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They are not my priorities.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:15 (six years ago)

constitutional reform is gonna be necessary at some point

"Back Home" in Dari (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:19 (six years ago)

filtered through the Clive L brains trust, a lot of these things that sound perfectly reasonable policies on paper will be rendered bad most likely.

calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:20 (six years ago)

^nihilism ;)

imago, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:22 (six years ago)

he's an ex armed forces boorish macho twat. he wouldn't even put a 'doing in the Romanovs in the cellar' option on a royal referendum.

calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:38 (six years ago)

Words that didn't enter xyzzzz__'s vocabulary today: 'including'

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:45 (six years ago)

"put them all to work in a care home" is surely the 21st century equivalent

imago, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:46 (six years ago)

The old ways are still the best. Swish swish!

glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:47 (six years ago)

I delve onto R4 for the first time in ages just now and the first thing I hear is an ad for a new Tristam Cunt show - the melts are coming back hashtag.

calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:48 (six years ago)

One of my best friends, who afaik has been a lifelong Marxist but also a pragmatist, is backing Lisa Nandy, for reasons I'm not 100% about but appears to be because she can win back the red wall. It's an interesting position given he is married to an immigrant but apparently she loves her too. I just said I have legitimate concerns about her.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 10 January 2020 23:42 (six years ago)

lol! ppl are just fucking nuts!

calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 23:44 (six years ago)

A mutual friend has gone for RLB but he says it's a mistake because the media will slaughter her and the Labour party has to listen to people. I said maybe we shouldn't listen to people who say "be more racist". It didn't work for ed Milliband.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 10 January 2020 23:52 (six years ago)

Why are they panicking? There's not going to be any more elections any time soon and there's ample time for the Tories to fuck people off, be they red wallers or not.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Friday, 10 January 2020 23:55 (six years ago)

Thank you. That's what I'm thinking but am a political imbecile

Colonel Poo, Friday, 10 January 2020 23:57 (six years ago)

I'm honestly stumped. there is only one candidate I'd be happy to vote for. Anyone other than RLB feels like just giving up. I am sympathetic to a pragmatist viewpoint and having any labour government is probably better than any conservative government. My preferred option of nuclear Armageddon now doesn't seem to be on any ballots

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 11 January 2020 00:12 (six years ago)

Love that Barry Gardiner has reviewed two things in twenty years on his Amazon account, a long and thoughtful review of his wifes poetry book and a precise review of the Natalie Portman Jackie Kennedy film pic.twitter.com/UZ8E0BJvbX

— Liam Fallon (@LiamCFallon) January 9, 2020



Just realised that review was actually when the campaign was suspended during the Manchester Terror Attack.

— Oscar Harrison (@oscarharrisonn) January 10, 2020



He’ll never be leader now

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 11 January 2020 00:14 (six years ago)

Yes he should have been there ready to take the perpetrator down.

Matt DC, Saturday, 11 January 2020 12:43 (six years ago)

Found this ‘traitors dartboard’ of iraq war critics The Sun made in 2003 – and had entirely forgotten about ... Robert Pires pic.twitter.com/u1xsoAhINm

— Fisted Away (@fistedaway) January 10, 2020

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 12:53 (six years ago)

Jesus Christ!

What do we think about this Star Wars/Kylo Ren theory from Jess Phillips pic.twitter.com/UwFo7tVYvs

— the human personification of embarassment (@txtililibet) December 22, 2019



Slightly better in context but I’m not sure portraying murderous Kylo Ren’s actions as partly due to him being neuroatypical is that sympathetic.
Last Friday, I watched the newly released DVD of “Star Wars: the Force Awakens” with my sons and their lovely autistic friend. Between us we decided that what appeared as the teenage tantrums of the new Dark Lord, Kylo Ren, was perhaps just him needing a bit of a “time out”. We concluded that perhaps he was autistic and just could not fit into the world he found himself in. Perhaps the new Death Star was just too noisy and made him feel stressed out. We thought he might wear ​the mask because he did not like eye contact. I am not sure that this was the film-maker’s intention, but it softened us to him. The group of people I was with “get” autism and ASD—they live with it every day—so they can see how a person’s behaviour might alter if things start to kick off. To all of us, it is not the person with autism who has the problem—it is the rest of the world. We have to think differently about people who think differently.

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 11 January 2020 12:57 (six years ago)

more proof that Jess and some parents of children with autism apparently, are fucking appalling and should be outlawed from talking about autism publicly. And of course everybody should be banned from talking about Star Wars publicly!

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:03 (six years ago)

JFC

Did anyone else hear Thangam Debbonaire’s spectacularly rude attack on Ash Sarkar during BBCAQ last night? Epic melt twattery.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:04 (six years ago)

didn't sound very debonair!

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:07 (six years ago)

Never voting for anyone who has a Star Wars fan theory

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:09 (six years ago)

"The group of people I was with “get” autism and ASD—they live with it every day"

so that gives you a license to talk risible drivel about a section of humanity you know fuck all about.

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:14 (six years ago)

LOL, she's a clown.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:15 (six years ago)

Never voting for anyone who has a Star Wars fan theory

OTM. Not trying to downplay the ableism here but the fact that we're discussing her thoughts on Kylo fucking Ren should be enough to make it clear this is not a good candidate.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:36 (six years ago)

reserving full judgement until i read her essay on babu frik

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:55 (six years ago)

Sometimes discovering people who you think are pretty cool and nice, finding out that they have heads full of Star Wars rot is almost as bad as finding out they are going to vote for Sir Kier Starmer in the leadership election!

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 14:05 (six years ago)

only joined Labour cos of Corbyn's slight resemblance to old man Ben Kenobis tbh

nashwan, Saturday, 11 January 2020 14:10 (six years ago)

Sorry but I had a traumatic experience with the original. Too cut it short my psychopathic wife-beater brothet in law "treated" me to the whole fucking Lucas trio in one cinema sitting in Bradford , it proved to be a formative experience to say the least!

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 14:14 (six years ago)

a specific issue with JP's purported listening and empathy shtick is that her insistence on speaking about everything through the lens of her own experience reveals a profound lack of empathy. She is is seemingly unwilling and unable to talk about anything outside of her own frame of reference. This is not simply narcissistic, although it is that as well, but I think people naturally see through that kind of thing. The reason the media melts think she has the common touch is because they are the same as her, a class of people who think that ultimately they are collectively the only ones that matter and that other peoples struggles and experiences are basically derived from their own in some way.

plax (ico), Saturday, 11 January 2020 14:37 (six years ago)

i recently worked with a woman about the same age as JP with an almost identical accent who looked just like her and I was constantly trying to figure out if she was her sister.

plax (ico), Saturday, 11 January 2020 14:39 (six years ago)

yeah she is possibly a psychopath, all other people are just some frame of reference for her to continue talking about herself in a very loud egotistic, showy and ultimately empty manner. But you've put it much better than that!

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 14:49 (six years ago)

Plax, was the woman’s surname Trainor?

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 11 January 2020 17:40 (six years ago)

normal

Again, please share with me the name of the party political organisation I support which would exclude me from Labour Party membership?

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) January 11, 2020



The communist party

— Thangam Debbonaire (@ThangamMP) January 11, 2020

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:39 (six years ago)

https://keirstarmer.com/

Another Future Is Possible

(but we won't give you any details without a name and an email address and a phone number and a postcode and agreeing to be contacted)

koogs, Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:00 (six years ago)

another future is possible, it’s just very unlikely #starmermentum

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:01 (six years ago)

we asked keir why he hired on his team people involved in lobbying for Private Healthcare compnies and whether he would continue NHS privatisation but he refused to answer. And the people who complain about factionalism attacked us for this very simple question. https://t.co/ERhY0rLIZC

— Mohammad (@MSuhail0) January 11, 2020

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:19 (six years ago)

Guy who takes on a team of right wing ideologues with multiple agendas other than improving the lives of UK citizens has the fucking gall to moan about factionalism.

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:23 (six years ago)

Labour members should stay in their place and never question Keir Starmer, yes his campaign is primarily run by members of the labour right and yes Keir's campaign is run from an accountancy firm linked to the paradise papers but members should just ignore that

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) January 11, 2020

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:26 (six years ago)

https://t.co/098ojExgoX pic.twitter.com/ewpmoGzYlh

— Hoops (@HoopSketty) January 11, 2020

when i said he has a record as an establishment puppet - a possessed ventriloquists dummy is more his look!

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:29 (six years ago)

Student tells MP to 'get in the sea', is investigated over a 'threat to kill' https://t.co/YS45vNI1sr pic.twitter.com/P1k71ASEau

— indy100 (@indy100) August 13, 2016

I knew Debbonaire had previous, what an absolute weapon.

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:46 (six years ago)

Oh good grief

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:20 (six years ago)

she's trying to tell a self-confessed communist that she shouldn't be allowed to join the Labour party. Another one who'd have Sir Stafford Cripps and many other history making commie luminaries of the Labour party expunged from history because Blair invented the party i guess.

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:29 (six years ago)

These berks love the fictional UK Red Peril plotline don't they, only they can't quite decide if the Communists are going to build gulags or make the party unelectable.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:39 (six years ago)

And all this to avoid what would in many countries be seen as unremarkable centre left policies

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:40 (six years ago)

I'm more worried(in a quite mono-manically and obsessed fashion rn tbf!) about that possessed ventriloquist dummy and his right wing friends than the dictatorship of the proletariat right now, because that is the real threat to the PLP and ultimately to the country.

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:46 (six years ago)

We will need this:

It's amazing what strikes can achieve if you actually do them. https://t.co/QxyqOQDcDE

— Dave (@MediocreDave) January 11, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:51 (six years ago)

this fucking spineless country deserves to degenerate into modern serfdom, and i say this as someone who was shat upon throughout my working life and never joined a union. I bet this will be all over the "quality" broadsheets tomorrow .. not at all.

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:54 (six years ago)

it looks like a very temporary victory tbf, but when is the last time something like that happened in this country, obv apart from the hugely important bollox to brexit passport covers.

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 22:06 (six years ago)


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