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glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 2 January 2020 14:40 (six years ago)

too many man

nashwan, Thursday, 2 January 2020 14:41 (six years ago)

Again far be it from me to factor human decency into that

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:09 (six years ago)

Obviously there's a ton of sociological stuff going on in that graph but it's weird that the Tories only really plunge into the testosterone zone over the last few years, apart from a brief period around the time of the Falklands War.

OTOH the Tories have made themselves actively repellent to a lot of female voters over the last decade but I'm surprised it's that recent a phenomenon.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:47 (six years ago)

keir starmer was the reason that boris johnsons girlfriend had to crowdfund 'not letting my rapist out of jail' last year

idea he is some electable safe pair of hands that the tory press will struggle to smear is just wilful blindness https://t.co/KTSErjCOMv

— bread and poses (@MrJackGrant) January 2, 2020

I think Keir might have some very serious problems being as popular with female voters as Corbyn was.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:52 (six years ago)

Slightly different being led by serial REDACTED Johnson than say T May I guess

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:52 (six years ago)

The one commonality between Corbyn’s coalition in the membership and the country, intriguingly, is that he did far better with women in both elections.

Just floating a theory here, but is there a similarly gendered correlation in how seriously people take climate change?

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:56 (six years ago)

It’s not a local phenomenon either, there’s research by Piketty showing female voters moving broadly left over the past decades. Noticed this in Ireland too, there was a gender gap in the abortion referendum too. And if you look at who vote UKIP/Brexit party here, the difference is even clearer.

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/nigel-farages-brexit-party-attracts-more-men-voters-than-women-heres-why-thats-a-problem/

Beyond Brexit, there could be other factors at play too. Compared with men, women are generally less supportive of spending cuts to public services, and this is even true among supporters of parties of the right. Women are also more likely to give priority to healthcare and the NHS. The YouGov poll found that 37% of women selected health as one of the three most important issues currently facing Britain – ten percentage points more than the 27% of men who felt the same.


Check that 18-24 gender gap
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glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:19 (six years ago)

The extensive problems with Keir Starmer's past - a thread 👇🏻

{CW: discussion of sexual violence with regards to prosecutions}

— jenn (@JennThorburn_) January 2, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:26 (six years ago)

Yeah but he looks like a proper leader

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:29 (six years ago)

I wonder if anyone in a position of influence is going to point this shit out now, or whether they'll just wait until he's elected and the press decide to do so.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:47 (six years ago)

I read something the other week how he reduced the amount of expert barristers required in rape cases, but ffs that thread really hammers home how bad he is.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:56 (six years ago)

He’s a conduit for fascism you fool https://t.co/wv6WTaO61O

— Labour Towns Source (@judeinlondon2) January 2, 2020

while most switched on people consider Cummings a dangerous idiot, this fool sees some wisdom in his macho-darwinist blathering.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:03 (six years ago)

Saw this and checked tl of person I can rely on to be wrong about these things & to them it’s such larks, Jude otfm

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:10 (six years ago)

Cummings is delightful because he despises the status quo, unfortunately so did Hitler

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:13 (six years ago)

Cummings is the status quo: married to money, in love with his own galaxy brain, working for the PM.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:17 (six years ago)

I should send a link of the IQ scores of all the Nazis on trial at Nuremberg to Bastardi, some very clever, quote-worthy lads with some bold ideas about whipping the civil service into shape!

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:20 (six years ago)

I once made some cheerful minions memes with quotes from hitler, goering and goebbels, was trying to make some sort of point about something but forget what it was.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:27 (six years ago)

The Conservatives were successful in running a campaign as though they were in opposition in Labour were the ones in power, but more so than expected. Is there any reason that they can't maintain that and govern as though they were in opposition, passing blame to Labour? I had thought you would need a Trump like figure to carry that off but maybe it doesn't seem quite so necessary

anvil, Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:30 (six years ago)

Cummings is the status quo: married to money, in love with his own galaxy brain, working for the PM.

... public school, Oxford, they've never seen the like in the corridors of power.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:31 (six years ago)

Cummings appears to be motivated almost entirely by a hatred of institutions - the EU, the BBC, the civil service - and that coincides with the public mood right now. When you factor in the vague sections of the Tory manifesto about British constitutional reform, there are going to be some profound changes coming up that have been neither talked about nor scrutinised.

Quite how this fits with the jaunty pseudo-One Nation guff that's coming from Johnson I don't quite know. Probably because it's all bollocks.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:35 (six years ago)

He is the crazy disruptive end of the establishment, it's worse but it's not the same - certainly not in his head. It's probably dictionary definition of Reactionary

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:38 (six years ago)

When I said he hates the Tory Party as much as me I wasn't joking

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:39 (six years ago)

"Probably because it's all bollocks."

this much is guaranteed!

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 20:07 (six years ago)

cruel starvation jokes from the architects of the boris johnson brand https://t.co/09xiLbACqr

— sean morley (@seanmorl) January 2, 2020

fuck off and die HIGNFY and every unfunny melt cunt that participates in this including ILX fav Brooker ..forever!

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:13 (six years ago)

I raised the points about Keir Starmer-as-DPP people have made to someone who worked with him for five years, who said:

‘All the decisions you refer to would have been made in accordance with the law as it stands, and with the application of the Code for Crown Prosecutors, which applies to him in exactly the same way as it does to the most junior prosecutor in the Service.’

...what this (and other things the person had to say about the chatter about Starmer) says to me is that the electorate, us included, needs serious education about the role of the CPS in general and the DPP in particular.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:18 (six years ago)

I know a cowardly melt when I see one Suze and he would ruin the Labour party as leader in every way possible.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:21 (six years ago)

and MP's like RLB and Paula Sherriff didn't have his exalted highfalutin background when they voted against the welfare act.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:25 (six years ago)

He’s my MP and has solved problems for everyone I know who has gone to him with their issues, and was in the Camden New Journal talking about how there was no going back to the triangulation of New Labour, or abandoning the anti-austerity commitments of the last manifesto. And I am extremely worried about the plans Tories outlined on p48 of their manifesto.

The other thing I gleaned from the conversation with his former colleague was apparently Orange Juice is his favourite group.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:30 (six years ago)

lots of fantastic constituency MPs are complete melts.

His record at the CPS is so wretched I don't why you'd waste your energy being an apologist for him.

great he loves jangle pop lets get back into austerity lite and racism.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:34 (six years ago)

Rip It Up (and start again).

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:37 (six years ago)

The first rule with melts: it doesn't really matter what they say, they always go the same way.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:38 (six years ago)

I bet Tim Farron loves Orange Juice as well!

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:48 (six years ago)

LOOOOOOOL

I’m not sure he’s as melty as made out, which is only a matter of opinion at this stage. I don’t go around apologising for people with power in any case! I really hate melts; I like Jeremy Corbyn. I don’t like MPs who don’t vote against austerity but if they later fess up to being wrong five years ago and change their behaviour and views, I’m willing to allow them to move on.

Weirdly, I’ve known about Keir since the McLibel days (the plaintiffs maintained an office in the block of flats I lived in at the time), and in a weird twist my best friend from home was in danger of becoming engaged to the lawyer acting for McDonalds (she swerved that, thankfully).

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 2 January 2020 23:02 (six years ago)

In this game you can only judge them on their voting record and their past, and his is a complete fail as a candidate to deliver a transformative government on so many levels he isn't really a serious candidate imo.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 23:09 (six years ago)

The only way to win is not to play to exterminate the motherfuckers

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 January 2020 23:21 (six years ago)

Anyone who abstained on the welfare bill is a melt. I'll even call Rayner a melt at this stage for the sake of a dodgy argument. But it is basically true - because these are pols who said Fuck millions of people - I don't give a shit about them. Or maybe some of them lacked courage, but not the ones that count.

calzino, Thursday, 2 January 2020 23:22 (six years ago)

Cumming's latest blogpost/call for job applications from people almost as smart as he is but not quite is a horrorshow in what it lays out as his plan for the coming years (essentially "do what we did at Education, everywhere, at all once, because that worked beautifully and I am smart). It's like Alan Walters all over again, but so much worse.

stet, Friday, 3 January 2020 00:21 (six years ago)

jfc

calzino, Friday, 3 January 2020 00:26 (six years ago)

None of this stuff will matter when the PM's office is stacked full of incel Red Dwarf fans and we've gone to war with the Moon.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 January 2020 08:22 (six years ago)

heh!

his anti-Semitic dog whistle "the likes of Goldman Sachs.." from his blog back in November should have got him into some deep shit, luckily for him Corbyn was still LOTO and an election was looming.

calzino, Friday, 3 January 2020 08:40 (six years ago)

Think the Cummings stuff is being a bit overplayed, Johnson isn’t Gove and he’s a lazy prick with no appetite for this.

glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 3 January 2020 09:14 (six years ago)

Wonder what'll happen if Trump gets on the blower demanding military assistance for the US's Forever Wars, in true Bush/Blair style?

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Friday, 3 January 2020 09:16 (six years ago)

for all the bullshit Corbz gets for not doing enough hardman posturing he would have had the correct response here as a PM. Was just reading a comment: will any of the labour leadership candidates show their Hilary Benn chops by saying they'd have pulled the trigger on Soleimani themselves ✊

calzino, Friday, 3 January 2020 09:40 (six years ago)

Honestly I think the fact that Johnson is so lazy and uninterested in fine detail is one reason why he's likely to give Cummings carte blanche to do what he wants on this sort of thing.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 January 2020 09:43 (six years ago)

Don’t think so; people kicking up are going to go to Johnson and it’ll be endless grief for him.

glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 3 January 2020 09:53 (six years ago)

On New Year's day with #Streatham 's most famous, the beautiful @NaomiCampbell 😍#YearOfReturn #ChristmasInGhana pic.twitter.com/zgEsnC4aEz

— Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP (@BellRibeiroAddy) January 2, 2020

it’s a definite step up from Charles Taylor!

glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 3 January 2020 09:57 (six years ago)

I'm gutted that Chuka's not Streatham's most famous anymore

calzino, Friday, 3 January 2020 10:01 (six years ago)

Chuka is so petty I bet he’s enraged by this

glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 3 January 2020 10:04 (six years ago)

Boris in the job two minutes and he's already got a possible war in the Middle East to contend with, out it another way, LOL we're all gonna die.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Friday, 3 January 2020 10:28 (six years ago)


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