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TS Eliot would have liked Cats (2019 film) says his estate

Eliot himself, she said, would probably have approved. “We know he would have liked the lines because he wrote them. Then, he loved dance … his nickname at Harvard was Elbows Eliot, he loved dance so much. He also used to go to musical theatre all the time with [his wife] Valerie. So I can’t see how he wouldn’t have liked it, with all those things he loved being in one film. I think he would have had a sense of humour about it, he was very open-minded, he liked having his head blown. He was an unusual person and this is such an unusual thing.”

Reihill acknowledged that “there’s always been so much derision about the musical and that’s carried over to the film” and that “seeing Judi Dench’s face covered in fur is going to startle you, of course”.

But she said that Eliot’s widow Valerie “loved the musical and she knew him so well … If you take all those things he loved, they’re all in the film, and I like to imagine him sitting in the cinema with a smile on his face,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/dec/19/ts-eliot-would-not-have-minded-cats-reviews-says-his-estate

soref, Friday, 20 December 2019 18:59 (six years ago)

I think it's fair to say that anyone who died prior to the advent of shitty CGI and who has subsequently been made aware of the existence of shitty CGI (by like say a psychic medium or the ghost of a latter-day decedent who described in vivid detail that one infamous scene with the Scorpion King) is thankful that they never had to experience shitty CGI with their own living eyes.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:45 (six years ago)

Which is to posit that a miraculously-resurrected Eliot who bore witness to this celluloid abortion would likely scoop his eyes out of his skull in a fit of abject horror for what has become of humanity.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:47 (six years ago)

We lost our minds when the train cat exploded into dust pic.twitter.com/dsXcvOmhVx

— Kevin T. Porter (@KevinTPorter) December 20, 2019

genuinely stoked to see this now tbh

Simon H., Friday, 20 December 2019 19:50 (six years ago)

I think I'm gonna wait and see how many Razzies it wins. I mean I expect at least two but if it clinches four or more I'm totally there.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:53 (six years ago)

if you wait that long it might already have been shamed out of theaters

Simon H., Friday, 20 December 2019 19:54 (six years ago)

"He was an unusual person and this is such an unusual thing”

^^^this is also why i will like it and also why you sad normies are missing out iirc

mark s, Friday, 20 December 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

I need to know that it's elicited Lonely Lady levels of excoriation before I plunk down my hard-earned money.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

I assume because of the season, I've been seeing a lot of images from the Grinch movie popping up lately. This movie is giving off very similar 'how could anyone involved who wasn't heavily intoxicated for the entire span of its production ever have thought this was anything but an irrefutable denunciation of the human act of creativity' vibes.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:00 (six years ago)

if all the dollar/discount theaters in my area hadnt gone out of business this would 100% be a classic postholiday hangover cheapo matinee

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:01 (six years ago)

I wager that it's best experienced via bootleg download projected from an iPhone onto an alley wall.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:11 (six years ago)

Train cat has me puriently wanting a starlight express adaptation with the same direction and cgi tech. What could go wrong.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:12 (six years ago)

^^^this is also why i will like it and also why you sad normies are missing out iirc


saving this post for future reference

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:13 (six years ago)

Prognosticating about which terrible films will actually be fun and palatable despite their terribleness is, at best, an imprecise art.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:16 (six years ago)

This film comes 37 years after the stage megahit. Surely a record?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

next s&s "greatest films" round-up is in 2022, time to topple vertigo

will zizek have also pencilled it in?

mark s, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:28 (six years ago)

xpost I'm pretty sure the 2015 film was the first adaptation of 1897's stage smash Daddy, Won't You Buy Me a Hoop and Stick? Oh, Say You Will, Daddy Dearest!

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:32 (six years ago)

i really miss dollar theaters

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:57 (six years ago)

used to be a dollar place near me that offered "the big deal" a couple days a week - ticket, drink, and popcorn for 4 bucks. the gas to drive there & back was the most expensive part of the evening.

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Friday, 20 December 2019 21:32 (six years ago)

Matinee at my local place is $6 for anything before 6pm, weekends included.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 December 2019 22:25 (six years ago)

Saw it...

...liked it!

So look basically you have about one, two minutes at the start to get used to what this is out of the gate. My theory is that if you buy that the rest happens — you buy the Lloyd Webber, you buy Holland’s direction, you buy the CGI, or you just don’t. And it was all surprisingly very easy to buy. After that everything just flowed as it should. Trust me I’m surprised too.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 December 2019 06:19 (six years ago)

great take

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Saturday, 21 December 2019 07:44 (six years ago)

have yet to see this because a) I generally can't deal with Cats b) I think I've reached the age where "Memory" starts hitting a little close to home, and I'd rather not confront that just yet

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 21 December 2019 08:39 (six years ago)

can't be worse than the phantom movie was though

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 21 December 2019 08:40 (six years ago)

Ben Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms, yo.

☮ (peace, man), Saturday, 21 December 2019 14:23 (six years ago)

My son went to see this yesterday for the lulz and he was still a gibbering traumatised mess when I saw him two hours later, apparently at least one small child was taken out crying mid-picture

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 December 2019 14:26 (six years ago)

Still kinda disappointed this isn't Tobe Hooper's Cats

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 December 2019 14:28 (six years ago)

That's what I keep thinking when I see his name too.

☮ (peace, man), Saturday, 21 December 2019 14:31 (six years ago)

can't have been worse...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 21 December 2019 21:30 (six years ago)

https://s9.rr.itc.cn/r/wapChange/201611_8_20/a8rq0c2240676214188.jpg

mark s, Saturday, 21 December 2019 21:36 (six years ago)

"mmmeeeeeeeeemorieeeeeeeeees...."

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 21 December 2019 22:07 (six years ago)

Latest Dailies

Fri Dec 20
Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker $90,000,000
Jumanji: The Next Level $7,100,000
Frozen II $3,300,000
Cats $2,620,000
Bombshell $1,830,000

omar little, Saturday, 21 December 2019 22:23 (six years ago)

I kinda liked it! I’ve never been a musical theater person so I didn’t know the songs or the characters or even what the hell was going on but it was weird and colorful and never boring

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 December 2019 01:04 (six years ago)

the entire legacy of this show in my world is David Letterman's rendition of that song

Meeeeednight
And the kit-ties are sleeeeeping

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 December 2019 01:25 (six years ago)

lmao morbs i hate to tell you this but this is 100% true for me as well

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 22 December 2019 02:38 (six years ago)

I just think that critics don't 'get' musical theatre. Audience score is 62% at RT which isn't great but isn't terrible.

piscesx, Sunday, 22 December 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

plenty of ok musical theatre gets ok reviews

this doesn't seem that

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 December 2019 11:41 (six years ago)

audiences don't necessarily get musical theatre either, hence the popularity of the terrible not-really-musical-theatre Greatest Showman

don't get me wrong i still really want to see this car crash but it's not even a great stage show

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 December 2019 11:43 (six years ago)

starlight express is the only good musical

bcz the trains fuck

mark s, Sunday, 22 December 2019 11:45 (six years ago)

https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/DD0woFSXoAAJqhS.jpg

mark s, Sunday, 22 December 2019 11:45 (six years ago)

CGI Starlight Express must be built

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 December 2019 11:45 (six years ago)

Was trying to explain to a group of 20-something’s what starlight express was. Didn’t go well

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 22 December 2019 11:49 (six years ago)

I’d much rather see this than star wars

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:05 (six years ago)

abuse your ears in your chosen way

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 December 2019 13:06 (six years ago)

FWIW, "Greatest Showman" on Rotten Tomatoes is currently 56% critics, 86% audience. "Cats" (for now) is 19% critics, 62% audience.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 December 2019 14:05 (six years ago)

Cats has been a punchline in the musical theatre community for decades.

I'm kinda shocked the audience score is that high but I had one group of friends who went purely to gawk at the trainwreck so...maybe that accounts for it?

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 December 2019 14:25 (six years ago)

tag yrself i'm a jellicle critic

mark s, Sunday, 22 December 2019 14:28 (six years ago)

It just keeps getting worse for Universal / Amblin / Working Title’s Cats, with business now down to $7.6M in fourth place for the weekend, well below the $15M that tracking was seeing. More injury: CinemaScore audiences pronounced the movie dead with a C+ to go along with its awfully updated PostTrak exits of 2 stars. Word is that there’s advance ticket sales for Christmas Day, but Cats isn’t looking like The Greatest Showman, which despite its slow start of $8.8M over three days and $19M over six days mushroomed to $174.3M stateside off an A CinemaScore.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 December 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

ppl who show up at Cats are predisposed to like it

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 December 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

:D

This isn’t a joke: CATS was rushed into theaters before being finished so a new version is being sent to theaters with updated effects. How do you know if you have the old version? Look for Judi Dench’s human hand, wedding ring and all. pic.twitter.com/VDUOevePU9

— Jenelle Riley (@jenelleriley) December 22, 2019

piscesx, Sunday, 22 December 2019 15:28 (six years ago)


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