in every 'new yorker' short story ever...

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33) desultory and minimal knowledge of Important Historical Event gleaned from wikipedia and a high school textbook.

-- remy bean, Monday, January 21, 2008 1:42 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

as opposed to ilx poster remy bean who saw his buddies die face down in the muck at da nang

-- and what, Monday, January 21, 2008 1:53 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

wrong, confrontation douchebag. as opposed to considered research.

remy bean, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

Looks like voiceover man said "'Moonshine' by Alec Wilkinson, in the August New Yorker."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

37) Judgmental pet.

Eppy, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

38) Sex as evidence of character's patheticness.

Eppy, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

39) Someone running their hands through their hair.

Eppy, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

40) Body image issues.

Eppy, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

41) The Unbridgeable Gulf of Class Difference

rogermexico., Monday, 21 January 2008 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

42) Young parent looks at her child and realizes she has already failed to be the mother she promised herself she would be.

Clay, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

43) Aging sculptor looks at a recent work and realizes he has ultimately failed to become the artist he promised himself he would be.

Clay, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, all of this reminds me that Gilbert Sorrentino is sort of the anti-New Yorker writer.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

In that he kind of covers the same material but with an additional cruel and mocking godlike Fassbinderesque p.o.v that provides comic "relief."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

44) Particular form of reticence typical of character's region/ ethnicity/ gender/ generation is presented, vaguely frowned upon.

mulla atari, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:59 (eighteen years ago)

I have never read a New Yorker short story, and yet, after reading this thread, it is as if I had read them all.

moley, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 02:05 (eighteen years ago)

In this interview Gil S. mentions the New Yorker briefly in Item 11, but also talks about similar writing elsewhere, especially item 6.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 02:26 (eighteen years ago)

nuance masquerading as epiphany, epiphany masquerading as peripety

M.V., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

there are frequent short stories in the new yorker these days that don't conform to stereotype, to be fair.

I was going to say this in a ruder, bitchier, more self-aggrandizing way

nabisco, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:05 (eighteen years ago)

good restraint

Eppy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

Well yeah, that's partly what I meant by this (xpost):

usually think of The New Yorker Short Story as a genre that includes the ones by lesser writers but from which the better ones are exempt

-- Hurting 2, Monday, January 21, 2008 1:14 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

What, you got a story in there, nabisco?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:32 (eighteen years ago)

I guess it's time to link to this relevant thread.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:36 (eighteen years ago)

45) character quietly repeats meaningless phrase to himself under his breath, as if it mattered, but he knew it did not

J.D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds more like something from The Twilight Zone

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

Actually all of work pretty well when considered as fragments of Twilight Zone episodes.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:45 (eighteen years ago)

Cold War sci-fi paranoia preferable to unnameable ennui. Especially when enacted by future sitcom stars.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

what the fuck are you talking about?

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

most of these are actually pretty ominous when removed from context

remy bean, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:48 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, bleeding over from this thread.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hm. Looks like Salter published plenty of stuff in The New Yorker, so maybe I should put a lid on it. I guess the strategy is if you don't like something you say "typical New Yorker fare" but if you do like it you say "it just happened to be published in The New Yorker." In any case, didn't mean to derail thread. Am enjoying these, including number 45.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 04:05 (eighteen years ago)

Some of these are Belew-era King Crimson song lyrics in sum.

Abbott, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 04:15 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2007/12/10/071210fi_fiction_egan

This story is totally typical new yorker fare but I still enjoyed it a lot.

31g, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 07:37 (eighteen years ago)

The golden thread that links Junot Diaz and William Trevor.

Eazy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 07:38 (eighteen years ago)

"The Ghost Writer" was first published in the New Yorker.

Eazy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 07:40 (eighteen years ago)

Philip Roth: the Woody Allen of neurotic jewish writes

remy bean, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 07:46 (eighteen years ago)

wate

remy bean, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 07:46 (eighteen years ago)

a++++ thread u guys

reading so much nyer for creative writing undergrad seminar.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 07:49 (eighteen years ago)

harpers 4 lyfe

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:02 (eighteen years ago)

^ real talk

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:08 (eighteen years ago)

harpers wack too

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:10 (eighteen years ago)

upstate writer living off 90's economy gets drunk and falls asleep in central park and wakes up in a cave 20 years later and wait they never get this far

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:10 (eighteen years ago)

damn son i thought we was fam

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:11 (eighteen years ago)

minstrel

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:12 (eighteen years ago)

the creeps at mcsweeneys should ride on the new yorker

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:13 (eighteen years ago)

i should offer to ship valencia assault rifles see how they respond

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:14 (eighteen years ago)

"Mr. Eggers, I have some light verse, and John O'hara and Louise Erdrich naked and strapped down on a spinning table. How much would your people pay per mutilation?"

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:23 (eighteen years ago)

rather get an astrology magazine

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

from the story linked by 31g:

But that wish only camouflaged the deeper feeling that Sasha always had: that fat, tender wallet, offering itself to her hand. It seemed so dull, so life-as-usual just to leave it there rather than seize the moment, accept the challenge, take the leap, fly the coop, throw caution to the wind, live dangerously (“I get it,” Coz, her therapist, said), and take the fucking thing.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

Ha. I think it was actually Zuckerman Unbound that started in The Atlantic. It's all about Alvin Pepler.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

haha, I remember reading that exact SENTENCE when that story came out and going "UGH, NEW YORKER FICTION!"

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

I guess stuff like that doesn't bother me because 1) I'm basically illiterate so it doesn't really seem cliched to me and 2) I just skim over the boring parts whenever I read anything.

31g, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Ok wait, come on, this?
http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2008/03/10/080310fi_fiction_kunzru?currentPage=3

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:00 (eighteen years ago)


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