bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

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oh come on, there's absolutely zero chance of him doing that - who the hell is reporting it? (Though agree with your earlier point that he doesn't have to worry about the ERG any more.)

Fizzles, Friday, 20 December 2019 13:44 (six years ago)

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-boris-johnson-downing-street-officials-negotiations_uk_5dfb57f3e4b01834791c02a8

Sorry 'Brexit' as a word.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 13:55 (six years ago)

i think that’s about the narrative of brexit having been “done” - if people keep using the word for another year his promises will sound hollow. makes sense.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 December 2019 13:58 (six years ago)

He'll need a compliant media for that

anvil, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:02 (six years ago)

christ alive, i hope this isn't indicative of your festive conversation later in the pub. xpost.

Fizzles, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:02 (six years ago)

Guess what XP to anvil

Nah I'll be good.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:02 (six years ago)

speaking of compliant media

“The right candidate could get a good reception in the press” https://t.co/PDzIjxOUKu

— Hold the line, love isn’t always on time 🌹 (@JosieLong) December 20, 2019

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 December 2019 14:11 (six years ago)

also lol at 'the telegraph used to be a decent news organisation'

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 December 2019 14:12 (six years ago)

Yep. New Statesman / Cowley going for the double by trashing RLB and Starmer too.

That said, sections of the left of the party deciding that the only three good MPs are RLB, Dawn Butler and The Ace With The Mace doesn’t particularly bode well for the future either,

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 20 December 2019 14:16 (six years ago)

from what I can tell Johnson is totally dancing to the ERG tune but perhaps I missed something (likely, for my health)

nashwan, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:16 (six years ago)

look on the bright side tho lads prince philip is probably gonna die as a special xmas treat for our beleagured nation

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 December 2019 14:19 (six years ago)

Quick, hound SV off the thread! ;)

imago, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

Boris already trouncing his promises I notice. Great stuff

imago, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

christ alive, i hope this isn't indicative of your festive conversation later in the pub. xpost.


lol

glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 20 December 2019 14:27 (six years ago)

https://members.tortoisemedia.com/2019/12/20/camerons-legacy/content.html?sig=D5_xJV6nHmSrvOFRzqIkHSu2Co3ae0EQo1od3HPzN_k

even though we're all going to die lol.. at least you can enjoy this piece that posits that Cameron was such a useless empty-headed dim cunt that didn't understand UK 20th century or the EU - that the odds are it will be a while before we see another as useless a PM as this cunt was!

calzino, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:27 (six years ago)

You’re a man of real political courage and integrity, Mike. Always have been. If only some others could say the same.

— David Aaronovitch (@DAaronovitch) December 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:18 (six years ago)

Good luck for the future Mike. And thanks for your public service.

— Prof. Colin Talbot (@colinrtalbot) December 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

Gapesy is like a beacon of hope in these dark times.

calzino, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:21 (six years ago)

Is he retiring from public life or something?

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2019 15:23 (six years ago)

Yes.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:23 (six years ago)

Milking it as usual the big milk dud.

nashwan, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

he leaves behind him a....yawning? vast? hole in the discourse

Simon H., Friday, 20 December 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

Lol:

Six Labour MPs defied the party whip to vote with the Government on the Brexit bill.

There were no Tory rebels.https://t.co/ZIhrBvIIU5 pic.twitter.com/p6DYPruemn

— Mirror Politics (@MirrorPolitics) December 20, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY0N8ApcUMc

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

That said, sections of the left of the party deciding that the only three good MPs are RLB, Dawn Butler and The Ace With The Mace doesn’t particularly bode well for the future either,

― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 20 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

I know what you mean but there is a lot riding on the next leader. Ideally one that is open to the grassroots, can do open selection. A few years to re-make Labour at PLP and council level.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:32 (six years ago)

Nice rallying call from Alex Sobel
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/20/labour-rebuilding-communities-tory-cuts

nashwan, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

My only bit of good cheer

1 week ago this man decided to send me hate-filled racist abuse.

Today he’s sent me an apology because he’s been fired from work.

Lesson: don’t mess with this 16 year-old. pic.twitter.com/M4YJm8u0vr

— Hasan Patel 🌹 (@CorbynistaTeen) December 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:40 (six years ago)

Xps agreed - and the fact that there is so much riding on the next leader reflects how much work there is to be done to decentralise decision-making, etc. However, I think that case stands up on its own merits and RLB can win over the membership. Going full attack dog against Starmer, Lewis, Thornberry, et al, when they’re the kind of people who have shown a willingness to work with the left, and will probably have to again if there is going to be a full shadow cabinet, seems unnecessary and counterproductive.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 20 December 2019 15:43 (six years ago)

Your probably right, but I don't think the fear that some of these lot would stop at nothing to back to 2015 is not completely irrational. Although lol Ace with Mace is a bit of a tool tbf and a credible shadow cabinet will have to include some melts.

calzino, Friday, 20 December 2019 16:02 (six years ago)

I haven't seen full attack dog. It could be a reaction to the right's attacks since the 12th, what I've seen on twitter are people trying to make the membership aware of Starmer's record, or of how someone like Lewis could get the leadership into deep water.

Like to think everyone is thick skinned enough to dust themselves off after the contest and work with RLB in a shadow cabinet xp

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2019 16:03 (six years ago)

The end-of-year @timesredbox really is a treat 🎄🎁🎅 https://t.co/VW4bG0Cx1q pic.twitter.com/aCuD1Z2phc

— Esther Webber (@estwebber) December 20, 2019

reasons to be cheerful ...

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:59 (six years ago)

grim grim grim

are you... fuckin... serious.... with this https://t.co/F0CKdiqvpv

— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) December 21, 2019



his sister in law is a Labour MP

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 21 December 2019 09:00 (six years ago)

hislop letting the mask slip there

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 21 December 2019 09:40 (six years ago)

hignfy did brexit the slide into the full-spectrum mainstreaming of fascism

mark s, Saturday, 21 December 2019 09:51 (six years ago)

say what u like about the fascists but they’re famously good at comedy

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:03 (six years ago)

Brooker still breathing? that's a pity.

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:21 (six years ago)

I see Times is doing RLB puts a Stalinist in charge of her leadership campaign today. Another ringing endorsement for the UK's very own AOC.

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:25 (six years ago)

hislop letting the mask slip there

What mask?

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:50 (six years ago)

You could say this is the least of anyone's worries but RLB's supporters also appalled the campaign so far consists of behind-the-scenes briefings. She hasn't been interviewed or made a speech or tweeted since the election

— Esther Webber (@estwebber) December 21, 2019

This is good not bad.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 December 2019 10:57 (six years ago)

lol one of the people from my football forum is in the replies to that

fyi he and i are enemies in a manner that makes my weekly sat morning scrap with alphie look like the book group it is

imago, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:10 (six years ago)

well yeah, if only RLB would write some bullshit op-ed in the very newspaper that spent 3 years trashing the last leader. yes, I'm appalled!

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:11 (six years ago)

i still want an rlb greatest hits video reel - i haven't seen her talk very often! does she have a sense of humour and does she sound natural when questioned etc. these shouldn't have to be considerations in a perfect, purely policy-driven world, but they are

imago, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:14 (six years ago)

right away sir

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:15 (six years ago)

I've never attended a book group imago, but sure.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:15 (six years ago)

You’d enjoy my book group, comrade alphabet, it’s a bad one if there isn’t a fight!

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:22 (six years ago)

All news is local, all politics is local. pic.twitter.com/mqEGJwc7hp

— Scott Reid 🔍 (@scottreid1980) December 20, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

You mess with the bowlers of West of Scotland at your peril.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:33 (six years ago)

When my uncle died last year, the reception was held at his local bowling club in Kilmarnock - my aunt and my cousin are serious bowlers - and it was like travelling back to the 70s, including the bar prices! Ayshire working class Presbyterian through and through, all the older guys walking around in club blazers, and even though I'm forever slagging off Ayrshire, those people were fucking great, friendly and funny and really sharp. Anyway, all sorts of fears were being expressed about the future of the bowling club and talk of having to recruit young people as members, so I imagine it won't be around in a few years time.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:46 (six years ago)

Looks like Momentum Thugs are out and Stalinists are in? For post election coverage

anvil, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:50 (six years ago)

In general we need to be better in understanding that words and their underlying meanings are only loosely connected, and that the last few years have stretched the link between the two into new forms. Calling Jess Phillips a centrist is the behaviour of also rans. Calling Jess Phillips a Stalinist is what winners do, you gotta mix it up

anvil, Saturday, 21 December 2019 11:55 (six years ago)


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