iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

a lot of stuff could be on both. tiktok usually longer videos, based on a lipsync app so much (most?) of the audio is dubbed from elsewhere, more earnest, hardly any of the wild stunt/fight/fail stuff that you'd see i.e. on worldstarhiphop. more dance moves. more transparently desperate ploys for likes and followers.

I’m not entirely sure and Facebook weren’t going to offer an explanation. I might have been VPNed into japan at the time but I don’t think I was.

I also got banned from google ads as well this week for ‘payment violations’ from an entirely legit but new google apps account. I already had one kafkaesque experience trying to work out what went wrong there.

I’m just going to pay a mate with a marketing business to do this for me.

It’s a good thing Ed is kept out of the PR business tbf. I’ve seen his hair

tbh the thing that ruined Facebook was letting people comment on your statuses

"Well, actually..."

honestly, it's also been good as I've found out when a few friends were in crisis a little easier and have been able to help as a result.

fb is grand

twitter is grand too

idk how ye do be using them. that may be the issue idk

twitter is grand too

i think the 'darraghmac' login has been compromised

darraghacked

vg tb

well noted mookie but since i started using twitter i have carefully curated it to only see dublin bus updates and say horrible things about tottenham players

ppl who do otherwise may be seeing different results but complaining about that seems performative given the locus of control

Your mom's performative

gosh i rly just never know how to react to that tbh

'if spurs had twice the points they'd still not be in first'

follow me

ouch

It’s a good thing Ed is kept out of the PR business tbf. I’ve seen his hair

― El Tomboto, Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:08 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Personal brand, mate.

I keep getting friend requests. It’s seriously freaking me out

For all its evils, though, I do wonder whether it would help me stay better connected with IRL friends who I no longer see much (mostly because we're in our 40s and many of them have families). For instance, not knowing about events that friends have created or are attending means I undoubtedly miss opportunities to actually see people

Actually, yes, yes it would, speaking as a person in my 40s

I was at a party last night, and a friend who isn't really on FB asked about my job ... the one I got laid off from over a year ago, and posted about on FB ... he was unaware this had happened. It was mildly embarrassing for him.

It feels like Facebook is just so crap now that surely everyone will stop using it soon.
But I thought the same thing five years ago and everyone still uses it.

Facebook's global domination strategy would ensure their continued profitability, even if everyone in the USA stopped using it tomorrow.

facebook seems a lot less ubiquitous when you just leave it and delete your account seriously folks, all your excuses for remaining are really lame. like it’s fucking facebook, gross, get outta there

that’s fine with me if they stay (barely) profitable, I just need them to stop being the #1 destination for my political donations, the #1 channel for disinformation actors, and most importantly, the default for its users to share their life events, to the exclusion of any other way of connecting with people

Xpost replace fb with ilx ;-)

that’s fine with me if they stay (barely) profitable

counterpoint: every Facebook executive should be jailed for 90 years for their deliberate program of sabotaging democracy and destroying journalism

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My dad is holding out, refusing to engage w the internet at all and I respect his decision.

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:09 AM bookmarkflaglink

It’s somewhat difficult to communicate w him but that’s the only real issue it has caused.

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:10 AM bookmarkflaglink

the internet doesn't make dads easier to communicate with tbh

lol

lol true

i've only got the one and tbf it has never been easy

someone I'm "friends" with on Facebook, for his birthday, posted a form that lets people give him anonymous feedback

"Stop posting"

"Did Antman crawl up Thanos's ass?"

In 2016, an internal report found that 64% of people who joined an extremist Facebook group found it through the company’s recommendation algorithms https://t.co/2XSFUiNST8 pic.twitter.com/RzY1eb4ni9

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) May 26, 2020

I got locked out of it over the weekend and found it very isolating not being able to see what friends are doing (even when all they were doing were posting pictures with no descriptions).

on the one hand, it's doing great things for BLM right now, because when the next protest is, what bail funds/other organizations are good to donate to, the latest news is hitting my feed and helping quite a bit.

on the other hand, literally everybody else is sharing a gif meme about your gif meme about their gif meme being a bad gif meme is in fact a bad gif meme....

...or being racist

the only person i know who ever mentions interacting w/ facebook is my mom

if you've seen these tweets...

Top-performing posts on Facebook today (link posts only, ranked by interactions, data from @crowdtangle) are from:

1. Donald J. Trump
2. Franklin Graham
3. Fox News
4. Fox News
5. Ben Shapiro
6. Ben Shapiro
7. Ben Shapiro
8. Blue Lives Matter
9. Occupy Democrats
10. Sean Hannity

— Kevin Roose (@kevinroose) June 16, 2020

interesting background...

—@CaseyNewton reports that @kevinroose's tweets showing the top content on Facebook — most often from right-wing pages — have "been driving people at Facebook absolutely crazy." https://t.co/FLc92TLKMV

— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) July 22, 2020

the lack of effort on the latest Facebook interface is mind-boggling.

there are two big bugs I've discovered, and frankly that's probably a fraction as I don't spend as much time on there anymore.

1) when selecting your audience, there are random friends from your friends list who will not show up in a search when you do it on a computer. it will say "not found". when you pull FB up on your phone and edit the audience, those friends magically re-appear.

2) When doing a Feeling or Activity, the activities only have 4 choices on the computer. If you do it on your phone, you have about 4 times as many, including Listening, which I used to use the most.

3) I couldn't even change my profile picture the other day. It kept returning a 'try again later' message. Worked instantly on my phone.

on the plus side, this just makes me use it less.

probably to encourage you to use it on your phone, which they can steal much more useful data from than a stationary computer?

probably, yea

it's aight, I just use other ilxor's data anyway when I sign up for things

was it in this thread that someone recommended unfollowing everybody for an empty feed? seems facebook broke that function recently

My account has been mothballed for about two years. I just went in to permanently delete and got given a bunch of 'options' to verify myself: call three friends and get a code from them or upload a passport photo. FFS.

i've noticed a thing it sometimes does where the box i'm trying to write a comment into appears as a single line, so i can't see what i've written without hitting up or down

love how we're now just getting phantom notifications because one frequently-interacted with friend comments on another friend's post that you didn't even look at, really great way to reduce the signal-to-noise ratio there.

think it happens mostly when they don't have anything else to show you, it's a "wait, come back!" manouevre.

it's the same on twitter btw, seeing responses from ppl you follow to a tweet by someone you don't follow

frankly shocking display of ... sorta doing their job for once

https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/05/facebook-takes-down-stop-the-steal-2020-group-organizing-around-false-claims-of-election-chicanery/

Is there anything really singular about facebook? I deleted my account around the time of the 2016 election, mostly cause it was starting to feel a lot like following hundreds of random tumblr pages. I might as well have packed my things and moved into a cave, of course. No doubt fb wanted me to have to sift through more viral garbage to find the few posts authored by friends in order to keep me on the site longer, but I remember feeling like they were deliberately trying to make the interface more like twitter some years prior. facebook mainly excels at imitating other platforms that threaten to overtake its popularity as far as i can tell.

Is there anything really singular about facebook?

Yes. It allows me to control my relationships with friends and family at very precise closeness levels.

There are some people I only want to interact with at arm's length - at the level of an annual holiday card or Christmas letter (back when people did those things).

We went to high school together, we have some shared history, I don't mind keeping in vague touch with you at a strict informational level. Wow, you moved. You had a kid. You got a puppy. You're doing macrame now. Great. Then I move on with my day and I don't need to have a face to face interaction or a phone conversation that gets steadily more awkward until one of us needs to make an excuse to hang up.

For a while lot of people in my life, that's exactly the right amount of contact. Not too much or too little.

Further, I can create several other highly customized levels of engagement - people with whom I will share goofy music jokes with, but not politics.

People with whom I will talk politics but not music.

People with whom I will talk pets but not books.

People with whom I will talk kids but not pets.

My closest friends? I will always have them and always have ways of finding. Facebook is really good for interacting with this whole huge penumbral group of people who aren't BFFs but aren't strangers either.

Ymmv - if it isn't something you need or value, fine.