of aspirational working-to-middle class voter group in the Midlands in particular who voted against Labour in their droves. This might be a natural Tory group at this stage but otherwise its a classic swing voter group.

The 2015 leadership campaigns focused heavily on this group to the exclusion of pretty much everything else and look what happened. Pretty sure that the metropolitan middle class isn't what's being talked about here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 09:51 (six years ago)

"aspirational working-to-middle class voter group"

rather than saying we need to appeal to this swing group, the conservation should be more about asking if such a group will even exist within a decade of toryism or more of the same packaged differently.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 09:57 (six years ago)

Isn't it proven that even aspirational working class people still think of themselves as working class and have no desire to be thought of as middle class and called middle class?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 09:59 (six years ago)

idk how those people can be won back other than through losing confidence in the Tories to maintain the economy on a relatively even keel. 'Swing voter' seems instinctively correct but i struggle to think of much in the way of policy that is likely to get them into Labour's corner.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 10:00 (six years ago)

I might be thinking of polls or surveys done years ago but I thought the majority of people in the country still call themsleves working class?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 10:00 (six years ago)

lots of quite well off culturally working class, fiscally middle class people probably don't even have a bookshelf in the house!

calzino, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 10:01 (six years ago)


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