bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

amazing

capital fare

That is fantastic.

... though we never thought that we could lose there's no regrets.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/19/left-labour-michael-foot-tony-blair?

This is another one for the long-term trends bucket but too comforting when The Tories could win via voter suppression and re-drawing of the map next time or most times. Certainly a big part of canvassing will be to get everyone on voter id with efforts starting in early 2024.

The worst of this discourse is the tweets you see (Gopal yesterday) saying the old will die soon (she was probably responding to fash trolls) but people over 60 live for a long time so you could be looking at two election cycles of this, and who knows what the world will be like then.

tbf people over 60 live a long time under our current health system, who knows what will happen after our glorious no-deal crashout this time next year

Reckon it could still be customs union where we all get poorer more slowly. Boris can betray the ERG with his majority.

yeah, it's all to play for w/r/t how slowly the noose tightens

keep thinking about america pushing for no-deal in the leaked trade documents tho, feels bad man

Hope my fellow Americans throw the Republicans out of office in favour of a M4A candidate *gulps*

lol we're all gonna die uninsured

Bet the Tories try and rig it in three elections time by resurrecting the dead like in that Simpsons EP I watched when I was all young and innocent

the entirety of the tory manifesto, 2034

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.interestingengineering.com%2Fimages%2Fuploads%2Fsizes%2FToynbee-Tiles-FI_md.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

How's about an MPx4A candidate

Please join @UNISON_GSTT and @AngelaRayner in supporting the @SRTRC_England #wrd19 campaign. Please also buy me a comb pic.twitter.com/566tyLxruT

— UNISON GSTT (@UNISON_GSTT) June 19, 2019

Some reporting on how Johnson wants to drop Brexit. Almost like he doesn't want to own the consequences of this like he didn't want to own austerity either.

oh come on, there's absolutely zero chance of him doing that - who the hell is reporting it? (Though agree with your earlier point that he doesn't have to worry about the ERG any more.)

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-boris-johnson-downing-street-officials-negotiations_uk_5dfb57f3e4b01834791c02a8

Sorry 'Brexit' as a word.

i think that’s about the narrative of brexit having been “done” - if people keep using the word for another year his promises will sound hollow. makes sense.

He'll need a compliant media for that

christ alive, i hope this isn't indicative of your festive conversation later in the pub. xpost.

Guess what XP to anvil

Nah I'll be good.

speaking of compliant media

“The right candidate could get a good reception in the press” https://t.co/PDzIjxOUKu

— Hold the line, love isn’t always on time 🌹 (@JosieLong) December 20, 2019

also lol at 'the telegraph used to be a decent news organisation'

Yep. New Statesman / Cowley going for the double by trashing RLB and Starmer too.

That said, sections of the left of the party deciding that the only three good MPs are RLB, Dawn Butler and The Ace With The Mace doesn’t particularly bode well for the future either,

from what I can tell Johnson is totally dancing to the ERG tune but perhaps I missed something (likely, for my health)

look on the bright side tho lads prince philip is probably gonna die as a special xmas treat for our beleagured nation

Quick, hound SV off the thread! ;)

Boris already trouncing his promises I notice. Great stuff

christ alive, i hope this isn't indicative of your festive conversation later in the pub. xpost.

https://members.tortoisemedia.com/2019/12/20/camerons-legacy/content.html?sig=D5_xJV6nHmSrvOFRzqIkHSu2Co3ae0EQo1od3HPzN_k

even though we're all going to die lol.. at least you can enjoy this piece that posits that Cameron was such a useless empty-headed dim cunt that didn't understand UK 20th century or the EU - that the odds are it will be a while before we see another as useless a PM as this cunt was!

You’re a man of real political courage and integrity, Mike. Always have been. If only some others could say the same.

— David Aaronovitch (@DAaronovitch) December 19, 2019

Good luck for the future Mike. And thanks for your public service.

— Prof. Colin Talbot (@colinrtalbot) December 19, 2019

Gapesy is like a beacon of hope in these dark times.

Is he retiring from public life or something?

Yes.

Milking it as usual the big milk dud.

he leaves behind him a....yawning? vast? hole in the discourse

Lol:

Six Labour MPs defied the party whip to vote with the Government on the Brexit bill.

There were no Tory rebels.https://t.co/ZIhrBvIIU5 pic.twitter.com/p6DYPruemn

— Mirror Politics (@MirrorPolitics) December 20, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY0N8ApcUMc

That said, sections of the left of the party deciding that the only three good MPs are RLB, Dawn Butler and The Ace With The Mace doesn’t particularly bode well for the future either,

― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 20 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

I know what you mean but there is a lot riding on the next leader. Ideally one that is open to the grassroots, can do open selection. A few years to re-make Labour at PLP and council level.

Nice rallying call from Alex Sobel
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/20/labour-rebuilding-communities-tory-cuts

My only bit of good cheer

1 week ago this man decided to send me hate-filled racist abuse.

Today he’s sent me an apology because he’s been fired from work.

Lesson: don’t mess with this 16 year-old. pic.twitter.com/M4YJm8u0vr

— Hasan Patel 🌹 (@CorbynistaTeen) December 19, 2019

Xps agreed - and the fact that there is so much riding on the next leader reflects how much work there is to be done to decentralise decision-making, etc. However, I think that case stands up on its own merits and RLB can win over the membership. Going full attack dog against Starmer, Lewis, Thornberry, et al, when they’re the kind of people who have shown a willingness to work with the left, and will probably have to again if there is going to be a full shadow cabinet, seems unnecessary and counterproductive.

Your probably right, but I don't think the fear that some of these lot would stop at nothing to back to 2015 is not completely irrational. Although lol Ace with Mace is a bit of a tool tbf and a credible shadow cabinet will have to include some melts.

I haven't seen full attack dog. It could be a reaction to the right's attacks since the 12th, what I've seen on twitter are people trying to make the membership aware of Starmer's record, or of how someone like Lewis could get the leadership into deep water.

Like to think everyone is thick skinned enough to dust themselves off after the contest and work with RLB in a shadow cabinet xp

The end-of-year @timesredbox really is a treat 🎄🎁🎅 https://t.co/VW4bG0Cx1q pic.twitter.com/aCuD1Z2phc

— Esther Webber (@estwebber) December 20, 2019

reasons to be cheerful ...

grim grim grim

are you... fuckin... serious.... with this https://t.co/F0CKdiqvpv

— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) December 21, 2019

hislop letting the mask slip there

hignfy did brexit the slide into the full-spectrum mainstreaming of fascism

say what u like about the fascists but they’re famously good at comedy

Brooker still breathing? that's a pity.