Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

lol

https://www.imgur.com/pjDu8tB.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOfa_8cX4AAMhYV?format=png&name=large

is that from Biden's NYT interview?

Yep.

yeah, I assume that Warren endorsement is in the bag.

This is funny, too.

MC: So now your message is more you’re running on experience, a restoration of sanity, invocations of the Obama era. How do you convince younger voters that you are the person to help move the party into the future? So that’s a bit of a nostalgia thing.

No. By the way, just so you know, my message isn’t that I’m going to return to the Obama era. My message is twofold. Number one, the next president of the United States, I think you’d all have to admit, is going to have to be able to do two things. [BIDEN’S PHONE RINGS] What the hell is that?

perfect

* holds up smart phone* What the hell is this?

https://images.c-span.org/Files/4da/000012-c.jpg/Thumbs/height.576.no_border.width.1024.jpg

Dear Senator, Where can I get some rocks?

in lieu of the latest unpopular Perrin tweet, i'll just say the Democratic party is a corporate imperial pile of shit that wants to pick their candidates for you

but it's important for them to win the WH this year

(if Biden or Booty, just to delay the inevitable i guess)

you called me Booby yesterday, and I resent the asociation

have we ever talked about how Booty's dad was a Gramsci scholar of all things?

Booby was a Hoffa-RFK ref

I have friends who were close friends of the Butt Guy's dad. I haven't talked about this election with them, though.

I don't know why I'm okay with "Booty Judge" but "the Butt Guy" is making me cringe

My closed captioning during the debates: Buddha Judge.

cuz he has right thought

Brittany Cooper on Bernie v. Warren
https://time.com/5765888/elizabeth-warren-gender-2020-election/

But a refusal to see the ways in which the arguments about Sanders’ entitlement to the presidency on the merits of his progressivism disadvantages “diverse” candidates, as such arguments routinely do, is a level of intellectual disingenuousness that I find disheartening as a radical black feminist.

Being progressive doesn’t mean that one’s race or gender ceases to matter in one’s leadership style and prerogatives, especially not in a world where gender and race are always presumed to matter for how women and people of color will govern.

PREACH

But because the analysis of gender here is ancillary, these folks never have to think about whether the first woman to win the presidency can do so as a socialist, given the ways that the concept of the “bleeding heart liberal” carries underneath it a misogynist edge about namby-pamby femme people.

I wish we could somehow run a Holodeck style simulation where AOC is the candidate so we could properly test this hypothesis.

An excellent column.

xp just wait for 2028 when she unseats President Rand Paul But More Racist

That's a rude way to describe Klobuchar.

haaaaa

As my old pal Steve Rendall asked, what's David Brock up to?

"it was more likely somebody else either with an axe to grind or who'd benefit from the resulting fracas" https://t.co/VT1eSDzKBc

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) January 17, 2020

i like pete's new campaign schwag

We're in Concord, New Hampshire at @PeteButtigieg's Town Hall with one message

The world is on fire. #KeepItInTheGround #MayorPete pic.twitter.com/kASGzBRV5T

— CPD Action (@CPDAction) January 17, 2020

that B Cooper piece was great and the older piece that was linked
"As pioneering socialist feminist Zillah Eisenstein argued recently, “my query for 2020 is whether voting for a white man … when there is a field of women who are as gifted as most of the men, and with Elizabeth Warren who has a formidable progressive agenda and is more gifted than most of the men, is not misogynist? Maybe a vote for Bernie once again normalizes and endorses male rule / leadership / presidencies even if he is a socialist.”

I’ve never seen the American Psycho like this.

pic.twitter.com/Go6buLNnK7

— Tania Singh (@TwinklingTania) January 17, 2020

I just really, really need everyone to appreciate the beauty in the delivery of "You worked for a company that was fixing bread prices"

Amazing

one’s race or gender ceases to matter

this is the argument cooper frames herself as addressing, but i don't know who she thinks is really making it. everyone i pay attention to thinks these matter. it seems like there's a step before that in the argument, 'IF you x y z, THEN your position is that gender can't matter', which i doubt would be conceded.

< / Aimless>

I think it's a valid to ask that voters think about the ramifications of their choices. Each voter is going to weight different issues and facts by their own lights. While the fact that Bernie is a white man is certainly germane to the issue of how to push for social justice, I don't think there is any simple formula every voter should apply when considering this question.

ofc, I'd like it if millions of voters agreed with my own ideas and I got to see them accurately reflected in the halls of power, but that isn't an outcome I'm used to and I'm certainly not going to demand that other progressive voters answer such questions the same way I do. I'm just thrilled when a national election even approaches these issues seriously.

bump 4 killfiled fule

ideas and events change people's minds, but it's still coalitions that win elections

Huh.

THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN of Sen. Bernie Sanders has researched the question of whether the same person can serve as both vice president and treasury secretary, according to three sources on the campaign. The person the Sanders campaign had in mind with the inquiry was Sen. Elizabeth Warren, his rival for the nomination and the bane of Wall Street over the last decade.

https://theintercept.com/2020/01/17/sanders-warren-vice-president-treasury-secretary/

Making the VP also a cabinet executive would be a great way to give them a real job tbh, I don’t see anything wrong w that.

agreed

fuck yeah, both to the general principle and especially to this role for Warren

That's an interesting wrinkle, so all this drama has just been a gane to keep attention off Biden?

so is The Intercept giving Warren some credit

That's completely unsurprising as a potential move, aside from maybe we should have a VP who can't draw Social Security (and a GOP governor gets to appoint Warren's replacement, right?).

I mean ideally we'd have a President and VP who can't but lol

Unfortunate that there's no way to do a Thatcher/milk snatcher with Buttigieg and bread. If only it had been an egg price-fixing scandal.

Would sweeping New England give them enough of an electoral college advantage?

Get to speculating yourself https://www.270towin.com

i for one enjoyed pete being cool with "on the front lines of corporate downsizing." a rare moment of unintentional honesty.

the quad city times has endorsed boss of the year amy klobuchar. in 2016 they endorsed sanders

In one town hall, “Bennet swung his hands so wildly while making a point that he hit a woman in the head, he tripped over a stool holding his water, and he nearly tangled himself in a microphone cord while trying to take off his sport coat.” https://t.co/DMkJH7KStX

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) January 19, 2020

Chevy Chase comeback material

the quad city times has endorsed boss of the year amy klobuchar. in 2016 they endorsed sanders

very odd, would have assumed quad city would stick with the candidate with the plan for more high-speed rail.

the quad city editors looked at how the political landscape changed from 2016 to 2020 and thought, who is a white iowan's idea of a non-controversial candidate? bernie is a socialist, warren wants to tax $50 millionaires too much, biden and his son is embezzling laundry in eastern europe or whatever is what i heard, pete is too inexperienced. amy klobuchar has never lost an election, and her shivering bangs are electric on the debate stage, no one can doubt it.