Lads, it's the Premier League thread - EPL 2019/20

Feeling like I've heard this 'everyone else is worse than they were last season' excuse before.

im saying the opposite tbh

Yes, and you are otm.

Might be going out on a limb here, bit imo this Liverpool team are quite good.

Wile E. Coyote finally gonna catch kill and eat that roadrunner

Come now, city, chelsea, spurs and arsenal are all clearly worse than last season and the last two weren't much good then!

The bottom clubs seem much better this time around tbh

Norwich being the standout relegation fodder, and they're playing some decent stuff

yeah im referring to the overall standard of the league

agreed that the other five of the 'big six' as was are all in varying states of decay but the run of dross that couldve usually been expected from say 12th down, and in some years 8th down, hasnt really materialised this season (obv the two things are linked)

You could make a fairly decent case for this Liverpool team being the best club side in the world at the moment, in the top two or three at the very least.

Probably not the best squad, maybe not the best individual players, but the best organised and most effective team? They're up there.

They've been immensely lucky with injuries though, Matip notwithstanding.

A decent case? I assume it's absolutely the case tbh

The real quiz is whether City are second

Alison has missed a quarter of the season and their best midfielder has been out for a couple of months.

Their fortune comes more from not having suffered injuries in the positions they don' t have any back up ie full back, where James Milner is the only adult alternative.

I'm not sure who would challenge them for that title - though, again, you could make the argument that says as much about the failings of Europe's elite clubs as the strengths of Liverpool.

"Liverpool won the Premiership - but joke's on them, the Premiership isn't worth what it was!"

I'd "snap your hand off"

I'm not interested in your meaningless facts lads

its the least interesting title ever won tho

even the battle for fourth is utter shit

The battle for 8th is shaping up nicley.

xp speak for yourself

Well Wolves are about to deal Pool their first loss u heard it here first

Well technically my bookie did

Liverpool are going to be hammered by someone soon, wolves as good a bet as anyone else.

Jota and Boly technically available for selection tomorrow tho i'd be surprised if either start or if Willy's on the bench tbh

hope you got good odds tho Nee

Best not to rush Willy back so i hope they err on caution

yeah there's no need to rush it.

i fancy us to have a chance against anybody in the league and 4th certainly isn't beyond us but this is well beyond start of season expectations

Leicester will be mid table by the end of the season so 3rd and 4th still up for grabs.

no my podcast said brenadn rogers is a good manager now

ideally id never see dele carelessly flick the ball away out of our possession in a spurs shirt again

whether that's down to his being sold tomorrow or because he learns not to do it, im either way at this stage

nope still think it tbh

another epl gameweek another cunt ref out there sponsoring assault on spurs players

wow thats an incredibly stupid effort of a tackle to make in the box, this must be spurs

classic BBC, Spurs win puts them on 34 points "level with Man United" - anybody else? no? ah go fuck yerselves

Lol Utd

and yet he still won't get sacked after this

ah what difference would it make anyway

when the spine of the team is Jones-Matic-Pereira-Martial what does anyone expect?

I mean it's not great but it's enough to comfortably beat Burnley at home

the fact is we have the worst manager in the league and he's as much to blame as anyone for our shocking squad management

Sanchez, Lukaku, Herrera, Fellaini all sold/loaned and the only attacking player we get in is a kid from the Championship while spending £80m on a CB who looks no better (being generous) than Chris Smalling

Even with the underwhelming players we have, the complete absence of any attacking patterns, defensive solidity or evidence of any coaching whatsoever is completely on Ole and the other gormless twats on the bench

I always get the sense, when the camera pans to the Utd bench, that Ole, Phelan et al look like they've sneaked in off the street and been caught trespassing.

they are an 80s caper of a management outfit, its a joke tbh

The Glazers have sure cratered a legacy!

have we any theories (forget if we had) as to why poch isnt already in at utd?

levy clause in still-operational contract?

glazers happy with a yes-man regardless of on-pitch matters?

actual belief somewhere that he is a football manager?

poch wants a break?

The Glazers only really care about on-pitch matters to the extent that they affect the financial side of things, which arguably isn't the case yet (but would increasingly become so, assuming United can't finish in the top four). Woodward's priority is to keep himself in a job so he has a vested interest in not having to say 'woops - I fucked up the choice of manager again! - sorry about that'. Moyes was kept on until it was mathematically impossible to qualify for the CL, even though he was a dead man walking for at least a couple of months before that. Van Gaal was kept on for at least six months longer than anybody wanted him. Mourinho looked like he expected to be sacked at the end of the early season home defeat against Spurs, but still lingered on for three or four months (and was probably only eventually booted out because it was becoming toxic to keep him). I could be wrong, but I think it's likely that OGS won't be sacked during the transfer window and might survive until the end of the season (though I'd be surprised if he lasts any longer than that).

otm, and despite the nasty paying fans singing mean things about Woodward and upsetting a couple of pundits Ole seems to function as a reasonable shield for him at the moment, why risk more turmoil?

oh hang on, Tevez to save the day

cheers thats kinda what i thought alright

eesh

It must be getting to the point where managers won't want the job. Given the state of things, why would Poch choose (if he is - and it's arguable? - in a position to choose) Utd over say, Bayern or even Dortmund?

very few managers get a crack at a job like that that dont already exhibit significant levels of delusion over their personal powers.

sometimes it even works for a time