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I hate personality and leadership I'm sorry I am a naive child

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:28 (six years ago)

no correction they are good things for football managers to have

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:29 (six years ago)

re: campaign videos i think alexandria ocasio cortez kind of ruined it for everyone

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:31 (six years ago)

The RLB video is neither good nor bad. What so good/bad about it?

anvil, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:33 (six years ago)

i don't think she has the same relish for soundbites and self-aggrandising bullshit as some pols do like Starmer "I have a track record of leading a large organisation (and sending paupers down over a few hours cash-in-hand work and being a frontman for the human rights abusing Night Courts!)and I'm the fucking shit"

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:38 (six years ago)

I think she comes across much better at the hustings than these videos.

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:39 (six years ago)

at the hustings ppl will become more aware that Nandy is a confused racist and Starmer is a bit of a Maybot in the making

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:40 (six years ago)

it just feels like what anyone would say. the emphasis on green new deal is good but i feel like i've heard "green jobs" for like 10 years from various politicians, some of whom even get elected, and it just feels like..... something that sounds good to say, rather than anything tangible? (not judging rlb herself here - just this video!)

at root i'm probably just reacting to that music

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:41 (six years ago)

I think it just the usual stock imagery of some fule dangling off a turbine !

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:44 (six years ago)

we haz a great new green job for you. whoops a slightly redder job now

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:45 (six years ago)

re: campaign videos i think alexandria ocasio cortez kind of ruined it for everyone

Not sure many people outside the US have ever seen an AOC campaign video tbh.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:48 (six years ago)

By “everyone” i of course mean “me”

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:03 (six years ago)

And by "not many people" I of course mean "me".

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:05 (six years ago)

I think she sounds fine (I don't get this idea that she's overly dull, I mean she's no Nate Dogg but its just a person speaking). Not really saying anything but its kinda tough to give it the big fu mate when you've just been battered by the pensioner class and their little voting pens

anvil, Friday, 24 January 2020 20:12 (six years ago)

she should have done a video like Starmer where he revealed his radical past: he was the uncredited lyric writer who wrote r wyatt's Shipbuilding for him and during the miner's strike he once clawed out a copper's eyeball and ate it like it was a juicy lychee. And in the 70's he was thrown out of the UK communist party for for trying to raise up armed worker brigades!

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 20:36 (six years ago)

sorry i've literally been sniffing glue (trying to fix a bin lid) and it seemed funny until I pressed post!

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 20:38 (six years ago)

I enjoyed it, you forgot his key role in the Angry Brigade tho

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:41 (six years ago)

he was Angry Brigade- Codename: Bomb Stormer!

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 20:43 (six years ago)

We should start a melt provocateur cell called The Tetchy Brigade

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:44 (six years ago)

RLB seems to be racking up the CLPs today.

ShariVari, Friday, 24 January 2020 21:12 (six years ago)

yeah about 6 in the last few hours innit?

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 21:16 (six years ago)

Don’t think she’ll need the CLPs with one more affiliate

steer karma (gyac), Friday, 24 January 2020 21:53 (six years ago)

Another one just now - Wirral South

steer karma (gyac), Friday, 24 January 2020 21:53 (six years ago)

looking a lot better than it was yesterday. I mean she obv has to make the ballot for this fucking Starmer procession!

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 22:32 (six years ago)

Kinda want it all over now and the managerial class to take back control so I can stop caring

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 January 2020 22:35 (six years ago)

it would save me a another direct debit for the next few months. But remember.. hardly anything plenty could happen in that time other than the media doing the find the most "Irish" (wi' the red rosy cheeks of a true IRA colleen f'sure) looking pics of RLB every day challenge. While all the might of Toynbee/Dunty/Cohen/Graun/Stoya all fighting to chod on Starmer's dick like a nest of baby pterodactyls on a feeding frenzy.

calzino, Friday, 24 January 2020 22:52 (six years ago)

I shall have such lovely dreams tonight

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 January 2020 22:55 (six years ago)

the heading of that hilarious Freedland piece: "Without the BBC we could be facing a post-truth dystopia" is probably a bit too on the nose for The Onion. Just over a month passed since the election and already there is a collective amnesia amongst the media classes on the BBC's shitting all over Purdah and putting out outright lies that were reported completed unchecked as news on the Mail and Graun sites.

calzino, Saturday, 25 January 2020 09:24 (six years ago)

completely unchecked/ uncorroborated I meant to say...

calzino, Saturday, 25 January 2020 09:24 (six years ago)

Freedland is on quite a tear this week:

https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/when-corbyn-insulted-me-what-did-he-mean-1.495769?fbclid=IwAR3jlr67JPnPJYSvxvUec3nI5Dg3wF-9pQSVkqFKZsXMTnd-hSr6rUgzovo

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 25 January 2020 09:29 (six years ago)

Part of it was a vague journalistic scruple that no matter how interesting we might find ourselves, we journalists are never the story.

Say what?

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 January 2020 09:38 (six years ago)

One last thing: it was curiously out of character. Corbyn rarely attacks anyone in acid language. He barely took aim at Theresa May or Boris Johnson, and certainly not in personal terms. But he took aim at me that day.

Corbyn attacked his Guardian piece it wasn't an "acid" ad hom attack on him, but that is Freedland for you - he steals a living talking utter shite.

calzino, Saturday, 25 January 2020 09:39 (six years ago)

Some of these writers seem to have become quite emotionally invested, unaware that the goal has been achieved. To be fair this may be true of readers too but its difficult to see Corbyn Derangement Syndrome continuing to get enough clicks to justify itself beyond spring

anvil, Saturday, 25 January 2020 09:46 (six years ago)

A reallocation of council funding could redirect hundreds of millions of pounds from so-called left-behind communities in the north of England to the leafy southern shires, analysis has found, leaving many newly Conservative voting “red wall” areas facing fresh cuts to local services.

Under a review of the local authority funding formula, £320m a year could be shifted out of councils in England’s most deprived areas while Tory-controlled shire councils mainly in the south-east gain £300m.

I'm glad tbh. These fools need to suffer the consequences of voting for a Tory slogan rather than a chance to end austerity, and for the next 5 years most of them won't learn shit tbh!

calzino, Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:12 (six years ago)

No idea but my bias tells me it's Keir:

Obviously we cannot know for sure. However, instinctively it feels right. Hard to imagine there's a huge pool of people who didn't join to vote for Jeremy Corbyn but are doing so to vote for RLB. Seems likely that phalanx was maxed out in 15/16.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) January 24, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:15 (six years ago)

(xp) The Tories will still find a way to make it seem like it's local governemnt's fault and people will believe them.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:16 (six years ago)

... or immigrants' fault or people on benefits' fault.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:17 (six years ago)

It's just as important for Lab members to fight for deselection of right wing councillors who collude with this government.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:21 (six years ago)

Another 5 years of cuts heaped upon cuts might be harder for the tories to finesse and the councils might have run out of things to sell in some districts but they'll still largely get the blame rather than central govt cuts.

calzino, Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:24 (six years ago)

This is something the next Labour leader (lol) needs to be shouting loudly about.

calzino, Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:25 (six years ago)

The figure I read for new Labour meltbers joining was something like 50/60000.

calzino, Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:29 (six years ago)

luv too hate-vote

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:30 (six years ago)

They've got their own party why don't they stay the fuck out of mine?

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:36 (six years ago)

Some probably joined to do something anything I wouldn't even say they want to vote for Keir.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:46 (six years ago)

I joined the party the day after the election and am not a melt entryist

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:55 (six years ago)

Remember when Freedland libelled a PPC and got away with it completely? Great times.

steer karma (gyac), Saturday, 25 January 2020 11:12 (six years ago)

On councils this is basically my thinking:

Yep. Of course, the other problem Labour have is that far too many of their councils absolutely refuse to be militant, and often end up willingly accepting the blame by being so fucking incompetent. https://t.co/p9QoMPnlZk

— Labour Towns Source (@judeinlondon2) January 25, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2020 11:13 (six years ago)

you can only assume the voting intentions of new members until those wizards at YouGov confirm they are 94.7% damnatorum meltus!

calzino, Saturday, 25 January 2020 11:14 (six years ago)

What does it mean for councils to be militant in this context? Serious question.

Also how can it be done constructively in the way that actually benefits people in the face of a government that will happily heap all the blame on them before taking an axe to them. I'm not especially familiar with either Islington North or Preston, the two that Jude mentions.

Matt DC, Saturday, 25 January 2020 12:00 (six years ago)

Basically 90% Labour councillors here, and most nominally on the left, but the ingrained institutional misremembering of Militant leaves them shit scared to try anything big beyond ‘invest to earn’ projects that don’t create much in the way of returns

— Grim Royle (@harvey_bone) January 25, 2020

This is one of the replies. And I certainly don't have the answers but there is an unexplored militancy. If we don't tap into it the Tories will always own the narrative.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2020 12:05 (six years ago)


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