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"it's wishful thinking to say the Brexit disruption will only affect precious rich people"

where did I say this?

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:58 (six years ago)

Xp which is to say all sorts of middle income jobs rely on EU freedom of movement/streamlining, and all sorts of low income jobs rely on some sort of product or service being sold in EU or bought from

You didn't literally say it but I felt it was implied. Don't get me wrong. A lot of remain discourse is hideously class blind, like the article I saw saying the BBC has to recruit top talent from abroad and can't possibly be expected to recruit British people.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

But the people on 50k complaining about Brexit disruption are only the vocal, able to speak tip of the iceberg of people who will be fucked over

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:03 (six years ago)

I was just simply pointing out that not everyone is born middle class and often don't see these opportunities or benefits of EU membership, any implications you project onto the post are your own baggage.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

I think maybe this guy should be the labour leader idk

He might be leaving, but he still knows how to torch the Tories on the NHS. They don’t like hearing the truth. #QueensSpeech pic.twitter.com/5GUu3QqsIq

— Rachael Swindon (@Rachael_Swindon) December 19, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

>> Strange times <<
The poll winners' party

It probably won't surprise you to learn that champagne corks were popping at 10pm prompt at the Baby Shard on Thursday night, as the Times and the Sun celebrated the projected result of the exit poll.

It's also unlikely to surprise you to learn that Rupert Murdoch, Rebekah Brooks, Les Hinton and all the usual News UK suspects were there too, getting their fourth and fifth trolleys of booze brought in to the office by the time Blyth Valley announced.

The one thing that might surprise you though is that in among the revellers was... Cate Blanchett.

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:10 (six years ago)

https://media.giphy.com/media/StnSCsvTGIhaM/giphy.gif

mark s, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:20 (six years ago)

Xp @Calzino let's not be snarling each other

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:24 (six years ago)

Snarling? give it up!

Blanchett was in the Hudds Examiner interviewing a Syrian refugee Cheesemaker yesterday. I don't know why that give me the idea she might not be a tory voter. I mean she's half Aussie/US for starters.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:28 (six years ago)

@gyac, where's that from? I might be asked to provide evidence when I refer to her as Tory scum

Simon H., Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:29 (six years ago)

it would be a real hypocritical dick-move to be pictured with a Syrian refugee and giving lip service to the positives of having a humane immigration system and then popping champers with the party of hostile environment.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:37 (six years ago)

xp popbitch mailout

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:39 (six years ago)

THIS is voter suppression.

After the 2017 election there was only ONE conviction of voter fraud in the U.K.

that’s 0.000063%.

There is no valid legal necessity for such laws, the only reason they would implement this is to disenfranchise the most vulnerable in society https://t.co/gyIaItE3p8

— Becca 🌹 (@becca__lr) December 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:45 (six years ago)

well, yeah

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

already planning to steal the next election.. must be worried about how knackered the economy will be by then.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:54 (six years ago)

never hurts to start rigging things in your favour as soon as you get a majority

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:55 (six years ago)

unless you give a shit about democracy, obv

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

given the result of the election, who is more likely to have benefitted from voter fraud?

koogs, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:58 (six years ago)

since voter fraud essentially doesn’t exist, that’s a difficult question to answer

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:05 (six years ago)

Jess Phillips Twitter suggests that she's trying to recruit enough new members to elect her leader above the left membership. Which seems optimistic.

plax (ico), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:10 (six years ago)

this is my own professional bad-not-good bubble but much of the hastings & brighton 80s rockwrite massive -- who are largely *not* public school -- luuurves jess p

(partly i suspect bcz one julie b once announced she wd v happily bang JP and, well, you join the dots) (i take no pleasure in reporting this)

― mark s, Sunday, 15 December 2019 11:05 (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^these guys in particular add up to a small army of maybe at the outside 7-9

mark s, Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:15 (six years ago)

pouring one out for CHUKTIG


We came together & took a stand when others wouldn’t. It was right to shine a spotlight on Britain’s broken politics. But having taken stock and with no voice now in Parliament, we begin the process of winding up our party. Thanks to all who stood with us. https://t.co/QjViYXoQir

— The Independent Group for Change (@ForChange_Now) December 19, 2019

Fizzles, Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:18 (six years ago)

Her page is all "join, if they try and deny your vote it'll be obvious what they're up to, we need to grow our movement" which yes I agreed with last time around as well

plax (ico), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:18 (six years ago)

Xp lol the definition of pour one out

plax (ico), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:19 (six years ago)

our politics is broken... and now so are we

pouring out a pint of sour milk for the melts

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:20 (six years ago)

^^^these guys in particular add up to a small army of maybe at the outside 7-9

but everybody who read them went on to form a Baader-Meinhof gang

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:22 (six years ago)

🤔 pic.twitter.com/FQHebRdluf

— Pukkah Punjabi (@PukkahPunjabi) December 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

one julie b once announced she wd v happily bang JP

don’t know who should feel more insulted

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:43 (six years ago)

*Plays Green Day - Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life) *

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

TBH anything could happen with the registered supporters thing this time around and talking about the membership is a red herring. Anyone who's been paying attention and cares about the result lnows they can bung a few quid to the Labour Party and have a say in the next leader. I doubt that will favour JP in the end but it's unambiguously a good thing in terms of driving democratic engagement.

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:15 (six years ago)

is this good

Exclusive: Clive Lewis to stand for Labour leader with a pledge to go further than Jeremy Corbyn in giving members a say on policy and a more decisive break with Blair/Brown era https://t.co/P8cSoyYGcL

— Rowena Mason (@rowenamason) December 19, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:38 (six years ago)

Yes it is. RLB hasn't made her pitch yet and expect her to match it.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:52 (six years ago)

God knows. He’s a liability with some bad political instincts who isn’t particularly liked by the left of the party but elements of the transformative democratic agenda he’s hinting at sound like they could be interesting. There is scepticism as to whether he would follow through on it. He isn’t going to win, so it’s neither here nor there really, but it’s good someone is talking about rooting policy in the membership in a more direct way and RLB will have to cover some of the same ground now.

Xp

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

Jeremy Corbyn vs Angela Eagle

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:57 (six years ago)

Could be good in the Shadow cab if he has learnt how to behave, idk.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:04 (six years ago)

Is he not currently a junior shadow minister or something? That’s why he does tv appearances

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:16 (six years ago)

Might be. I thought he resigned over some bollocks.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:18 (six years ago)

He did in 17, over triggering a50, but they brought him back soon enough.

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

Shadow Minister for Sustainable Economics
Incumbent
Assumed office
12 January 2018
Serving with Lyn Brown

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:21 (six years ago)

Seems about his level tbh. As SV says nothing from his past actions actually makes me think he would do anything, or that he has any of the kind of ruthless discipline needed to carry it out.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

Ha, amazing

He was the first member of his family to attend university, reading economics at the University of Bradford before being elected student union president, and later vice-president of the National Union of Students. In November 1995, he was a signatory to a letter that argued for the abolition of student loans, saying "Any loans system will be unfair".

Lewis was suspended from the role in 1996 by then-president Jim Murphy of the NUS for attending a debate on free education organised by the Campaign for Free Education (CFE). Murphy's actions were condemned in an early day motion authored by Ken Livingstone which received the backing of 13 MPs.


One of the 13? Jeremy Corbyn.

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:25 (six years ago)

friendship ended with parliamentary politics now insurrectionist violence is my best friend https://t.co/uXPIUSgwbN

— LEXIT_LOVER69 (@coso9001) December 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:36 (six years ago)

gerrymandering and voter ID - how to shape this country like a little US. At this point if some radical group offered me a gun and a brief for a suicide mission to murder some top tories I'd be very tempted to sign up.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:46 (six years ago)

what the fuck
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/18/the-rights-accusations-of-antisemitism-against-sanders-are-cynical-and-dangerous

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:47 (six years ago)

fuck this country

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:47 (six years ago)

their bosses at the SIS building don't mind them stanning for liberal democracy in other countries

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

It doesn't need to be insurrection but organised protest and strike action to fight for working conditions that are about to be scrapped.

Again this isn't getting away from the potentially seismic events in the economy and climate. Brexit is still the main concern here.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

fao Cardamon I didn't really have much time to post earlier and was out and about. But ftr I did vote Remain. But being critical of the tone of FBPE'ers that talk like the whole country is middle class and the insipid class condescension style of the Remain campaign (that will always cause it to fail) doesn't really warrant you projecting crap positions onto me that I wasn't even taking.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:07 (six years ago)

Upgrading my "do I mind Clive?" from "no" to "yes" I do mind him. Rapidly emerging as a pattern here. https://t.co/yKoqNYd6zG

— Sinan Kose (@TheSinanKose) December 19, 2019

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:29 (six years ago)

yeah, these ex-armed forces boys are not to be trusted tbh. I can recall (i think at labour conference '17) some "get down bitch" type comment that made him look like a boorish macho prick.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:34 (six years ago)


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