bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

not jesus but

.. the same initials

.. as Julian Cope.

Thornberry trashing the Labour manifesto in the Torygraph is it? very credible and inspiring way to run a leadership campaign and win the membership over.

Lads how are we not discussing Jolyon Windmill’s epic bedshitting this cold St Stephen’s Day morning? He’s trending on twitter!

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— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) December 26, 2019

Norfolk Windmill!

Prince Andrew Jolyon
🤝
Unlikely clubbing anecdote

— Noah Reelman (@NKreelman) December 26, 2019

Look a homeowner has the right to protect themself from baseball bat-wielding foxes

Norfolk Windmill!🕸

when over 10 million people vote for you but Dan Jarvis thinks you need to talk to the people

I wouldn't mind but isn't he the Sheffield regional mayor these days? Seeing as that (not including Barsnley obv) it is probably the most progressive/lefty region of Yorkshire these days (or at least I thoought it was). It looks like he is hoping to be dragged reluctantly into the competition by his legions of supporters, which isn't happening cos I think even many on the right know he's a dunce!

He’s an anvil-headed weirdo.

The discrimination & prejudice suffered by Gypsy, Roma & Traveller communities is commonplace. We cannot let this stand. We have to organise ourselves to defend all people under attack from this Government. https://t.co/gEfZX2GS7X

— Laura Pidcock (@LauraPidcock) December 26, 2019

Essentially "listen to the people" is the new legitimate concerns, the claim that Labour must sacrifice all policy decisions to a notional white cis-het hardworking base

It's a cross-class alliance! Of..... racists!

Would genuinely love for Jarvis to throw his hat into the ring just to deflate some of the hot air around him.

The magnitude of Labour's defeat will permanently splinter the Corbyn coalition. The core component will back RLB, but she won't carry the LRC/JVL/pro-Williamson hardcore, and Lewis will eat some softer support. The job is Starmer's to lose.

— David Osland (@David__Osland) December 26, 2019

Think he is relying on older memories here, we'll see. My reckoning is that rlb will carry it because of the pact with Rayner.

a labourlist poll (which previously was accurate about "Corbynmania") has it roughly 50/50 split between Starmer/RLB so far. Getting ready to burn that card!

but that could rapidly change because RLB hasn't even broke cover yet.

If Starmer was the new leader that would be the end of the line for me. Initially I had some pretty facile misgivings on him, admittedly (based on his hairstyle and title). But now I've caught up on his recent history I've realised he's a class 'a' cunt and a class enemy!

I wanna cautiously say that Starmer need not be a disaster nor offer succour to melts, but I'm not sure why and my natural instinct is closer to calz's.

There's absolutely no certainty that the next Labour leader is the leader for the next general election.

We will need to see debate perf + yes, whoever is leader may not be so next election.

That he campaigned as DPP for low end benefit fraudsters to get 10 year sentences says gulags to me.

I will ask him about that when I see him, deserves interrogation at the very least.

To be consistent because I don't think it's about personalities I can accept Starmer as leader if he competently maintains the direction of travel and the party continues to push policies of meaningful economic change. We don't know what his platform is yet. Yes the DPP stuff was a bullshit appeal in the style of New Labour. He may have learned and changed.

A financial threshold which prevented benefit fraud cases of less than £20,000 from being sent to crown court will also be abolished, the CPS said.

Mr Starmer said: “It is a myth that 'getting one over on the system' is a victimless crime: the truth is we all pay the price”.

He added: “It is vital that we take a tough stance on this type of fraud and I am determined to see a clampdown on those who flout the system.“

that's going beyond Blairite brain worms!

only six years ago

Sadiq Khan's Christmas Homeless thing on Christmas Eve annoys me for hard-to-explain reasons, partly because as far as I can tell he's not mentioned that past this 100 people getting a good meal and a haircut, there's Crisis, an organisation that's been doing this for thousands of people for 30 years, including help getting into jobs and housing. I mean, I'm in theory happy that government is doing this rather than a charity, and there's 100 people with a meal and some care, but it seems kind of superficial.

I would point out that that was a previous job, prior to entering politics. A bit how defence lawyers have to defend evil people.

A bit. Not a lot, just to hedge slightly.

do mean like melting .. perhaps?

Go on, I'm wrong aren't I?

how is politics divisible from your job though and especially such a high profile job as DPP? Do you just get a clean slate when you enter politics? do you fuck.

"I want to lock up poor people" doesn't exactly inspire confidence in his claims towards the soft left.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMyAhFMXUAEn-nT?format=jpg&name=small

I never realised there was a time when Hodge was so warm and friendly towards Corbyn.. bloody hell.

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— Erroneous Monk (@consol8ion) December 27, 2019

slanderous abuse of John Shuttleworth

i’ve always thought turtlenecks put the wearer at the risk of looking like a circumcised penis and i’ve never felt more vindicated

kill me

https://i.redd.it/pj04fn4q17741.jpg

two public school kids, they'll get on great

Starmer definitely made a decision about priorities there didn't he. In theory, benefit fraud is wrong and bad! - but when you know the extent of tax evasion by rich wankers, it becomes kind of impossible to care about benefit fraud ime. I don't.

in civilised countries they write off low level benefit fraud because it saves money in the long run. Like the PIP reforms it is being vindictive at a cost - which is the style of the tories in this era, but apparently he's not a tory.

How much is the court costs etc in pursuing sub £20k benefit fraud cases?

And time spent too, getting a load of people in who could be doing something more worthwhile

it's the timing as well that is abysmal - he did this just as the first major tranches of Universal Credit were going to be rolled out.

fucking hell, I missed that IDS got a knighthood, and now I have thrown several large household appliances through an internal wall

or, to tie it into the Starmer convo (everyone otm, having some Swinson Effect symptoms re Starmer i.e. the more you learn about them...)

Iain Duncan Smith is knighted for implementing DWP policies described as systematic human rights violations by the United Nations https://t.co/ACp0POjpcs

— jacob richardson (@jjarichardson) December 27, 2019

Starmer is probably still the second best of the viable candidates at this stage, which highlights how little depth there is in the PLP.

And they know it too - that’s why he was asked to stand in 2015, weeks after he was first elected!

Lisa Nandos going out talking to deranged old gammon and pulling concerned faces and pretending it's 2010 again and Clive Lewis with some sensible ideas but not a sensible track record are not really serious options.

I’m reading that Tom Watson interview (link here if you hate yourself too), and like:

You sense Watson could talk for hours, possibly days.