bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

those scare quotes aren't scary enough!

Is their a sizeable blue labour chunk of the membership, I'm not sure what I even know about the makeup of the membership these days.

Nandy's polling would suggest not, However, the 'but what about the TOWNS' stuff seems to be resonating with some of the PLP and might have an appeal in parts of the trad Labour heartlands, i guess.

"Labour but racist" probably has more appeal than capital letters Blue Labour ever will.

It's more an appeal to a semi-notional chunk of the electorate than the membership tho. I guess Blue Lab might have a disproportionate toehold on the unions, maybe.

In the unions, sorry.

labour mps.... if you want to deliver change.... you need to stop using words like "radical" and "comrade" and "left wing" and "labour"..... the electorate voted in a tory government so now you must promise that forevermore https://t.co/bCQaLYPeAe

— Stan The Golden Boy (@tristandross) January 10, 2020

As a massive fan of Hitler documentaries I'm pretty sure the FBPE dorks will still be banging on about the war in 30 years time

'radical' is fine for public dissemination, 'comrade' is strictly for private camaraderie between comrades imo

we need to deliver real manspreading change

n.b. ilx is private

Not giving a fuck how you appear to basic racists is the comradely thing to do

idk I think if you’re going to be smeared as a godless Communist who hates Britain regardless you might as well do it your way

idk i just find it a bit cringe. can't we be allies or friends or something

in public, like. otherwise it is a bit cosplay isn't it

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m7dzgd6ZIB1rbon87o1_500.gif&f=1&nofb=1

we laugh now but wait until somebody proves that public use of "comrade" cost us the red wall

https://pg.b5z.net/get/nb5z/s1080-*/zirw/1/i/u/10068435/i/ec/Comrade_Dad__add_size.jpg

The series is about Reg Dudgeon, a working-class man who thinks that the Soviet takeover is wonderful, and tries to champion the work of his rulers and party line. Unfortunately, his beliefs are tested as the excesses of life under the communists - food shortages, long queues, low wages - begin to take their toll.

the only objection I have is if subhuman melts start using "comrade" ironically.

'ello comrade arthur

THE COMPLETE SERIES

TWO DISC SET

is a helluva setup-punchline

wiki says there were only 8 eps so fuck knows what's on that second disc

the good news is that we've avoided the communist takeover of the uk, as foretold in comrade dad, and our food shortages and low wages are the result of pure, unfettered capitalism

thatcher porn xp

tragically "Comrade Dad" was a huge influence on today's Twitter melt community who grew up believing it was a documentary

And they don't even know that Bleasdale's G. B. H. was actually a documentary!

Why don't you come clean @piersmorgan .Tell your followers what you have against Meghan. Fact is she blew you out. You groveled to take her to your pub once and since then she has not answered your grovelling calls. Had she acknowledged you it would be a different story. QED https://t.co/Y5ksJ2xDKx

— Lord Sugar (@Lord_Sugar) January 10, 2020

the first 9m21s of episode 1 of comrade dad are weirdly unsettling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytoSJadmlIg

'what if threads but with a laugh track'

So Keir Starmer's team is now comprised of the Owen Smith campaign team, Progress, and Labour First, the hard right reactionary group established to expunge all traces of the left from Labour, who explicitly want to ban Momentum and Corbyn supporters from Labour

— Rosewood Shoehorn (@apiarism) January 10, 2020

this is fine

Yes, comrade Gazzara

Hardly subtle is it?

He might as well put up a sign: Melt Brigade

Starmer ready to go back to 2010-15

'radical' is fine for public dissemination, 'comrade' is strictly for private camaraderie between comrades imo

― imago, Friday, 10 January 2020 bookmarkflaglink

You know big words? Thought

...ah yes I forget you've written a book. Sorry will defer to you and your knowledge of words

'Citizen' was good enough for Robespierre and Saint Just, it's good enough for me.

Leave it Alph it's nearly the weekend

I'm leaving it, just remembering that some ppl know words and the weight they carry. Or whether they are 'cringe' or not.

I'm really hoping the membership come to their senses over Starmer. he's an absolute danger on two fronts: as in pliable and leaning well to the right of the PLP and he's a prize turkey who will become an easy fool for the right-wing press to lampoon.

Use of words like 'radical' and 'comrade' SHOULD be discouraged, I'm glad this is belatedly being accepted. But its not far enough, we need to be discouraging all forms of speech, as they are merely exercises in obfuscation and prevarication. We need to stop with all this endless talking, and start getting into peoples gardens, doing the rendering and firing air rifles at the greenhouse opposite

We have to face facts. People are tired of all these words, sentences and paragraphs, from balloons who think hands are for holding pens not punching burglars and carrying sacks of potatoes. We need to start lifting weights

an important part of being a centrist is imagining that you personally are the target audience, the swing voter, therefore for example what you find to be "cringe" is of vital importance, and if you are told to "fuck off and join the tories" then that's nothing less than an admission of defeat.

Attended my first Lab branch meeting last night. Mainly a discussion on the defeat. Got 2/3 mins to have our say.

No surprises when I say there was a ton of pushback from mostly manager sorts of a certain age (around mid 40s, mostly men but some women too) on the overstuffed manifesto and on Corbyn's leadership. A lot of talk around competence -- management talk, basically -- while I reminded them the world is about to burn and that the manifesto was minimum, that Brexit really was the main cause for the defeat and that Boris isn't that trustworthy either. All of the usual hits I play on this thread!!

It was productive, some valid points made on how to communicate policies in terms of connecting the dots (secure housing as something that's important for mental health too). One of the younger activists really put across the hurt he felt when the Northern constituency he grew up in turned Tory (blames it squarely on Brexit)

A lot of younger members turned out. Some older too. Many on their first meeting.

I'd say that, in terms of who will win...that's gonna depend largely on younger members holding their nerve on RLB. Had a drink after and a couple of the younger ones are broken up...had to go but I felt I could really turn one of those around over another drink. Young people are melting ffs!

Middle managers will vote Starmer. He is favourite but debates and more knowledge on what he is up to (the tweet above) will hopefully turn this around.

We need to start lifting weights

WE ARE THE SWOLETARIAT

Starmer also has Simon Fletcher in his campaign, so what is the reckoning that he’s trying to get people from all sides of the party involved so no factions are outside his tent, pissing in?

like getting one former Corbyn aide in is anything but cosmetic. I want to see that tent burnt down with all the melts in it.

i know he'll be locked for some but @simonk_133 has made good points today on another reason for the fall of the red wall = the abolition by the coalition (in the name of austerity) of the regional development agencies:

https://twitter.com/simonk_133/status/1215546506499018753

Well, if he’s around in the next weeks I’ll be sure to ask him.

The original Corbyn victory - and to an extent even his second - was about uniting a coalition of members that went beyond just the left, it was a mix of young left people and soft social democrats who were appalled by austerity.

So far RLB has held onto the first group fairly well. What she isn't doing so far is answering the question of how she will prevent the party from walking straight into the same cannons over again and it's essential that she finds a way of doing so or she won't be able to get the broader base she needs to win. There are probably a lot of undecideds out there who like her and her approach but don't want to take the risk. The planet will continue burning if Labour doesn't win etc.