Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

sorry, that's from 1/7, so likely linked before

I want to point out that right now Morbius and I actually kind of agree on the direction US foreign policy needs to go.

Or at least we’ve met in the middle, not necessarily agreed.

Good hate read

A few hours after Cory Booker dropped out last week, Pete Buttigieg called his top Iowa endorsers. For some of them, it was a "gut punch" amid a "grieving period." A look at how personal & raw this race has been and will be for losing camps in two weeks: https://t.co/5kbZtrs8rC

— Ruby Cramer (@rubycramer) January 23, 2020

A grieving period? The dude is still totally alive, sheesh.

And by the time he dropped out it was clear he wasn't going to even come close to winning.

it is clearly callous to call up people that fast when they have a personal connection to their candidate, but also, imagine getting/being that emotional about Cory Booker

Cory Booker >>>>>>>> Buttigieg >>>>>>> Klobuchar

I'd go Klobs > Buttigieg for comedic value alone

Just down the street, there's a little old lady whose snowy lawn recently began to feature a funeral stand bearing an 8" x 10" Buttigieg photo cut into the shape of a heart, ringed by vinyl roses. it looks like a memorial, and I don't hate it. But also, I don't understand it.

tbrr it looks like she's commemorating the life + times of an anthropomorphized ferret

lol

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/us/politics/kamala-harris-joe-biden-endorsement.html

cool!

what's not "cool" is Jonathan Martin's disgraceful comb-over.

Alfred you need to live in Jersey for a decade to apprec Booker's place in the insect world

yes yes I know his background but he said all the right things using a disgraceful timbre

I think “how do you pronounce t-i-m-b-r-e” should be a debate question

I do not think they would fall for it

Has bruenig actually written anything for the Times yet? It figures that the one socialist who gets to write opinion pieces for the papers of record would be a pro-life weirdo

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:56 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Here's what appears to be her first column:

"Bernie Will Have to Fight Dirty"

I just noticed that she's described as a "staff editor in Opinion," so it doesn't sound like she's been added to the Op-Ed stable.

Get Dirty, Bernie

liz bruenig otm in this instance

bernie pls oil up and wrestle me in the marketplace of ideas

biden tryna muscle in on klobuchar's staffer-abuse action

The Biden campaign pushed its Iowa staffers to drive in hazardous conditions, telling them: “If it feels like unsafe driving conditions, then talk to me separately but frankly I don’t want to hear any complaints because you know how important this is”https://t.co/PM490sj60b pic.twitter.com/B86HpbQY0m

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) January 24, 2020

"adaptable, flexible" -- the jargon of business.

guys if you don't put your life on the line for joe you're not gonna get a job once he's he nominee! c'mon get behind the wheel!

joesus take the wheel

don't give me this "black ice" malarkey

my understanding is that all the roads in iowa are flat and straight; how dangerous can it be

to be followed by scraping joesus off the wheel

if you skid off the road, there's at least a chance you wind up in the field of dreams.

I was kind of hoping The Biden campaign pushed its Iowa staffers would end with "down the stairs" in order to really be in the same genre as Klobuchar-style abuse

There's nothing in the middle of the road but a yellow stripe and dead armadillos Biden volunteers

It's not real dedication until someone has eaten a salad with a comb iirc

As we were saying:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPBJxIYWkAAB8Qy?format=jpg

lol @ Yang Gang voters

holy shit at the yang gang, ride or fuckin die

well a bunch of them are libertarians or former alt-right it seems so not surprising?

Yang folks got real LaRouche energy

source: http://emersonpolling.com/2020/01/24/national-2020-biden-and-sanders-battle-in-two-way-race-for-democratic-nomination/

emerson is a well-respected pollster (A- rating from 538)

but these results seem weird to me. Zero of the warren or pete supporters said "No", while significant portions of the others (biden, sanders, bloomberg, and esp yang) did?

flat and straight; how dangerous can it be

hahaha now cover the road with sheer ice

you're only talking about 63 people or so who supported warren in the poll (13% out of n=497), but still, that's odd
xp

I don't find it all that surprising. Maybe it's notable that ZERO of the Warren and Buttigieg supporters said no, but I also see them as the supporters who would be least likely to. They are generally liberals who strongly identify with the Democratic Party. The other candidates draw varying degrees of support from people who have traditionally been outside the party, whether it's leftist Sanders fans, disaffected moderate Republicans who support Biden and Bloomberg, or Redditor libertarians in the Yang Gang.

Yeah, I can definitely understand that - it’s just the _zero_ that seems weird. But hey, sometimes distributions are weird, I get that

That graph does reinforce my gut feeling that Warren (and Buttigieg, sadly) exist at the point where "passion" intersects with "pragmatism"

yeah, that is how I have been feeling ^^^.

Not sure where the passion lies with Buttigieg.

However Venn intersection of passion and pragmatism does describe my support for Warren. One of two still running willing to do enough about the climate and oligarchy crises, but without the mountain of opposition research that will fall on Sanders in the Fall.

^ will would

without the mountain of opposition research that will fall on Sanders in the Fall.

citation needed

(imo the one who's been in the public eye the longest, is least likely to have palled around with/collaborated with conservative ghouls, and already ran pretty prominently for the same job probably has the least remaining oppo)

Simon: Kurt Eichenwald from 11/14/2016\

I have a low opinion of the still undecided low-info voter. Many who are in comfortable economic states are looking for excuses to vote for Trump again. And the GOP is ready to face Sanders. Probably why they are pushing party raids for Sanders of late.