The Sopranos Vs. The Wire

In the first season, it seems less like cops=good, drug dealers=bad, than workers=good, bosses=bad. D'angelo and his crew are sympathetic characters, while Stringer and Avon and the muscle are less sympathetic - besides the fact they kill people or give orders to kill people. In the cop sphere, it's similar, the bosses - Burrell, Rawls, even Landsman and Daniels at times, are not as sympathetic as Bunk, Lester, Kima, McNulty.

As the seasons progress - starting in Season 2 and esp. in Season 3 - you see the trials and tribulations of being a boss.

― giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Tuesday, June 9, 2009 3:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this pretty much holds true w/generation kill btw (which is better than the wire imo)

I've never even heard of generation kill - there's another on the list then. Probably shouldn't plan on getting much done in the next couple months.

it's good, but it's not as good as The Wire.

Ooooh clashing opinions here. Hmmmmm.

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xp ENBB - the two actors from the Wire that also appear in Generation Kill play the two biggest (white) fuck-ups in the former series. I know it's meta, but it seems part of the message of the latter.

Ah, interesting. Am excited to watch all of these now.

four episodes into Season 3... was James Spader unavailable to play the douchebag city councilman?

The disparity between the victor and the loser is fucking mindblowing here. I mean, you can definitely make a case for either but the Wire winning by 86 votes? No way the disparity is that large. If the Wire wins it wins by...don't know...ten at most. Same the other way around. Reconsider people.

Uh, it's not like we can give fractional votes. Not sure what anyone's supposed to reconsider.

I mean hell...what about the respective finales for both shows. Clearly the Sopranos had a better climax?

Yeah dunno...just a tad stunned is all. Love them both but come on...

I don't know, I've never seen it ... not particularly compelled to, either.

That's a problem.

Problem for some, maybe. Not a problem for me, and definitely not a problem for my bf who has no desire to watch Sopranos either.

my wife and I just started watching the sopranos ... we had watched maybe the first couple of episodes way back when -- on VHS, haha. Not sure why we haven't gotten around to it since then ... but I'm looking forward to seeing if it stacks up to the Wire!

season 3 is pretty good so far - McNulty is definitely in Grade A Asshole category by now, he's definitely become less likable as the series has gone on. Actually everybody is pretty much less likable (which is weird cuz one of the criticisms consistently thrown against the Sopranos is how unlikable all the characters are, but I pretty much don't like/identify with anyone on the Wire by this point, they all seem like mostly jerks).

also wtf is up with Chicken Lady political consultant, that is one terrible actress.

she is terribly hot.

I'm 4 eps into s2 of the wire, definitely enjoying it more than s1 (love sobotka!)

xp Shakey: she is weird looking. She gets a better haircut in Season 4.

You don't like Bunny Colvin or Cutty or Omar???

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Omar's so deeply unrealistic I just can't get into it - the character I have the most emotional attachment to is Bunk, and so far he's barely been in Season 3 at all.

Cutty's allright I guess, its like he wandered in from Scared Straight though

I felt the drug dealers get more likeable in season 3.

I dunno, most of the drug trade plot is focusing on Stringer Bell (who's a total Sopranos-style character - duplicitous, ruthless, craving legitimacy, etc.), Avon, and Marlo - and all them dudes are assholes.

I like Prop Joe but I am partial to fat, laconic gangsters.

the dumb henchmen are great.

haha yeah those guys are funny. "yo I hit him fo sho!" = yeah right

especially the "40 degree day" guy.

also wtf is up with Chicken Lady political consultant, that is one terrible actress.

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although she reminded me a bit more of some kid of large green insect (grasshopper, praying mantis) than a chicken, and was admittedly pretty fly.

she had impressive breasts considering the rest of her build. Nicky Sobotka's girlfriend was more normally proportioned.

lol

i'm guessing i'm at the same place watching the series as shakey. midway through season 3, about ep 5 to be exact. am also enjoying how mcnulty's turning into an even bigger asshole.

season 3's been pretty great right from the 1st ep. definitely brought me in more than s 2, which took prob 4 or 5 episodes to get rolling

colvin and cutty are two of the best characters in the series imo

hamsterdam plot is obv unrealistic, but i think it's been written well so far and has been really interesting watching it unfold

i employed lessons from the hamsterdam plot at work a couple weeks ago.

work at a baskin robbins, eh?

how is lester not yet listed as a "wtf, you don't find this guy likable" character?

Lester is Morgan Freeman role for TV.