2020 Democratic presidential primary

Yang’s promise to America: Cory Booker will come back

Martin Luther King’s message of a freedom dividend of $1000 a month

also i don't know who these ppl are so for all i know they were Ron Paul rEVOLution dorks in the past

can't locate the debate on hulu live but heard parts on the radio and everyone sounded great, even Yang. I don't even care anymore.

Did Yang just say that China is using facial recognition to detain protestors and we need to do it better?

Yep, although I think he did do on accident. He talked about how China is using AI in scary ways against their own people and then pivoted directly to “we need to leapfrog China in technology”

Yang said China has "more data" than we do. Has this man ever heard of the NSA? Does he know where Facebook and Google are headquartered? That's a bit like when Kennedy and Nixon invoked a phony "missile gap" to stir up fear of the USSR.

The crowd is really pumped about Biden's reluctance to serve 2 terms.

Warren finally taking some shots at Buttigieg.

Mayor Pete's Billionaires In Wine Caves

He's hitting right back! Fiiiiiight!

what I heard of biden sounded great, like he drank some coffee and decided to pay attention to shit this time.

Lotta Cave Talk...

Biden and Klobuchar are most improved so far

Bernie w/the Berns

Not a Yang fan, but I liked "we need to stop confusing economic value with human value."

Sanders’ transgender answer was really bad and unconvincing. I thought Warren’s response showed him up.

What are the biggest arguments against Yang? The technocrat thing is annoying but the same applies to just about everyone on stage

Bernie tried to shift questions about minority rights to a framing about capitalism multiple times to tepid applause. He's heating up though.

the hell is going on with this question

The biggest argument against Yang is that he’s an inexperienced rich guy

which is what we have now, though in Yang's defense, he is not an evil pile of shit

Are you sure?

YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAH

he is not an evil pile of shit

What is there in Yang's background that would lead you to believe he understands the lives of people with marginal assets and capabilities and why the policies that he imagines ought to improve their lives might fail, because his imagination is not sufficiently informed to include a real grasp of the margins of society?

It is that sort of unrecognized ignorance, acting boldly and confidently, that can create copious amounts of evil consequences without the person responsible for it even seeing what they have done. They just don't know any better. In Silicon Valley, all your abject failure does is throw a couple of thousand software engineers temporarily out of work. It doesn't irretrievably ruin the lives of tens of millions.

I always remember a guy I know who went to Silicon Valley and has been fairly successful once saying, during a conversation about education policy "It depends on what you want to optimize for." That's who Andrew Yang is to me, the guy who thinks he can "optimize" policy.

lol DJP

i missed most of the debate is there a place you can watch it after the fact

I told my friend I was messaging with "fuck that shit, I'm not watching" but then she convinced me to and I turned it on and it was Tom Steyer yammering about teamwork or something and I remembered why I said "fuck that shit"

all the candidates were great tonight, I'd vote for all of them, except for one and I'll tell ya who and that's Lisa Desjardins who had maybe one too many little beige balls floating near her mouth tonight which I don't think is very Presidential at all so she doesn't get to be President but I'll vote for all the other ones.

https://j.gifs.com/xny1Jl.gif

It’s a bad idea to listen to any of these people speaking, that’s how they get you

one too many little beige balls floating near her mouth ew

I like Andrew Yang. He would be really good in some other role that would only have to deal with policies within the US.

I suspect the Venn diagram of ppl who despise Yang and ppl who have had to personally work under a tech bro is a circle

i missed most of the debate is there a place you can watch it after the fact

― oncle rasélonguebite (crüt), Thursday, December 19, 2019 11:40 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

why in god’s name would you want to do this

I was gonna say. like escaping prison then giving the warden a call

one too many little beige balls floating near her mouth

no way to talk about a mayor imo

why does Yang always get categorized as a tech bro? are all start ups now considered 'silicon valley'.

bah. let me just google this.

I greatly detest Buttigieg’s affect

Also, Ryan Grim was offering up a running commentary during the show debunking some of the bullshit

Buttigieg enlisted in the military about a month before running for state treasurer

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) December 20, 2019

There hasn't been a Republican mayor of South Bend in almost 50 years.

Democrats win mayor's races in college towns and cities all over the country -- South, Midwest, wherever.

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) December 20, 2019

Also, as some folks pointed out, the “winning as a gay dude in Pence’s Indiana” doesn’t really hold when he didn’t come out of the closet till like 3 years after that election and Obama won the state a few years earlier.

oh god no

INSIDE @PeteButtigieg South Bend Indiana headquarters to cover #DemDebate watch party and first things I see. pic.twitter.com/XhDYFEya6F

— Jordan (@JordanChariton) December 20, 2019

serial killer vibes.

shooting for Jason but hitting Patrick, Batemanwise that is

*clicks link* "I don't know what I expected..."

Nice she felt the need to post this

Here is a "wine cave," every vineyard has one. Many/most use them for event spaces/part of their tasting rooms. It's one of the ways for a farming community under enormous pressure to get by. So anyway, diss the fundraiser if you like, but leave wine caves alone. pic.twitter.com/HUHogRVpm3

— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) December 20, 2019

it's true that every vineyard has a cave; it's also true than every billionaire has killed a few people (or been obliquely responsible for the death of many people). so yeah, grow up everyone.

she sucks so much

man if the farmers i know are touchy about anything above all else it's their event spaces

Booty makes HRC look wildly spontaneous and idiosyncratic (both HRCs)

DNC: Cory Booker, you say sumthim?

The Democratic National Committee will again increase the qualification standards for its next debate in January, requiring candidates to receive at least 5 percent support in four qualifying polls, or 7 percent in two early-state polls, making it likely that the field of candidates will be winnowed further for the event.

The announcement on Friday from Tom Perez, the D.N.C. chairman, came despite intense public and private lobbying from Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey and his allies to lower the barrier to participate in the party’s debates, a cause that gained momentum after just one person of color, entrepreneur Andrew Yang, qualified for Thursday’s debate in Los Angeles.

i'm fine with this. i wish booker or castro were there instead of tom fucking steyer, but it was refreshing to have a reasonable number of people on stage last night