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thing that irrationally annoyed me: Timothy Olyphant guesting as "Timothy Olyphant" even though he was clearly meant to be in character as Raylan Givens

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 13 January 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link

Well tbf he was a Janet-created fantasy Olyphant

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 13 January 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

yeah but it was specifically listed as “Timothy Olyphant” not Timothy Olyphant, so the Judge’s made-up idea of what the guy she only knows from Justified is really like

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Monday, 13 January 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

seems like a distinction they could have milked for a proper joke tbh

anyway that's all from me, the joke police

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 13 January 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

i thought that joke was implied.

i imagine he was credited as "raylan" in the script before some nbc lawyers got worried about rights issues.

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 January 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

yeah almost certainly some fox/nbc ish and not something worth not suspending your disbelief over

Clay, Monday, 13 January 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link

Hm, so reincarnation and karma is the compromise solution?

One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link

haha I had that thought too

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

I was hoping it would embrace universalism - forgiveness solves lots of the problems.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link

Universal forgiveness goes against the grain of most, if not all, ethical philosophers, because it renders their tortured wrestling with the nuances pointless.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

I thought last night's was fantastic and got me really excited about this season (for a week until the season finale). The change in setting seemed to open up something that had been missing for much of the season, tons of laugh out loud moments.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

I haven't watched it yet but I don't know if it's a good or bad thing about this show that literally anything could be at the end of the balloon ride and I'd probably buy it.

joygoat, Friday, 24 January 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link

i've been suspicious they had an eight episode final season and have had to pad the shit out of it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

aka The Americans s5

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link

It has felt like some wheel spinning for some time, but last night's really reminded me of what I love best about the show.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

The ending was the ending of A History of the World in 10 1/2 chapters.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link

Looks like a feature length/double episode finale next week (according to IMDB anyway).

And the episode title seems like a massive fucking spoiler so don't look it up.

groovypanda, Friday, 24 January 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link

Oh! I thought that was the last episode...

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link

Ha, the ending could certainly have scanned as a series finale, but more to come.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:43 (four years ago) link

Schur on the Olyphant cameo: all this thread's questions answered

https://tv.avclub.com/mike-schur-on-making-the-judge-s-dreams-come-true-with-1840910984

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 26 January 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link

ohhh that wasn't the finale

jazzed (it's a boy!), Friday, 31 January 2020 00:31 (four years ago) link

It's tonight, right?

DJI, Friday, 31 January 2020 00:40 (four years ago) link

90-min finale, yup

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 31 January 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link

fuck

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 31 January 2020 02:14 (four years ago) link

Well that was sweet.

DJI, Friday, 31 January 2020 05:56 (four years ago) link

i havente even finished watching & it has already destroyed ms

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 January 2020 06:19 (four years ago) link

V good

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 31 January 2020 10:25 (four years ago) link

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link

it didn't really work for me overall and I'm not quite sure why

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link

That's kind of my overall statement about the last couple seasons really

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link

Clara Peller!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link

Lacking cable and uninterested in legal streaming options, I haven't seen S3 & 4. The UK has had single season blus which I passed on. For cord cutters like myself, there will be a US blu-ray set released May 19.

Darth Bambi (Sanpaku), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link

it didn't really work for me overall and I'm not quite sure why

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, January 31, 2020 7:32 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

eleanor/chidi imo

i was still often devastated and felt like it was a solid ending but michael schur's romantic couplings really alienate me from his shows

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 31 January 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link

This did pretty much what I expected it to and it was perfectly satisfactory in achieving that. So fine, but otherwise underwhelming (a bit like the whole final series).

Doubling down on out of date information (aldo), Friday, 31 January 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link

Lacking cable and uninterested in legal streaming options, I haven't seen S3 & 4. ...For cord cutters like myself

This show was on broadcast television, and also available via illegal means.

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Friday, 31 January 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link

I liked what they did with Michael at the end. I was feeling pretty underwhelmed by the last episode's vision of heaven - like, really, this is all it is? But after watching this one I thought maybe that was the point. Because, you know, all these people are actually dead. And even in this universe where there's an afterlife that gives you everything you've ever wanted, nothing beats getting to actually live your life.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 1 February 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link

michael's ending was great, as was tahani's, i like that she essentially became an afterlife party planner

my favorite part was cosmic derek

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 February 2020 01:40 (four years ago) link

Schur pointed out an (I think) important detail about Chidi's exit. Everyone else took a seat on the bench, but Chidi, who spent his whole life tying himself in knots to make decisions, walked through without any hesitation whatsoever.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 February 2020 04:55 (four years ago) link

that was lovely. I mean the decisiveness of chidi’s exit specifically, but also the whole thing.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 February 2020 05:58 (four years ago) link

The Mary Steenburgen cameo <3

Also the fact that she was a guitar teacher:

In 2007, Steenburgen underwent minor surgery on her arm, which required a general anesthetic; shortly thereafter, she began experiencing "music (...) playing in her head day and night".[12] She subsequently took music lessons so that she could write down what she was hearing, and by 2013 had almost 50 songwriting credits.[12] She has collaborated with musicians from Nashville and was also signed to Universal Music as a songwriter.

jaymc, Saturday, 1 February 2020 06:04 (four years ago) link

I teared up a bit during that.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 1 February 2020 06:55 (four years ago) link

I had no idea she was Ted Danson's wife. I was thinking "oh, another Justified connection"

groovypanda, Saturday, 1 February 2020 10:07 (four years ago) link

I’m going through an amicable ish divorce and the Eleanor-Chidi part fuckin destroyed me.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 1 February 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link

Feel like this episode accidentally romanticizes suicide.

Evan, Saturday, 1 February 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link

hey it also jokes about eternal torture

nashwan, Saturday, 1 February 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

I disagree that it romanticizes suicide. They step through the door not to escape their life, or because they feel something missing from it, but the opposite: they feel like it is complete and they are at peace. It's more about acceptance of death and the unknown.

jaymc, Saturday, 1 February 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

That’s why I said accidental. Because I worry people might feel like if they perceive they are at peace with the decision to go- which is not the same as needing to escape, but it’s an easy shift in interpretation to logically apply, and many times suicidal people DO feel a huge relief when they’ve decided that they are going to do it so it might feel similar to the way the characters “knew” (felt a calmness). I know it was different and that it applied uniquely to the afterlife scenario in the show’s universe. Just had some parallels.

Evan, Saturday, 1 February 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

They step through the door not to escape their life, or because they feel something missing from it, but the opposite: they feel like it is complete and they are at peace. It's more about acceptance of death and the unknown.

Suicide is suicide no matter the motive!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link

The show is very heavily tilted toward viewing everything through the lens of philosophy, where suicide has been treated as an existential moral and ethical subject for centuries. And like much of philosophy, the handling is strangely detached from the sensate and emotional reality most of us experience as "life".

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

That's kind of my overall statement about the last couple seasons really

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, January 31, 2020 7:34 AM (yesterday)

Personally, I mostly disliked the last couple of seasons was because the show let its saccharine tone (which was always there) overtake everything else at the expense of its initially adventurous storytelling (and I'm not talking just about plot twists), not to mention everything felt so pat considering the show used to focus so much on grey areas - I felt the episode with Michael and Bad Janet was the show's absolute nadir

That all being said, I liked the finale more than I expected

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link


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