THE IRISHMAN, A Martin Scorsese Picture with de Niro, Pacino, Pesci, Keitel

Second viewing, again at MoMA… if anything liked a bit more. Pacino's accent is good enough. The complaints about "de Niro moved like an oldster" are mostly gtfo.

Also an actor I used to do improv jams with in a rehearsal studio 30 years ago is credited as Hoffa Rally Teamster #1 … missed him though.

Quintessential MoMA filmgoer exiting: "Who was the Irishman?"

we are all the irishman

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The complaints about "de Niro moved like an oldster" are mostly gtfo.

Mostly it's fine but the hand stamping bit was terrible.

didn’t understand why they could have deep faked some stunt double to do that scene. it’s the first thing people mention when the film comes up.

Super impose DeNiro's head on Conor McGregor

Oh my god I have almost an hour left in this thing.

What she said

He’s dead and there’s still almost 45 minutes in the movie.

the last 45 minutes are what it’s about

honestly i loved how long this was, feature not a flaw. it’s a life, a mess of incident

Ill probably do a straight through run tomorrow. Overdue for second watch.

I’m reserving judgment but jeez louise

It's what it is

its lead actors are, on average, older than the old people in “Cocoon,” a movie in which you definitely didn’t see Wilford Brimley curb-stomp anyone.

Well, nice of De Niro to show up for the end of the movie

Anyway this was worth it for the extended silliness about the fish in the car.

heart of the film

The last half hour = Ozu with shag rugs

For all my love of crime films across various subgenres this movie made me really loathe actual mobsters.

i liked this much more than I expected to. CGI not very distracting.

this was worth it for the extended silliness about the fish in the car.

We've established that Hoffa is the fish.

Can't believe I failed to recognize celebrated NYC idiot Bo Dietl the first time.

"I dunno, A FISH"

For all my love of crime films across various subgenres this movie made me really loathe actual mobsters.

Ozu is just about the only music cue he doesn't use

Watched it again for the second time early this morning (was up, found myself watching it on volume using headphones, which I actually kinda recommend). Having first seen it in the theater I was surprised in a good way that I felt I only had to take a brief break once, it flows steadily and effortlessly. Thing that stood out for me, and again, headphone listening may have helped, was the silence that predominated. Not emptiness, but the lack of music and dialogue at many key points, not to mention how relentlessly nonflashy the sounds of violence were. Gunshots pop rather than explode, the actual explosions always seemed understated.

that makes me want to see it a little more, I have been reluctant

I think a big reason that this was criticized as a rehash of old Scorsese movies is because of a misreading of those tonal choices Ned notes...as if it’s trying to be Goodfellas and failing rather than exploring an altogether different tonality.

I never thought for a second that The Irishman was trying to be Goodfellas. I'd be more inclined to say that those who heap praise on it mistake caution and somberness for wisdom...but I try not read into people's likes and dislikes like I used to as matter of habit.

Yea it's not Goodfellas redux at all

The somber tone is not 'wise' … it's what it is.

New Marty interview in the Sunday Times today; embracing death's inevitability is his chief talking point.

so my wife just casually noted that she was one of the models used to sell the de-ageing effects, nbd

I hear your wife paints houses.

she doesnt even dust shelves man

i was the fish

a cod... a haddock... wha?

look, he was a fish, I don't know

He was Fish...Vigoda

Can't believe I failed to recognize celebrated NYC idiot Bo Dietl the first time

My SO (a native New Yorker) picked him out right away. I was like, "this actor's great!" He said, "That guy's a racist dishit."

his last run for mayor was partic stupid

he was also in Goodfellas, and appeared in clueless fashion on The Daily Show

Count me among those for whom the last act was what validated the entire movie's existence.

well we know you don't like Big Boy Caprice

"It's summer."

hey, I've got two hours of An Elephant to watch tonight. Does De Niro die slowly in it too?

he dies throughout the entire Paint Houses book

Hey, I liked the movie!

There's no general Scorcese thread, so here's a 15-minute short he made for a Macau casino that's slight but fun, written by Terrence Winter (Sopranos/Boardwalk).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_KSYIZ61q0

you can find the Scorsese threads if you spell his name right :)

ah fuck

lol

M-O-O-N that spells "Scorsese"

When the moon hits your eye / like this CGI Guy / That's A-Marty