Impeach Trump Y/N

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a pettifogger!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link

why would any value be assigned to Carl Bernstein in 2020?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:08 (four years ago) link

Roberts now needs to recuse himself from the upcoming Supreme Court states rights case arguing the legality of pettifogging in Florida. Good job, John.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link

Roberts looks like suddenly aged 135 years in the last 24 hours.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:43 (four years ago) link

If only Scorsese had his technology

Rhoda from Steubenville (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

i had this terrible sinking feeling, as i watched the proceedings last night at midnight (central time): "i'm going to end up listening to almost all of this, aren't i?"

on the plus side i've been doing some painting recently and impeachment proceedings make for very nice listening imo

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link

In 1987 I had a job removing rotting insulation from an old house; it was the summer of Iran-Contra.

To this day if I chance to listen to political-procedural news, I associate it with the smell of fiberglass and mold.

Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

I missed it but did they vote on witnesses yet? Did Collins vote for if so? I’m assuming not since I’ve seen nothing

akm, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

I want to watch, and tried, but don't have the stomach for it

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link

No witnesses until they get through the main part of the trial, at which point they'll vote on it again. All votes for witnesses so far have failed.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

What would even be the point of calling witnesses in the trial of someone who is innocent and has nothing to hide? Surely those witnesses would rather be fishing or reading a good book, why bother them and waste everyone's time with a bunch of repetitive exonerating testimony.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell thanked Chief Justice Roberts for his “patience” as the first day of the trial stretched past 12 hours. “It comes with the job,” Roberts responded. There was some applause for the chief justice in the chamber.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT

from what i witnessed yesterday, roberts' duties as the presiding justice in this case are 1) be the timekeeper. periodically announce how much time each side has remaining.

that's it.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link

oh yeah, i forgot, 2) lend the facade of dignity and formality to the complete bullshit taking place directly in front of him

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

3) to go to sleep and never wake up, while Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Thomas simultaneously do the same

Rhoda from Steubenville (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

He did get snippy late last night!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link

Someone undercook his Moons over my Hammy?

Rhoda from Steubenville (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

what a fucking prick, all of them

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

Not a way to talk about Denny's employees

Rhoda from Steubenville (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

Trump said he would prefer to have Bolton and others testify but then added, “The problem with John is that it’s a national security problem. ... He knows some of my thoughts. He knows what I think about leaders. What happens if he reveals what I think about a certain leader and it’s not very positive and I have to deal on behalf of the country?”

damn imagine if some leaders knew what he thought about them

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:02 (four years ago) link

And vice versa.

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

I'm sure every world leader just assumes that Trump either has talked shit about them or has no idea they exist.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

peach rump

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

i heard the clip of the sarge-at-arms goin "hear ye hear ye" yesterday and man, he sounded like he was on Zoloft.

Cokie Roberts woulda been scandalized.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

what a fucking prick, all of them

― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, January 22, 2020

new board description imo

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link

He did get snippy late last night!

that word always makes me think of the story where Dubya fumes on the phone when Gore withdraws his concession on Election Night 2000, and Gore said "You don't have to get snippy about it."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:02 (four years ago) link

i have to say, i am enjoying this part here - the 3 days straight of the house managers presenting the case without being interrupted. especially with the senators being forced to attend, with no phones or talking out loud. don't get me wrong, i understand that it won't affect the republicans' votes. but this is almost certainly the first time that any of them have been forced to sit and listen to exactly how fucking wrong they all are, at length, indisputably, since they were children (if that).

if nothing else, when future generations rightly wonder how in the fuck this all happened and why a whole party could unanimously side with a corrupt villain rather than bear the indignity of having to retire or getting voted out of office, we can always remember this glorious moment of republicans being forced to stfu and listen for 3 days straight, and that the correct decision was abundantly clear, not obfuscated whatsoever

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link

that is pretty much the only value unless any citizens who are hearing/watching wake up

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:37 (four years ago) link

Schiff was terrific yesterday, and even Nadler looked for once out for blood

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link

nah, there's more value than that. even if/when the impeachment vote fails, it's still important to at least try to hold corrupt people accountable. when we stop doing that, even, we forfeit our right to complain (a right i very much intend to hold onto). also, it would be very hard to explain to people in the future why he wasn't impeached. "but we knew republicans wouldn't vote to impeach him! so it wasn't worth trying!!" would not be a winner. much better to do the right thing, let the republicans do the wrong thing, and make as many people as possible understand that in November and beyond.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link

^otm

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link

and Den senatorial candidates can use excerpts in campaign ads

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link

perhaps. i may have a lower opinion of its effect on the Unwashed.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

In an incredible exchange at Davos, @realdonaldtrump admits he is comfortable with the status of the impeachment trial because the White House is withholding evidence. "Honestly, we have all the material. They don't have the material." As always, he says the quiet part out loud. pic.twitter.com/Gk3h1QZyAi

— Justin Hendrix (@justinhendrix) January 22, 2020

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

Schiff is presenting such a complex, yet coherent, timeline (to me) of all of the behind the scenes emails and conversations that it’s hard to imagine anyone not following the trail or agreeing with it. But you still have his base focused solely on that one ‘perfect’ phone call.

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:40 (four years ago) link

And the fact that it’s Shifty Schiff.

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link

Schiff has been amazing in his ability to speak with logic at length on all of this. I'm really impressed

Dan S, Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:45 (four years ago) link

Pierce agrees:

Schiff led off the House managers’ 24 hours of presenting their case, and he came up with a bravura two-hour recitation of the facts that connected one dot to another. Schiff has a remarkable facility to organize and present a chain of events logically and with perfect clarity. He mixed in video clips drawn from various sources during the past eight months. He had particular fun with White House Chief-of-Staff Mick Mulvaney’s blundering press conference in which Mulvaney pretty much admitted that the Ukraine aid was indeed a quid pro quo, and in which Mulvaney argued that this kind of thing happened all the time, advising the rest of the country to "get over it."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link

Every time Trump or some toady repeats ‘read the transcript’ I want to scream. It’s a chain of events, not one fucking phone call.

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link

Meanwhile, over at Fox News, “Restless lawmakers struggle to sit through Schiff’s opening argument.”

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link

the republicans are heroes, for having to sit through it! sit with strength, gentleman! sit with righteous contempt!!!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:25 (four years ago) link

^^ favorite Bowie lyric

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:30 (four years ago) link

just for one day!

Dan S, Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:32 (four years ago) link

Karl speaks wisdom as always.

Don't spin the witness thing as "oh darn we wanted witnesses, too bad we were outvoted." Spin it as "what is the administration afraid of?"

Don't spin the inevitable party-line vote as "oh well, at least we tried." Spin it as "Republicans never even pretended to take this seriously, let's punish them in November."

Underscore that every procedural blocking tactic that McConnell uses adds more evidence for the "obstruction" charge. Ensuring a complicit and compliant gop Senate caucus was and is a part of the obstruction tactic.

When any right-winger says anything about a lack of evidence, point out BOTH how much evidence already exists AND that there would be a lot more if not for the WH stonewalling - what are they trying to hide, anyways? If everything was perfect then why won't the WH provide the documents and witnesses that would corroborate that narrative?

Etc

Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:33 (four years ago) link

once the Grifter is sent back to Florida, Schiff can resume his previous identity as Mr Military Boondoggle Voter.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:39 (four years ago) link

Futility is the first refuge of straight white guys, I always say.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:40 (four years ago) link

apparently someone tweeted 150x on his flight back from Davos

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:46 (four years ago) link

I heard @realDonaldTrump would like to attend the impeachment trial. Mr. President, would love to have you as my guest during this partisan charade. pic.twitter.com/GhTZ9Ez4U4

— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) January 22, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:58 (four years ago) link

i bet that ticket comes with a promise ring

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 January 2020 06:29 (four years ago) link

uh Judge Napolitano otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:20 (four years ago) link

Foregone conclusion or not, I've seen a couple of congress people on twitter, Chris Murphy in the Senate and Justin Amash of the House, strongly imply that several Senators may have never seen or heard much of the evidence or testimony being presented before. I don't know how that's possible unless they've been ignoring the news for months, for plausible deniability, but regardless, folks like Schiff could potentially be making an impact.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link


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