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Yes.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:23 (six years ago)

Milking it as usual the big milk dud.

nashwan, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

he leaves behind him a....yawning? vast? hole in the discourse

Simon H., Friday, 20 December 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

Lol:

Six Labour MPs defied the party whip to vote with the Government on the Brexit bill.

There were no Tory rebels.https://t.co/ZIhrBvIIU5 pic.twitter.com/p6DYPruemn

— Mirror Politics (@MirrorPolitics) December 20, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY0N8ApcUMc

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

That said, sections of the left of the party deciding that the only three good MPs are RLB, Dawn Butler and The Ace With The Mace doesn’t particularly bode well for the future either,

― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 20 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

I know what you mean but there is a lot riding on the next leader. Ideally one that is open to the grassroots, can do open selection. A few years to re-make Labour at PLP and council level.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:32 (six years ago)

Nice rallying call from Alex Sobel
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/20/labour-rebuilding-communities-tory-cuts

nashwan, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

My only bit of good cheer

1 week ago this man decided to send me hate-filled racist abuse.

Today he’s sent me an apology because he’s been fired from work.

Lesson: don’t mess with this 16 year-old. pic.twitter.com/M4YJm8u0vr

— Hasan Patel 🌹 (@CorbynistaTeen) December 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:40 (six years ago)

Xps agreed - and the fact that there is so much riding on the next leader reflects how much work there is to be done to decentralise decision-making, etc. However, I think that case stands up on its own merits and RLB can win over the membership. Going full attack dog against Starmer, Lewis, Thornberry, et al, when they’re the kind of people who have shown a willingness to work with the left, and will probably have to again if there is going to be a full shadow cabinet, seems unnecessary and counterproductive.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 20 December 2019 15:43 (six years ago)

Your probably right, but I don't think the fear that some of these lot would stop at nothing to back to 2015 is not completely irrational. Although lol Ace with Mace is a bit of a tool tbf and a credible shadow cabinet will have to include some melts.

calzino, Friday, 20 December 2019 16:02 (six years ago)

I haven't seen full attack dog. It could be a reaction to the right's attacks since the 12th, what I've seen on twitter are people trying to make the membership aware of Starmer's record, or of how someone like Lewis could get the leadership into deep water.

Like to think everyone is thick skinned enough to dust themselves off after the contest and work with RLB in a shadow cabinet xp

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 16:03 (six years ago)

The end-of-year @timesredbox really is a treat 🎄🎁🎅 https://t.co/VW4bG0Cx1q pic.twitter.com/aCuD1Z2phc

— Esther Webber (@estwebber) December 20, 2019

reasons to be cheerful ...

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:59 (six years ago)

grim grim grim

are you... fuckin... serious.... with this https://t.co/F0CKdiqvpv

— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) December 21, 2019



his sister in law is a Labour MP

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 21 December 2019 09:00 (six years ago)

hislop letting the mask slip there

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 21 December 2019 09:40 (six years ago)

hignfy did brexit the slide into the full-spectrum mainstreaming of fascism

mark s, Saturday, 21 December 2019 09:51 (six years ago)

say what u like about the fascists but they’re famously good at comedy

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:03 (six years ago)

Brooker still breathing? that's a pity.

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:21 (six years ago)

I see Times is doing RLB puts a Stalinist in charge of her leadership campaign today. Another ringing endorsement for the UK's very own AOC.

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:25 (six years ago)

hislop letting the mask slip there

What mask?

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:50 (six years ago)

You could say this is the least of anyone's worries but RLB's supporters also appalled the campaign so far consists of behind-the-scenes briefings. She hasn't been interviewed or made a speech or tweeted since the election

— Esther Webber (@estwebber) December 21, 2019

This is good not bad.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:57 (six years ago)

lol one of the people from my football forum is in the replies to that

fyi he and i are enemies in a manner that makes my weekly sat morning scrap with alphie look like the book group it is

imago, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:10 (six years ago)

well yeah, if only RLB would write some bullshit op-ed in the very newspaper that spent 3 years trashing the last leader. yes, I'm appalled!

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:11 (six years ago)

i still want an rlb greatest hits video reel - i haven't seen her talk very often! does she have a sense of humour and does she sound natural when questioned etc. these shouldn't have to be considerations in a perfect, purely policy-driven world, but they are

imago, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:14 (six years ago)

right away sir

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:15 (six years ago)

I've never attended a book group imago, but sure.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:15 (six years ago)

You’d enjoy my book group, comrade alphabet, it’s a bad one if there isn’t a fight!

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:22 (six years ago)

All news is local, all politics is local. pic.twitter.com/mqEGJwc7hp

— Scott Reid 🔍 (@scottreid1980) December 20, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

You mess with the bowlers of West of Scotland at your peril.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:33 (six years ago)

When my uncle died last year, the reception was held at his local bowling club in Kilmarnock - my aunt and my cousin are serious bowlers - and it was like travelling back to the 70s, including the bar prices! Ayshire working class Presbyterian through and through, all the older guys walking around in club blazers, and even though I'm forever slagging off Ayrshire, those people were fucking great, friendly and funny and really sharp. Anyway, all sorts of fears were being expressed about the future of the bowling club and talk of having to recruit young people as members, so I imagine it won't be around in a few years time.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:46 (six years ago)

Looks like Momentum Thugs are out and Stalinists are in? For post election coverage

anvil, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:50 (six years ago)

In general we need to be better in understanding that words and their underlying meanings are only loosely connected, and that the last few years have stretched the link between the two into new forms. Calling Jess Phillips a centrist is the behaviour of also rans. Calling Jess Phillips a Stalinist is what winners do, you gotta mix it up

anvil, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:55 (six years ago)

We're too tied to the literal meanings of words rather than the emotive meanings of them

anvil, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:56 (six years ago)

there is a widely mocked branch of the humanities that has been analysing this gap for about 50 years iirc

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 December 2019 12:12 (six years ago)

there was something profoundly sad when 10 years ago my partner's dad died and nobody wanted his bowling trophies and they all went in the skip:(

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 12:13 (six years ago)

I've read two volumes of Kotkin's Stalin biography - so in a fashion I'm a Stalinist myself!

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 12:16 (six years ago)

If more people realised the dictatorship of the proletariat would have hislop and brooker shot, then there wouldn't be negative associations with "stalinism"

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 12:22 (six years ago)

Everything about Ayrshire bowling clubs is minted except the bowling

stet, Saturday, 21 December 2019 12:37 (six years ago)

another Norman conquest import.

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 12:46 (six years ago)

Source close to Alex Halligan tells me: “He’s not a Stalinist. He is a mainstream socialist. And he’s not running Becky’s leadership campaign - it’s unclear who is at the moment. That will be worked out in time.”

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 12:50 (six years ago)

Henry VIII, himself a bowler, in 1511 banned the sport among the lower classes and levied a fee of 100 pounds on any private bowling green to ensure that only the wealthy could play.

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 12:54 (six years ago)

Literally nothing to add today other than: this was Lindsay Hoyle and his parrot on BBC Breakfast this morning. pic.twitter.com/YOyEKt2o42

— 🎄Leia Murray🎄 (@leiamurr) December 21, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:03 (six years ago)

the Puritan revolution virtually ended all sports in England, and lawn bowling did not make much of a comeback even with the Restoration of 1660.The sport flourished in Scotland

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:06 (six years ago)

Skwarkbox is probably toast, which is no great loss, as Anna Turley won her libel action against them and Unite.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:09 (six years ago)

Canary also needs to go.

This is a thoughtful tweet on RLB (rather than brainless 'convince me'). Reckon she will do it anyway but it's good to make sure they don't go to Starmer, say.

I have nothing against RLB really and I'd be happy with her as leader. I need to know I'm not just getting Milne/Murphy/Murray and more years of the party being totally dominated in a Unite/Momentum gentleman's agreement.

If she can get breadth, then people like me are winnable.

— Tom Miller (@TomMillerUK) December 20, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:14 (six years ago)

lost a seat, won a libel action - swings and roundabouts. pity The Canary didn't run with it as well.

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

the Puritan revolution virtually ended all sports in England, and lawn bowling did not make much of a comeback even with the Restoration of 1660.The sport flourished in Scotland

When I come to think of it, not only was there a bowling green where I latterly grew up - in a bog standard 60s/70s housing estate - but where we lived before that there was fuck off giant bowling club at the end of our street.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

Bowling is big on the east coast too. There are days of the week my dealer is unavailable because he’s playing bowls.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:38 (six years ago)

It was kind of my point. JCB (of Johnson's election photo opportunity fame) having been a major local employer that partly filled in the gap after the mines shut. Paternalistic and deeply anti-union, they have had a strong influence on the local culture.

— Susan (@susan1878) December 21, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:51 (six years ago)

Luke Pagarani's tweet thread from last week has become a Guardian short read
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/21/labour-older-voters-corbyn-local-socialism

nashwan, Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:58 (six years ago)

Bowling in the East: I don’t live in Scone anymore but growing up there were two bowling greens in the village, the main one in the park with a very busy social club (think my parents were members briefly at one point but never bowled) and another one tucked away a few streets away.

There’s one in a village down the road from where I live now but can’t vouch for its liveliness.

michaellambert, Saturday, 21 December 2019 14:03 (six years ago)


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