bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

hold on, i'm getting word in my ear... keir starmer is bad again

when he's leader will you continue to say that though

like, cautious rallying-round versus BREAKAWAY TROT PARTY

just saying.. even neo-cons like Straw were ex card-carrying commies!

The important question is obviously whether he is a Stalinist or a Trotskyite.

starmer has made some unfortunate moves in the past and he should definitely have not focused on further criminalising poor people, but he is absolutely not cut from the same cloth as jack straw and that should be evident

that said, i am excited to see the debates between him and RLB. all the other candidates are noise obv

actually I might be wrong about Straw, it might have been his parents who were commies!

Starmer is just another PLP melt, nothing really remarkable about him and he's good at keeping a low profile, but he'd be a disaster in every sense as the next Labour leader imo

"The important question is obviously whether he is a Stalinist or a Trotskyite."

being a former Stalinist didn't seem to do Gapesy any favours!

he may be a disaster - that remains to be seen - but my question is, if he IS leader, what's the protocol. because a starmer win seems, if not a given, then a strong possibility. RLB best have a few things up her sleeve

long slow resigned slump into the abyss iirc

"News of Nandymentum has not reached these shores, back to you in the studio, Chris"

a lesson from history. Pols brought up by commie parents: Jack Straw, Lisa Nandy ....

if Lisa Nandy somehow became leader I'd probably renounce my membership and agitate for a new party tbh

...but she's not going to, being noise, as above

a lesson from history. Pols brought up by commie parents: Jack Straw, Lisa Nandy ....

... the Milibands? And David Aaronovitch, but that's another story.

If Starmer is leader I will wait and see basically, I still think a lot of the agitating for him is based on the “politically homeless” projecting on him hard. They never got over 2010.

Btw regarding Nadia Whittome

I haven’t backed anyone yet.

— Nadia Whittome (@NadiaWhittomeMP) January 8, 2020

Surprised to find a particular generation of politicians with rad parents are a cluster of Alex P. Keatons, are we?

I’m not sure it’s that surprising as a concept either; who here is more left wing than their own parents?

god i can't wait for my daughter to start advocating for fascism in 2032

I'd gulag her first

if Lisa Nandy somehow became leader I'd probably renounce my membership and agitate for a new party tbh

― imago, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 bookmarkflaglink

...but she's not going to, being noise, as above

― imago, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Look more noise

so Nadia is just giving some encouraging lip service to Clive without actually backing him. I'm hardly surprised she'd have reservations about backing him tbh!

someone wants a job, and knows he isn't getting it from RLB https://t.co/BGh1PHf5mM

— tom (@malaiseforever) January 8, 2020

Melt backing melt backing melt

I'd gulag her first

mark my words: it'll be a race to see who gulags who first in the gazzara household in the early 2030s

THE LEFT'S WAY FORWARD IS BACK, writes stoya enthusiast paul mason in a baffling new statesman piece

Mason is such an embittered fucked up old man. He's totally lost the plot - he'll be on the Salmond show telling people to start a new labour party next. What is this Stoya reference about with him? excuse me i'm slow and old!

more and more Clive Lewis looks to me like someone has stuffed a man’s head into a slightly smaller baby’s head

carve this into my headstone

@stoya come to Athens - the revolution is happening

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) January 25, 2015

I am exponentially more left-wing than my parents! My dad is dead but my mum is a Trump voter; both were a hair too old to be hippies and resented the easy time boomers had compared to them.

Yeah, I'm definitely more left than my mum - not sure how my dad would have turned out, but they were Irish people born in the 40s - the prognosis isn't great.

wasn't gyac's point that we often develop political opinions in opposition to our parents

my dad was from Kerry and born in the 40's and was extremely conservative and racist. He probably voted for Thatcher at some point, but I'm just guessing because I doubt the fucker would have even registered to vote - he was too busy swilling in the pub!

my dad is an ex-military, telegraph-reading, brexit-stanning, trump fan - i can't even bear to be in the same room as him when politics comes up in conversation :(

Yeah, I'm definitely more left than my mum - not sure how my dad would have turned out, but they were Irish people born in the 40s - the prognosis isn't great.

my dad is a melt who voted lib dem this time around. really not the worst, as dads go

that's a matter of opinion :p

Alphie breaking his neck to type “like father like son!”

My parents are ok I guess, good on some issues (abortion), horrendous on others. Both products of rural Ireland late 50s/early 60s. But I am definitely more left wing than them, and I am far more left wing than I was ten years ago.

Deputy leadership hustings just breaking up.

Inside the last Labour MP in Scotland @IanMurrayMP described himself as “the cockroach who survived Labour’s nuclear holocaust” as he made his pitch.

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) January 8, 2020

Sentences that are crying out for a comma

Latest leadership nominations - Keir has already met MP threshold.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2020/01/who-nominating-who-2020-labour-leadership-race

outside of the last labour mp in scotland, a book is a man's best friend, and inside the last labour mp in scotland it's too dark to read

imagine backing Jess Phillips when you aren't either pissing about or haven't just lost a bet.

Alphie breaking his neck to type “like father like son!”

Was gonna say his dad isn't a Marxist actual shocker but sure, go off.

The young Jack Straw was on the far left, even as an MP, and just gradually drifted rightwards.

I was 45 last week - I would say that I've been very left wing for a while, but it's definitely sharpened over time from a quite hippyish vibe 20-30 years ago.

Peter Mandelson was an ex communist too, adds another layer to his and Milne’s weird friendship.