bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

She's positively ancient then, only 20 years younger than me!

hopefully the lame-o membership might take note and notice the difference between a genuine commitment to socialism and not just playing a game to be a fucking trojan horse.

sorry I'd managed about 30 odd hours without slagging off the great white melt... small steps first!

New @Survation /@LabourList poll for Labour’s next leader:

Rebecca Long Bailey - 42%
Keir Starmer - 37%

After 2nd prefs:

Rebecca Long Bailey 51%, Keir Starmer 49%.

Given RLB campaign v late in starting that’s hugely impressive. People not blown away by Starmer.

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) January 15, 2020

sorry to retweet this nobber but I just saw some good news!

fuck me, zarah sultana knows how to make an entrance - what a speech

I reckon she talks about socialism with a genuine belief in it, some of these fuckers in the PLP spit the word out with a forced grin on their face, but they despise everything it represents.

R. Long-Bailey: 42%
K. Starmer: 37%
J. Phillips: 9%
L. Nandy: 7%
E. Thornberry: 1%

feeling this tonight, but how was there such a surge when she hasn't even done owt?

She hasn’t declared at the time, Andrew Fisher’s take on it worth a read.

(Then again most betting at this point in 2015 put it as a two-horse race between Burnham and Cooper)

*shudders*

Came here to post about Zarah Sultana, am gratified. You feel like some hope is justified with entrants like her in the party. And then you remember how many of the PLp want to inflict Jess Phillips on us.
But the cajones of Sultana. Outloud mentioning climate fascism, and the right solution international worker solidarity to it, to the benches opposite. Brave doesn't even begin. Heroine.

yeah. show me a word of that speech that's wrong!

Labour MP Lisa Nandy says places "like Catalonia" may provide examples of how to "beat" the Scottish independence movement. So, with police brutality and by locking up elected politicians?pic.twitter.com/XzZj6fWmOV

— Steph/en Paton ❄️ (@stephenpaton134) January 15, 2020

she's pitching all over the place with her messaging but is like a fucking blue labour stick of rock inside.

just seen someone who is studying and saying she has to drop out of uni if she doesn't find a p/t job. She posted a gizza job plea with a brief list of skillsets/exp to Dawn Butler and immediately got one!

I see a lot of the trolls asking Caitlin to say which policies she likes. Guys, repeating the same question amounts to abuse. So stop. Also, in politics, certain things transcend policy. Like the ability to sort a passport for a friend via a wink and a nod. https://t.co/Qu9JFLY0VO pic.twitter.com/CRUQUAn5FN

— Dr Robert 'Rob' Zands PhD (@DrRobertZands) January 15, 2020

"funny when it helps"

Assuming it stays like that poll (lol) it depends on where the 7% for Nandy goes in second preferences and I wouldn't necessarily see it going to Starmer. I'm assuming most of the Phillips vote is going to go to anyone but RLB.

that would be correct talking about the PLP but not the membership

I mean most of the JP fans them might just lose interest!

they won't go to Starmer, because he's committed to not change the direction of the party ...oh

.. i forgot his whole shtick was "tory melt in disguise" how remiss of me!

Thornberry at 1% is...quite a sight.

it's an outrage really - she's at least 12% more charismatic than the monocled melt!

meanwhile the monocled meltineer is counting on disappointed jess phillips voters to edge it over RLB

Mfw I'm thinking about paramilitaries to stop the Scottish pic.twitter.com/KI0e6tBu0z

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) January 15, 2020

heh!

caught my first bit of the Today show for weeks (waiting for latest In Our time on Bismarck) to be treated to a Remainiac talking about Glastonbury 💩

not linking to the article because it is pure propaganda that the herald should be embarrassed to have printed, but landlords using the term "hostile environment" is a fucking riddy pic.twitter.com/synbWCnMjz

— Gordon Maloney (@gordonmaloney) January 16, 2020

using hostile environment to describe eviction delays for landlords is it?

This is s good critique of citizen's assemblies:

Climate change is not like this. What if a CA returns an answer like "it's too late to do anything substantial" or "we think the hit to the economy will be too bad, let's not" or "the reality of climate change requires us to let half of the global south die"?

— James B (@piercepenniless) January 16, 2020

Not hostile enough. (xp)

Imagine being Lisa Nandy's dad rn. What a life.

up the patriarchy :p

xp Ralph Miliband knows that pain twice over

Lisa Nandy’s dad/the ghost of Ralph Miliband as write-in leader and deputy

it would be nice to see some old unreconstructed commies embarrassing their kids for a change!

Just catching on Zarah's speech. Defending her by posting like never before, if necessary.

The civil war will go on until we have the threat of deselections.

Margaret Thatcher was famously hated for introducing the Human Rights Act & National Minimum Wage after a century of trade union campaigning. Her Sure Start programme & Tax Credits were also deeply unpopular. She also had record police levels & almost ended rough sleeping. 🤦🏻‍♂️ https://t.co/VsMqzJrJ0x

— Neil Coyle (@coyleneil) January 16, 2020

A fucking labour MP licking Thatcher's arse, I know there's plenty of crypto-tories in the party but this ain't even crypto.

Although I find Comrade Alph's current obsession with deselection distracting and parodically Jacobin-like, I'd happily throw that cunt, Coyle, out of the party and preferably into the nearest gutter.

It's not an obsession (it came up when myself and Matt have been talking on here) but I've wanted deselections for years. Big failure of Corbyn to do 'broad church'.

The Conservatives know what it's all about. All the remainers have been kicked.

I don't bang on about it every single day.

Choo fuckin’ choo, centrists. That comment from Coyle is a disgrace.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECcxXBPXkAAd4lE?format=jpg&name=large

Looks like Tom and I share the diaspora shame burden here

@tartanarse Irish, then Scottish as it goes.

— Neil Coyle (@coyleneil) December 7, 2015

Just another Plastic Paddy/Jock.

Citizen's Assemblies have the advantage of being non-party based* - the alternative from Mr Penniless appears to be beef up the Labour Party's policies and (checks notes) win a resounding victory in the December 2019 election.

*which means they are also a lifeline for any Tories that would like less of a fucked earth - with a closer parliament it might be possible to peel some support off, but an 80-strong majority means that individual defections get exponentially less likely.

They are also a lifeline for any Tories that might reasonably suspect that the response will be "fuck the global south", but if that's the case, what is there to be done?

Wait for the rich to come around so we don’t continue hustling towards extinction?

Hurtling ffs

"They are also a lifeline for any Tories that might reasonably suspect that the response will be "fuck the global south", but if that's the case, what is there to be done?"

To convince the undecideds, showing leadership and selling a programme of change. Not everyone goes around going "fuck the global south" and the ones that do aren't to be engaged.

that Coyle is another safe seat wasteman who thinks he has a huge majority because he's such a fine fellow, you could put a sandbag in a red rosette to replace that cunt and it would still have a majority of 10000+

But none of that is important - it doesn't fucking matter what the climate change policy of the leader of the Labour Party is, and it won't matter for five years - by which time it won't fucking matter.

(policy in the sense of "what we'll do when we're in power" - non-party options like a Citizens Assembly are one of the few things that might work - as well as take to the streets)

Take it to the streets is better. Strikes, withdrawing our Labour to win concessions on climate is better.

Citizen's assemblies sounds like a talking shop that the Tories could use to show they are listening when they won't be.

Bless you

Make sense.

Ian Cunt

Ha ha ha, oh no, heaven forfend that anyone would ever do such a thing to a politician pic.twitter.com/R3Tfdua3pi

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) January 16, 2020

Corbyn looks worse. Like a drunk that stumbled into the studio.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) November 19, 2019

Corbyn: "The blindfold Brexit they're cooking up is a bridge to nowhere and a leap in the dark." Christ alive that's a lot of metaphors.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) October 15, 2018

Labour's People's Vote stitch up: Corbyn and McDonnell's attempt to kill off a second referendum is as cynical as you could imagine https://t.co/LTr02hSa7Z

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) September 24, 2018

It's time for the Corbyn left to confront its Putin problem https://t.co/gYztfIB9C3

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) September 20, 2018

He is ten times the politician Corbyn is.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) March 23, 2018