bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

xp
there was loads of that shit from May in '17. You expect labour to be a bit better Ho fucking hum!

I mean all that this is telling me is 'polling (yeah I know)' rather than it should've been anyone else with Labour's Brexit policy.

I'm not sure any leader would have been able to win under FPTP with any Brexit policy, it divided their voter base so much more than the Tories. But Corbyn became toxic with crucial groups of voters for a wider range of reasons - some down to structural factors, some down to Brexit, some down to the press and some down to unforced errors.

And there were a lot of unforced errors.

OK but lets stick to unenforced errors since June 2017 only

I've yet to see proof of it - like it isn't in the polling as it hasn't been decoupled from Brexit, and looking at Johnson people are prepared to forgive everyting as long as the Brexit position was to their liking.

(On the doorstep at the final day one of the ppl I was canvassing did get a 'Corbyn friend of the terrorists' so I get how some of that got through.)

It kind is important to try and keep younger people voting Labour. I don't think they would've understood any collaboration with May to get us out of the EU. And neither would you.

if they had stuck to the '17 brexit policy then perhaps we'd have a Labour minority govt now. All politicians are toxic with chunks of the electorate, you completely overstate how toxic Corbyn was. If you think Corbyn was toxic in those Northern/Midlands marginals - see how "lock up the dolies" brylcreem toryboy does in the same ones.

Even if there is a national crisis caused by brexit. I don't think there will be a massive swell of goodwill towards Starmer just because he was a PV/2nd Ref advocate in brexit regions. If anything it might just make them hate him even more (meh that waxy faced glossy remoaner cunt!). But of course the amount of people who hated Corbyn on the doorsteps was legendary and the pollsters will back it up!

I read that as 'lock up the doilies' and thought it was some novel new way of minimising the anti-Labour grey vote.

Honestly I really doubt that a Remain lawyer from North London is the answer here either. None of the candidates are really inspiring much confidence right now.

yep. really what needs delivering now is party reform and more power to the membership alongside systems to bring thru better parliamentary candidates - i.e. people who don't look like they've spent 20 years in Basic MP School

lock up the doilies as well tbf!

a multi-pronged approach incorporating, but bigger than, the party itself. trade unions obviously still have a big role to play but they've suffered badly from 40 years of Thatcherism and they've always had their own institutional problems. all the long term problems are infinitely bigger than "how can we find a leader that won't fall out with Laura K?" and require a leap of imagination that i'm not sure exists in the PLP at all

earlier I saw some (Cummings sounding cacophony of bullshit stylee) nonsense that CCHQ complaints have been made to the bbc about their "Corbyn bias" during the election campaign period. Can't tell if it is parody or not.

It is absolutely not parody. They are putting the BBC on notice.

I wish it was funny!

Pro Corbyn bias!?!??! Man, arseholes love using this language don't they

Which Northern constituencies were you allegedly canvassing, Julio?

Yeah mte, I know I wasn’t imagining AF’s posts that started “as an EU citizen”.

Oh yeah no, I would've been livid - I was wrong. There's a lot of it to go around.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENJeWWoWwAA4UMj?format=jpg&name=medium

lol sorry to bring this here - but now I'm going to be out of my overdraft. I just won £1820.00 on a 30p (10p on 5 numbers/20p on 4 of the same numbers) bet on Irish Daily Millions. I had 8 lines and it is drawn 4 times daily - so the bet cost a bit more than 30p tbh .. but fuck! After my humiliating scratchcard fail I just thought i ought to post it here - HNY folks!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GpD5mZJp0Ug/maxresdefault.jpg

(congrats calz, hny2u2)

it's the best feeling in the world!! but now I'll give it all back to 'em with interest!

congrats calz and hny to all itt (and lurkers too)

Get the fuck in son <3

A friend of mine lucky dipped her way to £413 last week. Get in, you lucky people!

Happy New Year calz, congratulations! Delighted for you.

Happy New Year to posters itt and the various lurkers/Americans

Aw, that's fucking magic!

Happy new year guys. See you all in the 20s when BTW we're all gonna die.

The 80s revival starts here

HNY everybody!

i get the feeling these 20's aren't going to roar much

get in calz! here's to gradualist restoration of democracy and the vile revenance of progge

tonight ye olde numbers game marketplace heathenism delivereth plenty progge!

sorry too much gin!

bbc new years fireworks thing is playing three fucking lions right now

ohhh

22.7% - Margaret Thatcher spent just 22.7% of this decade breathing. Her lowest total since the 1910s. Decomposing.

— Maggie's Still Dead (@Stilldeadmaggie) December 31, 2019

Craig David is performing 7 days on BBC1, on BBC2 Rick Astley is performing Never Gonna Give You Up.

There's no future, and England's dreaming.

xp that's definitely a plus though

One of the first few tunes of the new year on Joolz was Vossi Bop, in fairness.

La Roux is doing a live version of In For The Kill, please cancel the country.

Finnish PM Advocates Four-Day-Week, Six-Hour-Day.
When Labour called for it, UK right-wing media attacked it. Other countries call it civilized practices; workers share the gains from technology.
What chance of civlized practices in post-Brexit UK?https://t.co/bblSPARftx

— Prem Sikka (@premnsikka) January 1, 2020

OTM

Speaking of the fireworks last night, they played seven nation army for 30 seconds and guess what

This is remarkable, man. @jeremycorbyn has completely transformed politics and the country's discourse around inequality for the better. Despite failing to overcome the odds to become PM, there's no going back now. Real change is coming. #OhJeremyCorbyn pic.twitter.com/lhTcN6nPAT

— Marcus B 🎆2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣0️⃣🎆 (@marcus_bernard) January 1, 2020

I think that fucking chant is the least thing I'll miss about Corbynism to be quite grumpily honest!

but it's a sad reminder that we could have had a truly transformative govt instead of 5 more years of neo-fascism and austerity :(

As metaphors go, "a meme, but only if you're already trying to hear it" is not what I'd go for.

Football chants outside of football = dud
The music of Jack White = deeply reactionary dud

Have I already done the bit about a new Guy Witchy cheeky cockney gangster movie being the perfect overture for this government's reign of murder?

there won't be any crude traveller stereotypes in this one, because they all had their homes expropriated and they all got locked up in sachsenhausen belmarsh.

20 years ago today, this happened in the Millennium Dome. pic.twitter.com/wR2bVTBGdQ

— UK Politics Live (@UKPoliticsLive) December 31, 2019

a good reminder that all melts need to be liquidated!

none of that "let's all join hands and defeat boris" bollox - they need to be burned alive and even their ashes will be too impure to fertilise the crops!

Ugh, melts on about the ‘narcissism’ of that Corbyn video. Are they just throwing bad words around regardless of what they might actually mean (again)?