Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

Yes, true, many of them claim that they all march in LOCK-step while apostates among them insist that it's lock-STEP. It has atomized their movement to an extent that is tragic.

love the analogy tbqh

People are piling on Warren and deservedly so. I never thought she was a serious option, and her pathetic attempt at ratfucking proved clumsy and inept. Hopefully, she'll drop out soon, playing an earnest Renfield to Biden's dizzy Dracula.

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) January 16, 2020

the wit it sparkles, it burns my contacts

he even made a Hilary joke a week ago! Truly a remarkable wit.

Is it possible to killfile Perrin posts without killfiling Morbs in general?

take some opioids and suck it up like a real American

suck it up like a dizzy Dracula!

least favorite gimmicky early 90s board game

Is it possible to killfile Perrin posts without killfiling Morbs in general?

Probably, but it'd require some custom work.

Re katherine's post upthread: There was a good Osita Nwavenu piece yesterday about the Fox treatment of Sanders vis a vis other Democratic bogeymen:

https://newrepublic.com/article/156219/bernie-sanders-finally-got-republicans-attention

It’s well worth asking why Republicans have been demonstrably more willing to grant rhetorical charity to Sanders, a socialist who could well win the presidency and who won 13 million votes in the last primary, than to Ocasio-Cortez, a House freshman from New York City who won just over 100,000 votes in her election. Logically, Sanders would seem to pose a greater threat to America than not only her but the last Democratic president, a capitalist whom the right nevertheless spent eight years denouncing as a Marxist in disguise. At long last, an actual Marxist has arrived. Until a week or so ago, the Republican Party greeted him with a conspicuous and profound ambivalence.

There’s a simple and compelling explanation for this: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Barack Obama might not have shared the same ideological space, but they were people of color, and Sanders is not.

Hence the argument in 2016 that he could've won.

an actual Marxist lol

he even made a Hilary joke a week ago!

she's a monstrously irresistible target since she's been even more of a turd since the election

oh, for a time machine and a drone

but she is not in any way relevant to this election

residual Bernie hatred from her worshippers

Biden wins the nomination but the week before the convention his brains completely dribble out of his ears
Bah gawd is that Hillary's music I hear?!

:)

huh so I just learned that the California primary got bumped up to Super Tuesday? that will be an interesting tweak to previous models...

xp

Republicans have not run against a white man for the presidency in 16 years. It seems possible that anxieties about learning to do so again partly explain the Trump administration’s desperate efforts to gather information about Hunter Biden.

mostly I agree with this piece but this is a weird take, given the non-presidencies of John Kerry and Al Gore

lol

https://www.imgur.com/pjDu8tB.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOfa_8cX4AAMhYV?format=png&name=large

is that from Biden's NYT interview?

Yep.

yeah, I assume that Warren endorsement is in the bag.

This is funny, too.

MC: So now your message is more you’re running on experience, a restoration of sanity, invocations of the Obama era. How do you convince younger voters that you are the person to help move the party into the future? So that’s a bit of a nostalgia thing.

No. By the way, just so you know, my message isn’t that I’m going to return to the Obama era. My message is twofold. Number one, the next president of the United States, I think you’d all have to admit, is going to have to be able to do two things. [BIDEN’S PHONE RINGS] What the hell is that?

perfect

* holds up smart phone* What the hell is this?

https://images.c-span.org/Files/4da/000012-c.jpg/Thumbs/height.576.no_border.width.1024.jpg

Dear Senator, Where can I get some rocks?

in lieu of the latest unpopular Perrin tweet, i'll just say the Democratic party is a corporate imperial pile of shit that wants to pick their candidates for you

but it's important for them to win the WH this year

(if Biden or Booty, just to delay the inevitable i guess)

you called me Booby yesterday, and I resent the asociation

have we ever talked about how Booty's dad was a Gramsci scholar of all things?

Booby was a Hoffa-RFK ref

I have friends who were close friends of the Butt Guy's dad. I haven't talked about this election with them, though.

I don't know why I'm okay with "Booty Judge" but "the Butt Guy" is making me cringe

My closed captioning during the debates: Buddha Judge.

cuz he has right thought

Brittany Cooper on Bernie v. Warren
https://time.com/5765888/elizabeth-warren-gender-2020-election/

But a refusal to see the ways in which the arguments about Sanders’ entitlement to the presidency on the merits of his progressivism disadvantages “diverse” candidates, as such arguments routinely do, is a level of intellectual disingenuousness that I find disheartening as a radical black feminist.

Being progressive doesn’t mean that one’s race or gender ceases to matter in one’s leadership style and prerogatives, especially not in a world where gender and race are always presumed to matter for how women and people of color will govern.

PREACH

But because the analysis of gender here is ancillary, these folks never have to think about whether the first woman to win the presidency can do so as a socialist, given the ways that the concept of the “bleeding heart liberal” carries underneath it a misogynist edge about namby-pamby femme people.

I wish we could somehow run a Holodeck style simulation where AOC is the candidate so we could properly test this hypothesis.

An excellent column.

xp just wait for 2028 when she unseats President Rand Paul But More Racist

That's a rude way to describe Klobuchar.

haaaaa

As my old pal Steve Rendall asked, what's David Brock up to?

"it was more likely somebody else either with an axe to grind or who'd benefit from the resulting fracas" https://t.co/VT1eSDzKBc

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) January 17, 2020

i like pete's new campaign schwag

We're in Concord, New Hampshire at @PeteButtigieg's Town Hall with one message

The world is on fire. #KeepItInTheGround #MayorPete pic.twitter.com/kASGzBRV5T

— CPD Action (@CPDAction) January 17, 2020

that B Cooper piece was great and the older piece that was linked
"As pioneering socialist feminist Zillah Eisenstein argued recently, “my query for 2020 is whether voting for a white man … when there is a field of women who are as gifted as most of the men, and with Elizabeth Warren who has a formidable progressive agenda and is more gifted than most of the men, is not misogynist? Maybe a vote for Bernie once again normalizes and endorses male rule / leadership / presidencies even if he is a socialist.”

I’ve never seen the American Psycho like this.

pic.twitter.com/Go6buLNnK7

— Tania Singh (@TwinklingTania) January 17, 2020

I just really, really need everyone to appreciate the beauty in the delivery of "You worked for a company that was fixing bread prices"

Amazing

one’s race or gender ceases to matter

this is the argument cooper frames herself as addressing, but i don't know who she thinks is really making it. everyone i pay attention to thinks these matter. it seems like there's a step before that in the argument, 'IF you x y z, THEN your position is that gender can't matter', which i doubt would be conceded.

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