Things you were shockingly old when you learned

marlon brando wasn't italian american

I learned just today that "Krazy Kat" creator George Herriman was of mixed-race Creole parentage and nearly always wore a hat to hide his hair and pass.

Knew the first part, not the second (about the hat).

washing dishes in hot water seems very old school.

??!

...are you thinking of clothes?

washing dishes in hot water seems very old school.

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wot?

marlon brando wasn't italian american

German! -ish! The family name was originally Brandau.

... as I discovered some time last year.

I use cold/or however the water comes out of the faucet water 90% of the time at home. But we also don't eat meat at home so there are never super greasey dishes? Other stuff gets soaked if it's baked on. Glassware with dry spots from air drying after a wash get steamed and wiped over a kettle if we are having guests. We have a dishwasher but I prefer handwashing dishes so they don't pile up.

I also go to bed and outside with wet hair.

I'm pescatarian and seldom cook fish at home but i find that oily things - oily from oils, butter etc. - need to be washed in hot water, as does anything that is sticking to a pan

Brando also said he came from "a long line of Irish drunks" (mother's side i presume)

if something needs to be soaked i will run hot water into it but i think our hot water heater is programmed for only on 1-2 hours during the day? and I usually wash things immediately after use. I don't think I have ever done a whole meal of dishes in hot water in my life.

as well as heat breaking down oils and fats and whatnot, dish soap works better in warm or hot water than in cold

xp So the revelation for you was that other people use hot water?

nm I missed the whole dishwasher convo upthread

yeah. I never knew the majority of people use hot water to wash dishes. I have never had a problem with getting dishes clean at home.

It was news to me when my partner told me that hot water was unnecessary and wasteful for washing dishes. I only use it when my hands are too cold otherwise.

yeah, my old school comment is thinking about people with dishgloves over a sink of steaming water. I guess this still happens.

the dish gloves are to protect your soft, feminine hands from the harsh drying effects of dish detergent iirc

"HOT AS YOU CAN STAND IT!" my mom used to say when I washed the dishes

i always assumed the hot water was to kill germs, but according to google you'd have to make the water so hot it'd scald your hands.

Yr partner is kinda wrong? Hot water is much more chemically efficient for washing dishes. Heat melts fats, enhances detergent penetration, and causes pans to expand and shed stuck-on bits. Everything is more soluable at high temperatures, except for gasses. Also, hotter pans dry faster (this was a recent discovery for me), which is overall more sanitary.

THere's a real Northwest passage. I thought it was always a myth. Maybe it's just because it took so long to find it and took a loto flives doing so.
Fintan O'Toole talks about one of the ships looking for HMS Terror in the mid 19th century finding it. So unless it slipped my mind taht I had heard of it at some previous point that's like last week that I had it confirmed.
I thought it had been dismissed as folly and most of what was supposed to be it would be permanently ice locked or something.

Well there’s less ice now innit

roald amundsen's ship gjoa was the first actually fully to navigate it, in 1906

it's true that the search for franklin did also reveal where it likely lay, bcz the charting during the search was so extensive -- but the franklin expedition had also in effect charted it, even if they did some of it on foot and the direct documentation is lost. the franklin ships were frozen in bcz they were unlucky and got caught in a hard winter (or actually a sequence of two or three hard winters) which kept them in place until their food began to run low. it's still not clear why -- when the ice later broke up and the ships were remanned a year or two later -- why the franklin ships didn't then carry on and complete the passage, they certainly reached waters which should have allowed them to. possibly lack of manpower, possibly confusion over the best direction to take.

with global warming it's not even close to seasonally ice-locked now i don't think.

Yes: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/88597/a-nearly-ice-free-northwest-passage

Another route has been opened up by melting ice too:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/28/melting-arctic-ice-opens-new-route-from-europe-to-east-asia?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

see, global warming is good!

when a door closes a window opens

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mag/2007/04/cover/840.jpg?1432054365

lol Gregg EAsterbrook still gets paid to write?

OMG, I knew that arithmomania was a legendary affliction of vampires (although the term itself is brand spanking new to me) but I only just this minute put two and two together (ah ah ah): Sesame Street's The Count Loves To Count Because Of This Real-Life Vampire Legend

According to widely believed anecdata it was Kevin Fucking Costner who suggested that Whitney Houston should cover "I Will Always Love You" for that stupid movie

he both suggested she cover it and it was his idea for it to begin a capella

costner = music genius

i like him a lot more since seeing him being adored by all on graham norton and his being v odd and uncomfortable but clearly pleased with this and striking me as quite likely a high functioning whatever type as opposed to the archbollix reported all these decades

nb no evidence but its enough for me

That the entire argument of whether it's champing or chomping at the bit is rendered moot by the fact that bits are designed to be unchampable/unchompable (resting, as they do, in a space between the teeth).

Yes, I'm reading a book about horses, and yes, I'm a twelve-year-old girl. Get over it.

that book about horses in full:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51PXvnqT3DL._SX381_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chimping

not old enough when i learned that tbrr

I was shockingly old when I learned that Old Lunch is a twelve-year-old girl who has been posting here since she was... what, two?

is there a shockingly young thread

I'm posting in utero rn

Mom has really good wifi

lmao at cold-water dishwashing. some of you have clearly never worked in a kitchen!

The steam is fierce in a restaurant dish area

I was shockingly young when I learned that checkered slacks are most comfortably worn with the waistband pulled to somewhere around the sternum. Also, early bird dinner specials are both a great value and a wonderful opportunity to visit with Walter and Gladys.

Ok, one could rinse mildly soiled dishes or nonstick pans in cold water but for serious stuff, yeah, hot (source: have worked in a kitchen, washing dishes)

Everyone should experience a stretch of time working in a kitchen, washing dishes. Even if you're currently ensconced in some tenured academic position, I would urge you to take a brief sabbatical (3-6 months) to go work in a kitchen, washing dishes. You will learn a lot about the world, and also yourself. And also about the particulars of water temperature as it relates to the proper cleansing of flatware.

Also you can relieve yourself while washing the dishes and nobody will notice

Define 'relieve'.