star wars 9 spoilers and postmortem shit talk

So bummed that all of the Avatar sequels are being pushed back. Said no one ever.

crossover pls

There's this weird ebb/flow between the Lucasfilm Story Group and the creators of individual projects. They basically consult on all projects, providing details and backstory for junk that appears on screen that's unexplained and doing basic error checking to make sure nothing new contradicts canon in an obvious way. But they're not driving the plots of projects and are basically sitting around hoping they don't have cause to hand out a bunch of no-prizes after every new movie comes out.

There's Star Wars as a series of connected stories in film (literature, comics, video games, virtual reality experiences, theme parks) and Star Wars as a set of lore that fans can go nuts over, and they're the keepers of the latter. Basically writing RPG-style sourcebooks both for the public and for the Abramses.

the "Skywalker spinoff saga"? spun off from what??

Okay but well that article is seven months old, and we know of no SW movie that's even in preproduction atm, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that there ain't no new SW coming next year. And I have a hat that's currently marinating and that I will slow roast and eat with great relish if we actually see more than say 2-3 new Avatar installments (a ridiculously overambitious undertaking that I was already skeptical about before the franchise fell into the hands of Nervous Nellie, Inc.).

star wars (1977) iirc xp

we know of no SW movie that's even in preproduction atm, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that there ain't no new SW coming next year

boy is your face gonna be red when babu frik: origins hits the silver screen december 2021

Also the Death Star plans first show up in episode 2 so there was a long-ass lead time on that thing.

― Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, January 7, 2020 7:35 AM (two hours ago)

I'm getting the impression the new franchise-wide direction when it comes to the "Skywalker Saga" is that nearly all of Palpatine's plans were extremely long-running. The Death Star was in the works for a long-ass time, but it's basically a floating military base with kyber crystal superlaser tech. It's implied (and apparently confirmed) in that recent video game that Starkiller Base was the planet Ilum, where jedi would go to find the crystals for their lightsabers. So they basically strip-mined the jedi's crystal planet and corrupted it to create another superweapon -- and the game takes place between Ep. 3 and Ep. 4, so the Empire had a presence there for a long-ass time, too. The Exegol fleet's super-cannon things appear to be another corrupted crystal laser thingy, so probably another refinement on the technology.

And they're probably all refinements on even jankier sith weapons from hundreds or thousands of years ago!

xp huh heeeeeey

the current film, which apparently no one likes, will gross a billion dollars by the next week or so; my marinated hat and i think some of the disney beancounters will find a way to make a new one in the next two years.

This Christmas, prepare to get Frik-ed right in the Babu!

So they basically strip-mined the jedi's crystal planet and corrupted it to create another superweapon

ah, it's a metaphor for disney buying lucasfilm, i get it now

tbh the best idea for the series would be to create a stable of fringe characters that do things in larger movies but don't have fleshed-out backstories, giving fanfiction writers and whatever the current version of tumblr teens is the ability to create all their own stories and ideas, and luring them to buy more content that addresses their new faves in ephemeral ways to keep the slash fiction dream alive, all while establishing a bunch more lore for them to pull into their campaigns

the real babu frik movie is the one we wrote in our hearts all along

whatever the current version of tumblr teens is

it's tumblr twentysomethings, i think

Whoa, trailer for Babu Frik movie has already dropped, what the heck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk_J0vm3bCI

Good to see they're keeping up with the one-every-second-year schedule which they just proved is too little time for them. So the next trilogy is going to be shit as well. Yay.

just called 1-900-490-FREAK, was very satisfied

aw, i'm bummed to discover that freddie freaker is a past meme; new to me

Oh, did it actually reach meme status? I just remember it from preadolescence when I recorded it off tv and watched it over and over because it was like the funniest thing I'd ever seen.

Baba Frik is actually Boba Fett. So obvious.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/freddie-freaker

Wow, my childhood, dissected by internet denizens...

I cannot swear to it 100% but if the commercials are intact on this thing you might just bear witness to a Freddie within a Freddy: https://archive.org/details/MTVPresentsTheFreddyKruegerSpecial1988

So glad this thread had derailed into a discussion of Freddie Freaker. My day is made.

tbh the best idea for the series would be to create a stable of fringe characters that do things in larger movies but don't have fleshed-out backstories, giving fanfiction writers and whatever the current version of tumblr teens is the ability to create all their own stories and ideas, and luring them to buy more content that addresses their new faves in ephemeral ways to keep the slash fiction dream alive, all while establishing a bunch more lore for them to pull into their campaigns

no literally one who's posted to this thread has standing to mock tumblr teen fanfic tbf

finn family hornytroll

― mark s, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 12:38 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean

Please, as if the Chewbacca/Maz slashfic of today could stand up against the seven-part novel I wrote at the turn of the century about the rise of Chancellor Valorum and his struggles with an overwhelming vinylwear fetish.

no literally one who's posted to this thread has standing to mock tumblr teen fanfic tbf

When, exactly, did Palpatine fuck? https://t.co/UKgAQj3tE2 pic.twitter.com/i0iOjVfHuY

— io9 (@io9) January 7, 2020

Also how, and where?

The fans demand answers, in explicit and perhaps even revolting detail.

I went and had a quick look cos of course it exists, right? And the answer to your question is Anakin and Obi-Wan (separately).

did those creepy sith acolytes watch? probably.

Do Force ghosts spend their time watching things living Jedi get up to?

one my closest friends has for years been EXTREMELY active on AO3 and can probably talk me though all possible galactic geographies of this in HORRIBLE DETAIL

however we do not quite see eye to eye on the merits of SW* so i am not going to ask in case i offend by my flippancy and am in turned offended by OMG WHO DID WHAT TO WHAT YIKES

*it's rubbish not not-rubbish

lol like I said before I don’t fuck with SW fandom (not that you would know from my posts itt, but I can google so) but the ships are extremely predictable! I don’t think we have a fandom hell thread for this kind of content but you’re probably better off not knowing...

As a general rule, my engagement with the fandom of any given thing I enjoy is limited to (at most) a handful of friends/family members and ILX. It's a policy that's served me well.

Ditto. Serious fandom is scary.

presuming you're not being paid to do so, you guys gotta stop watching these terrible films! They're just gonna make more until you quit!

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 15:45 (yesterday)

I mean, they're not.

― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 16:16 (yesterday)

They are! The next one is 2022 if not sooner! You did this!

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 16:22 (yesterday)

No, they're not - there isn't going to be a Star Wars X this decade. The three films listed are either the Benioff and Weiss trilogy, which has been very shitcanned, or the Rian Johnson one, which doesn't have much details at all except "new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored".

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/moomin/images/a/a4/Trollkarlenshatt12.png/

To paraphrase my last post: “the current film, which apparently no one likes, will gross a billion dollars by the next week or so (about a 350% return in a month); leading me to think some of the disney beancounters will find a way to make a new one in the next two years.”

It's not a 350% return. They don't get all of the ticket price, and promotion isn't included in the cost.

Gross, then. Would you care to argue that star wars isn’t a fantastic cash cow for disney?

Add 100 to 200 million for promotion, that's a budget of around 450 million. Then you get 50% from NA ticket sale, somewhat less from other territories. I think we're basically at break even right now. Which is very good!

I mean, if you mean "by Jan 2022", can I take some of your money on that?

(blurring for a moment the distinction between "a numbered Star Wars film" and "something else which says Star Wars")

Solo bombed and probably lost money. The future of the 'Star Wars Story' films are unclear. The last two main films created a lot of negative stories about the franchise. I don't think it's a fantastic cash cow, no. They're very expensive films, and they've stopped performing exceptionally well, and now just perform very well. I mean, we're not at DC level trouble, but we're not at Marvel level succes either.

And they have squeezed the lemon by making a lot of noise about the one that's in cinemas right now being "The culmination of the Skywalker Saga"

disney could stop making star wars movies tomorrow and still rake in billions from star-wars related merch, tv shows, and theme park attractions - the franchise is absolutely a cash cow

Disney probably technically has the means to crank out a new SW movie two years from now but if there isn't a secret new entry already well into preproduction at this point chances are slim. Besides which, Disney seems pretty gunshy and dithery wrt the property (see: directorial switcheroos, announcing and retracting announcements of future projects) so I wouldn't be surprised or blame them if they took a minute to count their cash and figure out the best path forward.

Yeah there’s no way they’ll cease making stuff while Star Wars is an excuse to print money. Which it very much is!