Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

An excellent column.

xp just wait for 2028 when she unseats President Rand Paul But More Racist

That's a rude way to describe Klobuchar.

haaaaa

As my old pal Steve Rendall asked, what's David Brock up to?

"it was more likely somebody else either with an axe to grind or who'd benefit from the resulting fracas" https://t.co/VT1eSDzKBc

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) January 17, 2020

i like pete's new campaign schwag

We're in Concord, New Hampshire at @PeteButtigieg's Town Hall with one message

The world is on fire. #KeepItInTheGround #MayorPete pic.twitter.com/kASGzBRV5T

— CPD Action (@CPDAction) January 17, 2020

that B Cooper piece was great and the older piece that was linked
"As pioneering socialist feminist Zillah Eisenstein argued recently, “my query for 2020 is whether voting for a white man … when there is a field of women who are as gifted as most of the men, and with Elizabeth Warren who has a formidable progressive agenda and is more gifted than most of the men, is not misogynist? Maybe a vote for Bernie once again normalizes and endorses male rule / leadership / presidencies even if he is a socialist.”

I’ve never seen the American Psycho like this.

pic.twitter.com/Go6buLNnK7

— Tania Singh (@TwinklingTania) January 17, 2020

I just really, really need everyone to appreciate the beauty in the delivery of "You worked for a company that was fixing bread prices"

Amazing

one’s race or gender ceases to matter

this is the argument cooper frames herself as addressing, but i don't know who she thinks is really making it. everyone i pay attention to thinks these matter. it seems like there's a step before that in the argument, 'IF you x y z, THEN your position is that gender can't matter', which i doubt would be conceded.

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I think it's a valid to ask that voters think about the ramifications of their choices. Each voter is going to weight different issues and facts by their own lights. While the fact that Bernie is a white man is certainly germane to the issue of how to push for social justice, I don't think there is any simple formula every voter should apply when considering this question.

ofc, I'd like it if millions of voters agreed with my own ideas and I got to see them accurately reflected in the halls of power, but that isn't an outcome I'm used to and I'm certainly not going to demand that other progressive voters answer such questions the same way I do. I'm just thrilled when a national election even approaches these issues seriously.

bump 4 killfiled fule

ideas and events change people's minds, but it's still coalitions that win elections

Huh.

THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN of Sen. Bernie Sanders has researched the question of whether the same person can serve as both vice president and treasury secretary, according to three sources on the campaign. The person the Sanders campaign had in mind with the inquiry was Sen. Elizabeth Warren, his rival for the nomination and the bane of Wall Street over the last decade.

https://theintercept.com/2020/01/17/sanders-warren-vice-president-treasury-secretary/

Making the VP also a cabinet executive would be a great way to give them a real job tbh, I don’t see anything wrong w that.

agreed

fuck yeah, both to the general principle and especially to this role for Warren

That's an interesting wrinkle, so all this drama has just been a gane to keep attention off Biden?

so is The Intercept giving Warren some credit

That's completely unsurprising as a potential move, aside from maybe we should have a VP who can't draw Social Security (and a GOP governor gets to appoint Warren's replacement, right?).

I mean ideally we'd have a President and VP who can't but lol

Unfortunate that there's no way to do a Thatcher/milk snatcher with Buttigieg and bread. If only it had been an egg price-fixing scandal.

Would sweeping New England give them enough of an electoral college advantage?

Get to speculating yourself https://www.270towin.com

i for one enjoyed pete being cool with "on the front lines of corporate downsizing." a rare moment of unintentional honesty.

the quad city times has endorsed boss of the year amy klobuchar. in 2016 they endorsed sanders

In one town hall, “Bennet swung his hands so wildly while making a point that he hit a woman in the head, he tripped over a stool holding his water, and he nearly tangled himself in a microphone cord while trying to take off his sport coat.” https://t.co/DMkJH7KStX

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) January 19, 2020

Chevy Chase comeback material

the quad city times has endorsed boss of the year amy klobuchar. in 2016 they endorsed sanders

very odd, would have assumed quad city would stick with the candidate with the plan for more high-speed rail.

the quad city editors looked at how the political landscape changed from 2016 to 2020 and thought, who is a white iowan's idea of a non-controversial candidate? bernie is a socialist, warren wants to tax $50 millionaires too much, biden and his son is embezzling laundry in eastern europe or whatever is what i heard, pete is too inexperienced. amy klobuchar has never lost an election, and her shivering bangs are electric on the debate stage, no one can doubt it.

I’ve reached acceptance about the fact that I kinda like Klobuchar. She’s very good at needling Buttigieg on the debate stage. That slight overemphasis on the word “mayor” is classic.

Come to think of it she’s probably also the ideal candidate to take on Trump in a debate. One of her eye rolls would instantly puncture his blowhard misogyny.

very odd, would have assumed quad city would stick with the candidate with the plan for more high-speed rail.

c'mon

pic.twitter.com/sECkGe21iy

— houthi rebel without a cause 🦒💬 (@jacobisanadult) January 19, 2020

She’s very good at needling Buttigieg on the debate stage. That slight overemphasis on the word “mayor” is classic.

― o. nate, Sunday, January 19, 2020

i mean, prosecutorial condescension is a trainable skill. it's what makes harris and klobuchar so much fun in hearings.

the way that klubuchar butts into every actual debate or interesting moment happening on the debate stage makes me want to rip my eyeballs out and throw them at the screen.

*brief accidental discussion emerges about campaign finance and what candidates think about relying on dark money*
"excuse me, EXCUSE ME WOLF, but i think i speak for everyone in this room and america when i say the people of the united states don't care about who is mayor pete is having wine with, they care about how i have never lost an election, they care about how i met one man in southwestern iowa this morning whose father was a coal miner, i said to him, he was the best person in the state, and his name is....uh, styson!! I told him "my grandpa worked in the mines in Ely for most of his life, i have never lost an election, i know how to do it Wolf."

https://i.imgur.com/on0UHUl.gif

yeah she's awful

Why didn't the NYT editorial board interview Michael Bennet or John Delaney? They acknowledge that James Bennet "has recused himself from any involvement in the 2020 elections" because Michael Bennet is his brother, but then they didn't bother seeking an interview? (They also mention that Bloomberg, Castro, and Gabbard were invited but declined.) It can't simply be based on polling because they interviewed Deval Patrick, whose polling is as dismal as Bennet's and Delaney's.

maybe they were worried about falling asleep on camera

The latest episode of The Weekly (with the NYT endorsement) is up on Hulu now

They acknowledge that James Bennet "has recused himself from any involvement in the 2020 elections" because Michael Bennet is his brother

I suspect he'll be free to release himself from this commitment after the conventions are over.

Well.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/01/19/opinion/amy-klobuchar-elizabeth-warren-nytimes-endorsement.html

well if there’s one thing the reporting has borne out it’s that klobuchar is willing and able to beat people

— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) January 20, 2020

great job

jeez

The endorsement: "The senator from Minnesota is the very definition of Midwestern charisma, grit and sticktoitiveness."

NYT ed board member Michelle Cottle on The Weekly: "What she is short on is charisma and inspiration."

"The senator from Minnesota is the very definition of Midwestern charisma, grit and sticktoitiveness."

this is the funniest possible outcome

for one thing one of their endorsees keeps going after the other one: http://www.startribune.com/sen-amy-klobuchar-trains-fiercest-attacks-on-front-runner-elizabeth-warren/563180472/