Veronica Mars

I think the original plan was to have Cera be the season 2 rapist, but that would probably have involved not being Michael Cera.

yeah i sensed they were headed in that direction when i first watched that episode and it had me ON EDGE.

k im checking out of this thread cuz things are being revealed--cant believe none of yall would smash wallace but no accounting for taste--also the deputy from the beginning of season 1 has a funny accent

i cant believe no1 mentioned the jerk sheriff as a ws i mean cmon

sheriff lamb was ok but that deputy dude she dated was v hott iirc

yesssss dude she dates b4 logan

also lol max if u r still reading this did u decide to watch this because of party down?

Hey I just finished season 3 (late to the party). I was watching the penultimate episode and was psyched cuz I thought I had a whole other disc to watch (getting them from Netflix) but then I saw that the last disc was just extras so there was one ep left! And it was weird and left a whole lot of things completely hanging. (The previous episode brought up the Fitzpatricks wanting Cordelia's money and I thought there was some question as to whether she was really dead - but that didn't go anywhere).

In S3 - the rapist storyline - VM thought it couldn't be Mercer because he had a phone-in radio show. Did they explain that?

Anyway, sucks that this is finished :(

IIRC they were playing Mercer's show over the speakers at the party and she heard the audio skip - then she realized that it was pre-recorded and he had no alibi.

I just watched the last few episodes last night. It was such a superb show, just so brilliant, and the end of season 3 just left me so...cold. I don't necessarily need everything to be wrapped in a nice bow but when after the finale I'm scrambling to see if I forgot the last DVD then it seems like SOMETHING went wrong. I'll blame the network for picking up the final episodes last minute, not allowing time for a cohesive final arc - in other news, Smallville is on season 9!

Random notes:

-A+++ decision to drop Duncan from the show for season 3 - glad I wasn't the only one who was firmly team Logan/Veronica, not to mention that the Duncan character was complete dead weight anyway. I only wish their relationship could have been a bit more steady in the end, as it was getting a bit too Ross & Rachel for my liking.
-The murder of Aaron Echolls was dismissed far too casually- father of Logan, movie star, acquitted murderer was killed execution style right after the trial and barely two words about it in season 3?
-Did anyone else not recognize the other female in the S3 credits as Parker immediately? It was about 10 episodes in that I figured that it wasn't a character that was coming mid-season, ha.
-One thing I found a bit jarring but didn't get too hung up on was that Veronica would still associate with Dick (not that they were bffs) even though she knew that he facilitated her rape. And Logan loved to get smashy smashy at any man who dared give Veronica the side eye so his continued friendship with Dick was a bit of a plot hole in my mind.
-Were the Weevil and Logan actors on roids for season 3? Both were a lot bigger and very pimply (check out Logan's back during the surfing scenes).

So this is all on Netflix Watch Instantly now it seems. I can finally watch it from beginning to end instead of loose episodes I've caught here and there. Amazing use of The Streets in pilot!

Oh man I miss this show so much. Thank god for True Blood.

Favorite thing abt that show was a gay-themed/pizza delivery man mystery episode titled "Versatile Toppings"

big fan of this show.

this show is dope

have the first two season on DVD: and yes, it's awesome!

i can't quite put my finger on why this show's cynicism seems so much more thorough than like a 'grownup cop show' or a teen-themed show with all kinds of social backstabbing, or what have you.

i think it's bcz Veronica Mars schools EVERYONE! even her dad at times.

it's not so much Nancy Drew as much as Fresh meets Beavis & Butthead

i started watching this over the weekend and i'm almost done with season one. good shit.

just watched the 'hot dog' ep. i love the background trip hop soundtrack!! shit is so great & dated.

i have just started watching this a second time. loving it just as much as the first time. :-)

great great show

very few performers nowadays are as charming as k-bell

even k-bell

such a great show! and yeah, I don't think any of the cast has gone on to do anything as good, though it was fun to see them all show up on Party Down. Seyfried's rise is kind of pleasing even if I haven't seen any of her movies

should i watch s3 everyone says its bad right?

It's a little worse than S2, but not terrible. (IIRC)

yah but S2 itself is a massive dropoff from the greatness that is S1

hated season three with a passion

was probably fine

except for change in theme song and piz and everything shit about it

season 3 is totally funny and entertaining, but the story lines and politics are pretty dumb. if you're watching for the zings (like me) you will be fine. if you're watching for the noir atmosphere and intelligent mysteries, you will hate it.

fucking piz

It would have been 100% better if Rob Thomas had been able to cast Michael Cera as the creepy rapist like he had planned. I feel like Cera would work better as a creeper rather than a corny indie fuck.

I like Piz! And I thought the third season was actually an improvement on the second, despite defanging Logan and killing off the best character too early in the season. The finale is heartbreaking (and made even worse for me as I thought I still had another DVD’s worth of episodes left in the box).

My wife and I started watching season one last week, and I'm having trouble sticking with it. Part of the problem I think is that unlike lots of other shows we've been watching start to finish, this one doesn't lend itself well to nightly viewing. It seems designed for once a week watching. Also, it's got this annoying too cool for school but still for kids (but not) vibe, like some Nickelodeon production with extra hormones. Also also, I hate almost everyone in the first five eps, V. Mars excepted. Knowing little of the show beyond its reputation, if I haven't been convinced five eps in, is it still worth waiting it out? At least they've already dropped the horrid Troy love interest.

only u can answer that question

i mean you're basically saying "i hate this show, should i keep watching it?"

kind of a classic ilx query tbh

Part of the problem I think is that unlike lots of other shows we've been watching start to finish, this one doesn't lend itself well to nightly viewing. It seems designed for once a week watching.

I might agree with this, but I wonder why you think so?

Also it's funny to me that so many of us are watching this show right now (thanks to Netflix, I presume).

Jaymc, I suspect it's because so much of the show is told in voiceover and flashback, like one long "previously on 'Veronica Mars.'

i mean you're basically saying "i hate this show, should i keep watching it?"

I don't think asking if I should stick with it is dumb at all. I don't know how many people I've suggested stick with "Buffy," because those first few episodes are kind of rocky and ridiculous, but then it gets pretty good pretty quickly after that. Or "Deadwood," which is great but begins sort of short of where it soon gets (starting around the episode with Kristen Bell, ironically). Season two of "Mad Men" is much better than the first. "The Shield" starts strong but then keeps getting better and better. So asking whether "Veronica Mars" gets better is perfectly reasonable, I'd say. Vs. most shows, which are so formulaic they're basically the same show again and again. Like "ER" or "Cheers" or whatever. Or even "Seinfeld." Or "The OC." If you don't like 'em at first, you likely won't like them later. Right now I'm on the fence about "Veronica Mars" because the formula rubs the wrong way, but I suspect it may get better. Or maybe it doesn't!

Also also, I hate almost everyone in the first five eps, V. Mars excepted.

Felt this way at first, but the best thing about it is being surprised by how many you end up liking A LOT by the end of the season.

but that's just me though.

no, i totally agree with you there

Nickelodeon production with extra hormone
we just started watching this on netflix on demand, and i've actually kind of appreciated this vibe. pleasingly artificial? Like, it's not even going for any real semblance of believability -- everything is sorta stylized in a way that maybe more shows should be.

The show could do away with the washed-out/weirdly lit look of all the flashback scenes, though.

it could do away with amanda seyfried (seriously, am i the only person that hates her?)

this is the only thing i've seen Seyfried in, but yeah, she is horrible here.

(might not be her fault, tho, i don't know)

she looks like A) an alien B) gemma ward C) my cousin Natale

always thought it was weird that amanda seyfried and the actress who plays mac in v. mars were also both in big love

My gf was very proud of herself for identifying the girl who plays Mac as
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