The Sopranos Vs. The Wire

If you don't like it why do you want people to convince you to like it?

Also you might want to watch the whole series before deciding that "things continue more or less as before." I'm not saying you're going to change your mind, I'm just saying it seems weird to conclude this when you've only watched 2/5 of the show.

what ears are wounds said. if you're 2 seasons in and you don't like it, maybe just... stop watching it.

even tho i personally think it gets better, it's still the same show.

shakey should stop watching the show and move on with his life imo

fwiw i'm pretty sure if i forced myself to watch every episode of the sopranos i'd probably be acting like shakey by the later seasons

yeah tv rots your brain

haha I acted like Shakey about the Sopranos without watching more than two thirds of it

later I was diagnosed with a special form of autism that makes me unable to recognize or care about the complex emotional interplay of characters on the Sopranos and also Don Draper on season 2 of Mad Men

season 3 and 4 are pretty different from 1 and 2. I could see someone not liking the first 2 and really digging 3 or 4.
but (spoiler) 3 and 4 are duckless

Walnuts-Draper Disorder

there are important pigeons, though!

"things continue more or less as before."

Although to be fair to Shakey if he does watch it all the way through this is one of the main arguments of the show. The individuals involved obviously change in different ways as do their relationships, but their institutions are self-perpetuating, and without reforming them that it is how things will continue. But, I mean really, as someone pointed out if you expect the writers to offer a pat solution to the drug problem at some point, then I'm not spoilering things to say that ain't gonna happen. Some potential solutions will be explored, but they will be shown to be as problematic as the status quo.

But yeah I'd give up now if I were you.

its not that I expect a TV show to solve the drug problem - but seasons 1 and 2 both end with a montage of "...and the drug trade/criminal enterprise GOES ON" shots. Like, is that really necessary? The rat symbolizes obviousness, etc.

what you should do is stop watching the show imho

i for one think it's admirable that shakey is able to type all this to us after 25 hours of keeping his arms folded

i honestly don't get the complaint, not about the wire, but about anything really, that "the characters are one-dimensional". this seems like a readymade to me, that doesn't explain much. second, why is this even bad? most people are one-dimensional, frankly.

anyway, it wasn't any of the individuals, initially, that impressed me about the wire but how they all fit together.

it's hard to really follow the intricacies of the plot when you're yelling "IMPRESS ME, DAMMIT" at the screen every 10 seconds, though

Not that I really think this, but if Shakey really WERE watching the Wire just so he could come here and tell us all that he remained unswayed, I would actually think that was pretty awesome and hardcore

Sort of like the period where I used a Mac just so I could complain to people about how much I didn't like it

420 shoot a cop every day

u shd try 'damages', shakey.

that rose byrne is all kinds of pretty.

nabs, you're a professional critic and you're impressed by the idea of someone consuming a work of art they're sure they won't like just to be able to say with authority that it sucks?

The Wire is a show I totally want to get into but A. my computer is too shitty to actually torrent and d/l the episodes, and the DVD series are expensive.

Though if I wind up being a single man, the money I save on not taking the lady out to dinner could probably buy one season a week.

yes yes yes we get it you're getting dumped

TV series on DVD are made to be rented, that's a lot of money/shelf space/hard drive real estate

first season of damages is geat! and rose byrne is a h-o-t-t-i-e

im sayin

i will gladly watch even "troy" on cable

I was thinking about starting a thread about people who are OMG FRONTING with the Wire

― @kanyewest (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, May 15, 2009 1:35 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why dont u start a thread about what a stupid douche u are

he's started a few iirc

I know everybody thinks I'm just being jerky but I WAS genuinely interested in seeing this show prior to this poll - lots of people had recommended it to me - and I had every intention of seeing it. I'm not trying to be challopsy here, and there's plenty about it I do like. I've already invested so much time in it in a way I will have some cognitive dissonance going on if I DON'T finish it (maybe I'll leave that decision up to the wife, since she's watching all these too and likes her serial DVD rentals)

it is true the lopsided results of this poll combined with the rhapsodic review my brother gave me probably raised my expectations a little higher than they shoulda been

i think, for your own sake, you should allow your wife to finish watching them by herself.

think we all learned a lesson here today.

drugs are bad

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xpost - haha I just think it'd be hilarious and awesome, in a sort of Curb Your Enthusiasm way, to make yourself watch fortysome hours of something just so you could definitively PROVE you don't like it (but like I said, obviously Shakey's not doing that)

my reasoning for recommending continued viewing would be that, umm ... unless Shakey's got a pressing list of other stuff he would rather spend his TV time on, he's already invested 16 hours or so in learning about certain characters, and the rest of the show is where lots of interesting stuff happens that's dependent on knowing those characters and being surprised by where they wind up, so ... you know, why not at least get some payoff during the next two seasons -- another 16 hours or so is not so precious a chunk of the amount of time dude can expect to spend watching television across the course of his life (and being slightly disappointed by the Wire is still better than flipping around and watching the end of Daisy of Love or something) (though that show is pretty good)

d watching the end of Daisy of Love or something) (though that show is pretty good)

lolol stop spying on me

I am going to try to watch both of these shows in their entirety this summer since there's nothing on TV and I've never really seen either.

In the first season, it seems less like cops=good, drug dealers=bad, than workers=good, bosses=bad. D'angelo and his crew are sympathetic characters, while Stringer and Avon and the muscle are less sympathetic - besides the fact they kill people or give orders to kill people. In the cop sphere, it's similar, the bosses - Burrell, Rawls, even Landsman and Daniels at times, are not as sympathetic as Bunk, Lester, Kima, McNulty.

As the seasons progress - starting in Season 2 and esp. in Season 3 - you see the trials and tribulations of being a boss.

― giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Tuesday, June 9, 2009 3:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this pretty much holds true w/generation kill btw (which is better than the wire imo)

I've never even heard of generation kill - there's another on the list then. Probably shouldn't plan on getting much done in the next couple months.

it's good, but it's not as good as The Wire.

Ooooh clashing opinions here. Hmmmmm.

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not where I expected this thread to be going, but alright.