US Politics, January 2020. Because we hate ourselves.

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That's 100.000 people. That's no empire. We're a colonial power, sure.

Frederik B, Monday, 6 January 2020 10:55 (six years ago)

u r really dumber than your reputation, amazing

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 January 2020 12:43 (six years ago)

wow sounds bad pic.twitter.com/Hrr8neNnWj

— jordan (@JordanUhl) January 3, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 January 2020 12:43 (six years ago)

Just, if people don't know, the US isn't in the top 15 when it comes to Military spending / Total government spending. It's 9% according to the World Bank. Which is a lot, it's 2,3% in Denmark. But it's not why you don't have M4A. In Israel it's 11,1%, and afaik, Israel has better social services. Anti-imperialism is just the completely wrong way to look at this.

Frederik B, Monday, 6 January 2020 13:58 (six years ago)

interesting. the CBO thinks it's about 14.8%

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 6 January 2020 14:13 (six years ago)

Link?

Frederik B, Monday, 6 January 2020 14:24 (six years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

The U.S. Department of Defense budget accounted in fiscal year 2017 for about 14.8% of the United States federal budgeted expenditures. According to the Congressional Budget Office, defense spending grew 9% annually on average from fiscal year 2000–2009.[43]

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 6 January 2020 14:33 (six years ago)

Hm, the note there leads to a completely different report, and the first sentence doesn't actually seem to be according to the CBO. I can't see where that claim comes from?

Frederik B, Monday, 6 January 2020 14:39 (six years ago)

I mean, Fred's right, even if we cut military spending in half there is zero chance that money wouldn't somehow end up in the pockets of the rich

frogbs, Monday, 6 January 2020 14:43 (six years ago)

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 14:47 (six years ago)

Lincoln Chafee's running for President as a Libertarian.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 6 January 2020 14:54 (six years ago)

lol wait isn't John McAfee too

rob, Monday, 6 January 2020 15:07 (six years ago)

also Sam Seder

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 6 January 2020 15:10 (six years ago)

I'm just hyped for Chafee/McAfee 2020: Rhyme & Reason

rob, Monday, 6 January 2020 15:11 (six years ago)

more like Crime and Reason, am I right folks??

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 6 January 2020 15:15 (six years ago)

John McEnroe also running

papa stank (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 January 2020 15:17 (six years ago)

we've def been obsessing over the wrong primary

rob, Monday, 6 January 2020 15:25 (six years ago)

A guy I worked with at the time claimed Obama nothing at all to do with the mission, and it was Panetta all the way.

I imagine this guy now thinks that Trump himself is taking on secret missions to the Middle East and taking out terrorists himself, with his own bare not-small-at-all hands.

No need to anecdatalyze - Trump himself tweeted "Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden." (Oct 22 2012)

And then he OF COURSE proceeded to whine about how little credit he got for killing Baghdadi.

Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 6 January 2020 15:41 (six years ago)

Can the dude even hold a weapon at this point

papa stank (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 January 2020 15:43 (six years ago)

he's right, he should get more credit for murdering those two children alongside baghdadi

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 6 January 2020 15:43 (six years ago)

i see that trump is threatening sanctions on IRAQ now, threatening to make them larger than those on Iran now. while also saying stuff like

“They’re allowed to kill our people. They’re allowed to torture and maim our people. They’re allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up our people,” he said. “And we’re not allowed to touch their cultural site? It doesn’t work that way.”

...and yet i am going to carry on with my day, i guess. after all, he's actually been a very ineffective president who doesn't have much of an effect on the world because of how incompetent he is, right

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:34 (six years ago)

the euphemism "cultural sites" makes me wanna barf

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:39 (six years ago)

why

El Tomboto, Monday, 6 January 2020 16:40 (six years ago)

maybe "designated collateral damage"

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:43 (six years ago)

I mean as employed by numbnuts himself, because he dgaf about culture

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:43 (six years ago)

what makes you say that?

https://i.imgur.com/uHJgcQ7.jpg

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:50 (six years ago)

at least Little Bush had The Fart Book

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:54 (six years ago)

that poor kid looks so sad :(

closed beta (NotEnough), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:12 (six years ago)

Don't think that I won't judge him the instant he chooses to become a public figure.

Now We Know (Sanpaku), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:16 (six years ago)

Just, if people don't know, the US isn't in the top 15 when it comes to Military spending / Total government spending. It's 9% according to the World Bank. Which is a lot, it's 2,3% in Denmark. But it's not why you don't have M4A. In Israel it's 11,1%, and afaik, Israel has better social services. Anti-imperialism is just the completely wrong way to look at this.

― Frederik B, Monday, 6 January 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Just hundreds of billions, anti-imperialists are so greedy they just want it all for cultural sites!

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 January 2020 17:16 (six years ago)

I wouldn't be able to keep myself from peeling off the gold foil and eating the load-bearing chocolate superstructure

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:17 (six years ago)

New John Bolton statement: "I have concluded that, if the Senate issues a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify." pic.twitter.com/1UIVIhLVb6

— Dustin Volz (@dnvolz) January 6, 2020

chances of senate issuing a subpoena to bolton?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:25 (six years ago)

subpoena the tax returns

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:26 (six years ago)

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:30 (six years ago)

Fri. (12/27): we notify Deutsche Bank about our piece

Sun. (12/29): Trump + Putin have mystery phone call

Wed. (1/1): we tell DB we are publishing Fri.

Wed. (1/1): Trump decides to kill Soleimani

Thurs. (1/2): Soleimani assassinated

Fri. (1/3): we are cyberattacked

😳 weird

— Robert J. DeNault (@robertjdenault) January 5, 2020

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 6 January 2020 18:05 (six years ago)

xp

I mean, Fred's right, even if we cut military spending in half there is zero chance that money wouldn't somehow end up in the pockets of the rich

― frogbs, Monday, January 6, 2020 9:43 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes but this is mostly* useful as a rhetorical strategy, i.e. "if you're concerned about that cost, you should logically also be concerned about this cost, unless your concern isn't actually about cost"

* except maybe not really, because the likely retort to that would probably be something along the lines of "we need to do this, we don't need universal health care," and then it's a stalemate, because what do you even do with that?

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 6 January 2020 18:10 (six years ago)

My point was more that the anti-imperialism argument just messes things up further. Isn't the point also that the US spends more on Health Care as a percent of GDP anyway? So the money is there.

Frederik B, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:35 (six years ago)

General Milley has just said the letter regarding troop movements out of Iraq was a draft, and releasing it was a "mistake." It was however delivered to the Iraqi military. It seems the U.S. military is as confused as everyone else about what their intentions are.

— Liz Sly (@LizSly) January 6, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:47 (six years ago)

Wow indeed.

Camina Burana Drummer (Leee), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:39 (six years ago)

fucking "trade secrets"

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:18 (six years ago)

Correcting Bolton:

"I have concluded that, because the Senate will not issue a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify."

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:48 (six years ago)

My point was more that the anti-imperialism argument just messes things up further. Isn't the point also that the US spends more on Health Care as a percent of GDP anyway? So the money is there.

― Frederik B, Monday, 6 January 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Tankie twitter has really wound up your soft left technocratic politics has it not?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 13:19 (six years ago)

you're obsessed

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 13:24 (six years ago)

He is inventing a weird straw man to justify hundreds of billions in defence expenditure.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 13:39 (six years ago)

Fred how could you

💠 (crüt), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 13:56 (six years ago)

Lol

papa stank (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 14:10 (six years ago)

An interesting Rolling Stone story about Lindsey Graham. (It's not just a rant; it contains actual reporting.) Here's the pull quote:

“People try to analyze Lindsey through the prism of the manifest inconsistencies that exist between things that he used to believe and what he’s doing now,” [Steve] Schmidt says. “The way to understand him is to look at what’s consistent. And essentially what he is in American politics is what, in the aquatic world, would be a pilot fish: a smaller fish that hovers about a larger predator, like a shark, living off of its detritus. That’s Lindsey. And when he swam around the McCain shark, broadly viewed as a virtuous and good shark, Lindsey took on the patina of virtue. But wherever the apex shark is, you find the Lindsey fish hovering about, and Trump’s the newest shark in the sea. Lindsey has a real draw to power — but he’s found it unattainable on his own merits.”

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 15:23 (six years ago)

A good read.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 15:36 (six years ago)

You say pilot fish, I say

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/e6/bc/a7e6bc66156b7c7a993420d39b44e507.jpg

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 15:42 (six years ago)


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