bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

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lol what did i do?

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 January 2020 11:53 (six years ago)

Also - with all candidates - we are getting a sense of how much talent was suppressed by Corbyn's refusal to broaden Labour front bench. Even loyal ppl of talent were sidelined to avoid upsetting the Lexit deadbeats.

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) January 5, 2020

when a complete idiot presses post just as the crack he's been smoking is stimulating the old receptors!

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:03 (six years ago)

Infuriating.

@siennamarla
Asked what she would drop from Labour’s 2019 manifesto, Lisa Nandy replies: “Free broadband. People said to us, it’s all very well promising free broadband but could you just sort out the buses? And that was the more pressing issue in their lives. It’s not about whether you’re radical or not, it’s about whether you’re relevant.”

nashwan, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:08 (six years ago)

stoya come to the labour front bench - the revolution is happening

hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:09 (six years ago)

hey at least she's got a programme

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:10 (six years ago)

she's a smorgasbord of content next to joker Jess!

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:17 (six years ago)

hate to say it but i just read Nandy's Graun Op Ed and there's not much in there to object to, i just don't trust her.

this

What is/was Corbynism? A thread:

Firstly, it was only ever called 'Corbynism' because Corbyn's leadership made possible the hegemony of a left-intellectual coalition within Labour. Corbyn's own personal belief system, which is not very systematic, was only one component of that.

— Daniel Gerke (@drgerke1) January 4, 2020

is quite good but also bad/sad in several areas - talking about Clive like he has something to offer; correctly identifying the need for structural reform without recognising that nobody in the electorate or commentariat is gonna be hyped for discussing it

starting 2020 very "we are fucked and i'm giving up politics for religion", don't know what will perk me up during this leadership election tbh

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:25 (six years ago)

what will cheer me up will be seeing the back of this ragtag gang of dubious melts and jokers and seeing RLB as the next leader. I'm not asking for much.

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:29 (six years ago)

my melt-dar game is strong. In 40 odd years I'm yet to see a Labour pol who I've dismissed as a complete cunt prove me wrong, if anything they've always turned out much worse than my initial misgivings about them.

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:38 (six years ago)

the broadband policy was one of the ones that really hit in the election! you can argue with the “and another thing” way that new investment policies were drip fed and also to meadway’s point about the prioritisation of nationalisation, but it seems daft to drop something that played well. also you can give cities control over bus franchising very easily. david miliband has been struggling through that particular thicket of central gov and obstruction admin for a few years.

Fizzles, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:41 (six years ago)

yeah Fizzles it's the billionaire owned media that decide the policies, not the electorate.

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:42 (six years ago)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/01/04/nigel-farage-plans-100000-party-parliament-square-10000-brexiteers/

i do not see what could possibly go wrong with this

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:45 (six years ago)

a thermobaric bombs igniting above the lot of 'em would what could go right!

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:50 (six years ago)

sorry for much chainposting. not even 1pm and am already fresh on red wine - need to try and save what is left of this day!

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:54 (six years ago)

I've been wondering when and how Farage will choose to turn on Johnson. These negotiations are not going to go well for the government and a split on the pro-Brexit side will be one of the crucial turning points of this Parliament.

Basically Johnson has the option of extending the transition period and enraging the Ultras - "out of the EU but still controlled by Brussels" - or threatening a WTO Brexit that will decimate what remains of manufacturing in a lot of newly Tory seats. It's a very unstable coalition that hasn't been put under any serious strain yet.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:14 (six years ago)

Yep, otm, the wheels will come off this thing sooner rather than later.

Seeing as he’s being an absolute prick, I no longer feel bad about tweeting about the time I met Paul M*son and got him to sign some of @Lokinash06’s fan art. pic.twitter.com/J9s6KNE2Dg

— molly (@molono) January 5, 2020

glindr jackson (gyac), Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:24 (six years ago)

speaking of which I saw this horrific image of A Campbell playing bagpipes over Charles Kennedy's grave the other day

TS: Dancing on your grave vs. Playing bagpipes badly over your grave.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:30 (six years ago)

Asked what she would drop from Labour’s 2019 manifesto, Lisa Nandy replies: “Free broadband.

Jess Phillips brought up the free broadband pledge too, I'm assuming these cretins don't seriously think that people didn't vote Labour because of free broadband but can't think of anything else in the manifesto to single out.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:32 (six years ago)

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/01/jess-phillips-is-not-the-answer

Phillips has remarkable faith in the power of public relations and internal company processes to resolve industrial disputes. “Now,” she writes, “if I worked at Uber and I had a problem with the way staff and drivers were being treated . . . the first thing I would do in making a complaint . . . would be to use the company’s own words and point out where it isn’t living up to its own self-imposed standards and values.”

Where to begin with this? Everybody knows that, when it comes to gig economy work, such channels of communication as exist between workers and bosses are mainly cosmetic — anyone kicking up a fuss will likely be booted out without much ceremony. When Uber drivers recently won legal recognition of their employee status, it wasn’t because they had finally mastered the art of persuasion and convinced their employers that their ill-treatment ran contrary to the company’s mission statement; it was because they took them on, and won, in a court of law.

This dubious sentiment is echoed in a later passage about workplace harassment, in which Phillips advises that, “asking for help is okay; the worst someone can say is no.” This is incorrect: saying no is not the worst thing your superior can do. Anyone who has ever endured a difficult situation at work, and held their tongue for strategically sensible reasons, would have good reason to feel patronised by these suggestions. “In your life,” she writes, “you have more opportunity to use the systems in place to change stuff than you think.” It is true that many people are not fully up to speed on their rights under company grievance procedures, but this seems rather a tenuous basis for a politics of dissidence.

plax (ico), Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:33 (six years ago)

No doubt she picked that up when she worked for her parents' company, ee by gum.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:39 (six years ago)

Come on now, her family toiled hard for that second home in France and they all talk like Noddy Holder ho ho ho etc

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:42 (six years ago)

Yeah that’s someone who’s never had a job in the gig economy talking. Like your parents thinking you can drop CVs into businesses.

glindr jackson (gyac), Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:43 (six years ago)

Someone who also swells her MPs income with 9k from a dodgy donor and gives her hubby 30k assistant jobs. She couldn't be more ignorant + insulated from how it is out there now.

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:46 (six years ago)

Not that she couldn't find out, but she is a incurious individual.

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:48 (six years ago)

Nadia - the so called virtue signaller - shows her up for what a grasping piece of shit she is.

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 13:54 (six years ago)

I need to find out what the advance was on her books - she switched publisher for the second (bought by Caitlin Moran’s old editor at Ebury/RH, dude moved to Hodder to start his own imprint) and the first book was published by a super-posh acquaintance of mine at Macmillan, both with authority to spend six figures if need be. Wondering why she didn’t stick with a female editor?

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:04 (six years ago)

I've been wondering when and how Farage will choose to turn on Johnson. These negotiations are not going to go well for the government and a split on the pro-Brexit side will be one of the crucial turning points of this Parliament.

Basically Johnson has the option of extending the transition period and enraging the Ultras

Do the ultras matter anymore? I can't really see how Farage will have an opening to turn on Boris, at least not any time soon.

anvil, Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:58 (six years ago)

I don't think the ERG matter that much for the time being with the new parliamentary arrhythmic. But isn't the money behind the Boris campaign pretty much a bunch of ultras?

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:30 (six years ago)

lol, parliamentary arithmetic even

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:33 (six years ago)

Farage is a busted flush at this stage, even if (when) the Brexit negotiations start going tits up they'll still be able to present it as down to the intransigence and bloody-mindedness of foreigners. Mark Francois and the rest will have knighthoods lined up to keep them sweet.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:34 (six years ago)

This won't be an issue for two or three years - we're too far from an election - but if the Tories are seen as having failed to deliver a satisfactory Brexit then we could well see pressure building from a Farageist perspective again. Or they might all lose interest after January 31st, who knows.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:49 (six years ago)

In other words its not people on the Tory benches that the govt needs to be wary of.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:50 (six years ago)

Now the public has agreed that Brexit is whatever Boris says it is, going to be tough to unconvince them again. Breathing life back into that will take work, especially now that remainers have disappeared and aren't there to keep it rolling with their sweet snowflake tears

anvil, Sunday, 5 January 2020 16:02 (six years ago)

What the hell is strategy here

He knows he has an election in 120 days in the one region labour did well in? Where he'll want labour activists to support him? pic.twitter.com/e9VPSuWH9t

— bread and poses (@MrJackGrant) January 5, 2020

It’s a good job he doesn’t particularly need the Labour GOTV machinery to get re-elected.

ShariVari, Sunday, 5 January 2020 16:27 (six years ago)

Hate to admit it, but Livingstone is the only one who actually saw the role of Mayor of London as something other than a step on the career ladder and the chance to strut about acting important while doing fuck all.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 January 2020 16:30 (six years ago)

Khan is a fucking melt, always has been. hated him since he snubbed Corbyn at the start and did that crude speech where he used the word "power" 963 times to back up his hypothesis that only Labour melts can actually get into power.

xxp

snowflake tears of happiness tbf. Two of their primary objectives have been realised : i/ the death of Corbynism. ii/ bollox to brexit passport covers that let people at EU customs know they aren't happy with this bloody rum state of affairs. Not quite the utopia of 2012 where the loud blast of the horn of plenty was often deafening, but almost!

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 16:31 (six years ago)

MOMENTUm are the real embarrassment though. 🤷🏽‍♀️ https://t.co/rk26KeWeSI

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) January 5, 2020

postman pat seriously needs to die.

calzino, Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:50 (six years ago)

This is hilarious, full admiration for Ross immediately steaming in there with “its Alan Johnsooooon” cos you can tell those guys don’t have a clue who he is

glindr jackson (gyac), Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:59 (six years ago)

Lol @ ppl begging for wwiii and fuck, who could blame 'em

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 January 2020 22:05 (six years ago)

Ken Jeong clearly has zero idea who he is.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 January 2020 22:20 (six years ago)

When you definitely know who Alan Johnson is. pic.twitter.com/pZ9mI0MVtM

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) January 5, 2020

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 5 January 2020 22:25 (six years ago)

to be fair, he does have changnesia.

koogs, Sunday, 5 January 2020 22:26 (six years ago)

It's called the Masked Singer, celebs sing in costume and we're supposed to try and guess who they are, which is completely impossible. Six of them perform and then the loser gets unmasked

— RopesToInfinity (@RopesToInfinity) January 5, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 January 2020 22:31 (six years ago)

MARGARET, 51, DROITWICH: why hasn't Corbyn built that new train station for the county yet? He's been our unelected president for 35 years.

LISA NANDY: you're actually so right 😭 ffs how shit are we it's actually mad. Sorry. Sorry

— Death to the West (@FlairmanWao) January 5, 2020

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 6 January 2020 08:36 (six years ago)

good work of someone to do accurate transcripts of her doorsteps convos and make it look like a joke.

calzino, Monday, 6 January 2020 08:41 (six years ago)

Labour leadership: Jess Phillips clarifies Brexit stance, saying party won't back rejoin at next election - live news

that was a rapid about-face. These melts are always preaching about "message discipline" to Corbyn but not so cracky at practising it themselves.

calzino, Monday, 6 January 2020 09:56 (six years ago)

when you have about as much political conviction as mayor khan a jellyfish, probably best avoiding improvised policy on-the-fly.

calzino, Monday, 6 January 2020 10:04 (six years ago)

At this rate, I'd be voting for the fly!

Mark G, Monday, 6 January 2020 11:38 (six years ago)

Looks like some interesting stuff, quite a long read so will finish later.

How Labour increased its vote share in the Isle of Wight against the odds https://t.co/YoJ6iZoL6u via @leftfootfwd

— Ian Woodland (@IanWoodland) December 30, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 January 2020 11:54 (six years ago)

Rayner is the absolute Heineken candidate for deputy, getting broad support and reaching the parts of the PLP that I wish had fucked off into oblivion by now.

calzino, Monday, 6 January 2020 13:58 (six years ago)


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