Can report that A Rainy Day in New York is now on American Airlines domestic flights on demand...
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 27 December 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
Wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the Literary Clusterfucks thread
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/03/ronan-farrow-hachette-woody-allen-memoir
― the ball comes in, we're like this *grabs assistant coach* (Matt #2), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link
big whoop
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 March 2020 02:47 (four years ago) link
Was wondering whether there are other cases of someone leaving a publishing house because it published their rival/enemy.
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 5 March 2020 03:37 (four years ago) link
They've backed down
BREAKING: In a statement, Hachette Book Group has announced that it will not publish Woody Allen’s memoir 'A Propos of Nothing, originally scheduled for sale in April 2020, and will return all rights to the author. Our story is forthcoming.— Publishers Weekly (@PublishersWkly) March 6, 2020
― Alba, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:07 (four years ago) link
Little, Brown editors staged a walkout out over it I saw on Twitter
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link
interview w/ one of the employees who walked out:
https://slate.com/culture/2020/03/woody-allen-memoir-hachette-little-brown-walkout.html
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
Obviously Hachette’s behavior is unethical. That’s why it was hidden like the shameful little deal it was. But it’s also very stupid! One reason: there is more reporting (not from Ronan) coming on Woody Allen. Hachette is aware of this. https://t.co/7Vy238BtNF— Jon Lovett (@jonlovett) March 5, 2020
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
Do you see any value in publishing the book?I do not. Perhaps [ Allen ] still has fans, but I don’t think any of that matters in the slightest considering the things he’s been accused of doing.
I do not. Perhaps [ Allen ] still has fans, but I don’t think any of that matters in the slightest considering the things he’s been accused of doing.
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
perhaps
also three posts above itt tbf
matters in the slightest considering the things he’s been accused of doing
yikes
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link
oh wait no, derp
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link
😎
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link
Wooooow I didn't realize that the deal was done ages ago and the PHYSICAL BOOKS are probably already printed and *in a warehouse* somewhere and are now going to have to be scrapped. I worked at Hachette for 10 years and I worked on some projects with levels of secrecy (Twilight related, mostly), and this whole thing had to involve A LOT OF PEOPLE from the publisher down to the pressmen. Fucking a.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
I've always enjoyed "pulping" as a term of art
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
It's just so amazingly...STUPID. How do all the people who need to approve something like this make a mistake of this magnitude and not realize it's a moral and PR NIGHTMARE?
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
oh they realized that's why they kept it secret
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
they must've been like "this sucks and we'll take flack for it but maybe we'll make lots of money anyway!"
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link
Yes, the secrecy PROVES THE POINT!! It's incredible. I haven't worked there for a while so idk what's going on but I can only imagine that a LOT of pressure must have been applied somewhere to overcome the better judgement of at least some of the top level staff who would have needed to be in on this.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
countdown to Jeffrey Wells 'Khmer Rouge wokester' post in 5 4 3 2 1
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link
fwiw i understand the PR necessities
i remain agnostic on Allen's guilt and am a fan of his work, but if there is new evidence i'll listen (don't at me)
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
and here it is as predicted
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2020/03/victory-for-obstinate-wokester-bullies/
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link
also io, can u get me a job at h4ch3tte?
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link
They weren't too happy with me when I left there and that was like 7+ years ago, so I doubt it. :(((((
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
an Associate Vice President or three is about to be fired so you might find an opening xp
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
im not that seniorish
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link
i actually applied online for a job there last month *crickets*
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link
I am undecided about all of this. It would have been better to have knowledge about what's in the book before judging the deal, but I also understand why that's not possible. He may have admitted to some things in the book, or, more likely, he may have lied about his past to further his career.
I thought his writings in the New Yorker in the early 2000s were garbage.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 6 March 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link
he may have lied about his past to further his career.
How do you further your career at 84, when none of your remaining films will be released in America?
Didn't read any 21st century pieces, but his first two collections of humor pieces are good (c 1968-73), as is the later story "The Kugelmass Episode."
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:22 (four years ago) link
also none of this week's brouhaha has to do with what might/could be in the book. nuthin'.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:24 (four years ago) link
he probably wanted the advance so he could provide for his daughter wife
― college bong rip guy (silby), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:24 (four years ago) link
"The Kugelmass Episode" is a masterpiece. I read it in a short story anthology in the early '90s.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:26 (four years ago) link
whah ha ha, my sides xp
srsly he's a creep, but they've been married for 23 years
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:28 (four years ago) link
23 years of . . . really something
― mookieproof, Saturday, 7 March 2020 06:03 (four years ago) link
plus 5 years before marriage
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 06:37 (four years ago) link
I've not seen many of his C21st films, but went to Midnight In Paris with a longtime friend who, like me, had once been a bigger fan. Half an hour in I turned to her and whispered "omg did you know this was a Kugelmass Episode riff?" and she nodded gleefully
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Saturday, 7 March 2020 07:03 (four years ago) link
buyable in the US
https://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781951627348/apropos-of-nothing/
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link
When Woody is now basically claiming Mia Farrow molested Ronan, I feel fine calling him a pedophile rapist forever from here on.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link
Never Believe Men
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link
A guy I know interviewed the woman who picked up the book.
“It was really about freedom of speech,” Seaver told JI. “The idea that a corporation or a powerful, wonderful publishing house would simply drop a world-known, great artist because they don’t agree with whatever. It just was unacceptable to me.”
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 13:03 (four years ago) link
'great artist'... Can't be beastly to the great artists, no? We need to here their unfounded accusations that their ex-girlfriend molested their kid. Think of the artists!
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
In his book, does Woody Allen explain how he has been unable to direct an even halfway decent movie for a quarter century now? Because if he does, then I'll give it a read.
― coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:19 (four years ago) link
Those awful censorious publishers who won't publish my short story collection are violating the First Amendment!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:21 (four years ago) link
It's so insane that this was supposed to come out with the publisher that publishes Ronan Farrow. The book claims his mother molested him! Insinuating that he must have been fucked up by that. Aaaaand Ronan was supposed to stay silent over that, because of 'free speech'? It's perverse.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
Journalists have an incredibly blinkered, bothsides-ist idea of "free speech". You say something - someone else says something 100% opposed to it - everyone has free speech! Yay!
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
Never Believe Men― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:41 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:41 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
we're through the looking glass here people
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
xp wait, what would a none "bothsides-ist" idea of free speech be?
― soref, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link
youre reading my intent correctly i'm sure xp
planning to rewatch Zelig this week
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link
I'm really not watching any Woody Allen now. But also after reading the Moses Farrow article last year I think I'll give Mia a miss too. There are plenty of other films to watch and other books to read.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
yeah, it's not like these are the first allegations against mia. the whole situation is sordid and confusing. better not to get involved
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link