star wars 9 grim resignation thread

if you touch me
You'll understand
What happiness is

First leaked scene from Cats:

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Does Jason DeRulo sing his character's name over and over

Ok so... it's Abrams. But...based on some of the press I was pleasantly surprised.

I mean...I cannot stan for this the way I did TLJ. It has a solid first half but gets really messy in the second. He stuffs too much in there and some of it doesn't land.

But...it hit enough right notes for me that I enjoyed it. Definitely a dumber SW movie than the one before but hey the OG trilogy was often p dumb too.

I did like some of the new mythos

I thought it was dire.

Would rank it with Episodes I to III

Reading this recap by the NY Times of how their film critics rated each of the Star Wars episodes from 1-9, I was bowled over to read how much A.O. Scott loved "Revenge of the Sith":

"...by far the best film in the more recent trilogy, and also the best of the four episodes Mr. Lucas has directed."

"The sheer beauty, energy and visual coherence of 'Revenge of the Sith' is nothing short of breathtaking.."

And this after he panned "Attack of the Clones"!

As noted somewhere upthread, I've only seen the prequels once in the theater, but my perception at the time was that each improved slightly upon the one before. I am somewhat curious to see how they'd fare a second time around.

that's my recollection too but I also saw them out of order; I skipped Attack of the Clones completely and though Sith was a step up from Phantom Menace. I saw Clones several years later and liked about half of it and found the other half dreadfully boring. But not as cringe inducing as Phantom.

my memory is that the most cringe-inducing bits got worse in 2 and then 3 but on average the films improved

I actually like RotS. But can't ride for the two prior

It's better if you imagine both Anakin and Padme were being puppeteered by Palpatine and that's why they seemed like zombies

Spoiler alert: this movie was rad.

The Wayfinder is cool i want one also apparently girl at end that Lando talks to apparently long lost daughter as hinted in some of the comics that's good i thought he was just trying to fuck her

Haha, that’s interesting to know... my wife thought there was gonna be a gag where he goes (after a beat) “...What’s your mama’s name?”

guys this is not the spoiler thread

Fuuuuuck sorry about that

After drinking a bit I guess I saw morrisp's post that said spoiler and conflated that with the thread title.

MODS CAN U DELETE

Yeah sorry, was following N’s lead there, lol (guess that’s no excuse)

Nobody should ever follow my lead!

this is the first take I've seen that makes me want to pirate it

Rise of Skywalker is the perfect culmination of the Star Wars series. An accidental masterpiece on the impossibility of art under late capitalism. Five Bags of Popcorn and ten Babu Fricks.

— Morton Downey III (@cushbomb) December 22, 2019

Lol

http://www.sntstory.com/2020/01/02/the-192-minute-j-j-abrams-rise-of-skywalker-cut-is-coming-sooner-than-you-think/

oh thank god disney have seen sense because the main issues with this film were definitely that a) it was not long enough and b) there should have been even more callbacks to the previous movies

Love to see a corporate entity with more money than god whose guiding principle is 'fortune favors the...em, er...well, let's not make any hasty declarations on that front until after we've done extensive market research and focus testing'.

look i'm not gonna lie if it's 40 extra minutes of babu frik then i'll be there day one

Babu Frik performing Public Enemy's Fight the Power

shut up and take my money

Also the lonely Tosche Station owner finally gives up waiting for Luke. His name...

Mr Binks, Esq

look i'm not gonna lie if it's 40 extra minutes of babu frik then i'll be there day one

*taps the display name badge*

that site with this story looks.. uh, really reputable

Lol yea. The real story seems less uhh interesting

https://www.ign.com/articles/2020/01/04/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-star-hopes-theres-a-directors-cut-dominic-monaghan-jj-abrams

no additional frik, no deal

Monaghan then described a scene that he was a part of that didn't make the theatrical cut.

“Another thing that we will hopefully see at some point in the future," he said, "is that in the final battle, Connix [played by Billie Lourd] injures her leg. Obviously, myself, Rose and Connix are exiting the battle, and Rose has a weapon. While Rose is busy doing stuff, I grab Connix’s arm and put it over my shoulder to make sure that all of us come back as unscathed as possible.”

wow this sounds amazing

I really didn't get why Monaghan was in the film

What I want to see is the meal they enjoyed before the battle. In real time, if at all possible.

Monaghan, like several other actors, was in the film because he'd worked with Abrams before, full stop.

This film needed to be shorter, not longer. Or, the script needed to be simpler. But when there is no fucking point to any of it, it's hard to know what to leave out.

Billie Lourd was robbed tbh

As recently discovered in the Rise of Skywalker Visual Dictionary, Monaghan played historian Beaumont Kin, who was on track to become one the youngest professors at the Lerct Historical Institute before the First Order destroyed the Hosnian system.

phew, glad we cleared that up

did we even know that billie lourd's character's name was connix?

She's named in one or both of the prior movies

you can see Leia's lips not lining up with the dialogue when she says "Billie, get me a coffee" instead of "Connix, what's our status"

The Arhul Hextrophon School of Embedded Journalism was a school located on Lerct. Beaumont Kin attended the school, and met the Rebel Alliance historian Voren Na'al there.

I haven't seen Rise of Skywalker yet, but I'm assuming that the Arhul Hextrophon School of Embedded Journalism is an absolutely central setting.

yeah, babu frik is a columnist for the new yavin times who ends up reporting from the front lines of the battle with the final order

I bet Monaghan is telling everybody he had a major part that was cut by the evil studio to just his handful of scenes

bg constantly making me lol today

The film is largely focused on j-school prof Luke's attempts at securing tenure. Sorry 4 spoilers.

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I'm rewatched the prequels, mostly because all the post-mortem discourse about "Episode 3 being actually pretty good" made me realize that I had no memory of ever seeing it. (I don't think I actually ever did!)

It's pretty easy to target the awfulness of the "romance" elements, Jar Jar, and talk about how "an explanation for the mystical elements of this series are not what drew us to it in the first place", but as a plot schematic, I'm pretty begrudgingly surprised at how well Lucas was able to create a compelling character out of Palpatine.

Lucas has proposed (I think) that the series be viewed in order-- this would mean that Luke Skywalker's origins, and parentage, would be established before the reveal in 5, so, fuck that-- but I am attracted to the idea that viewing 1-3 might create in the viewer a not-knowing of Palpatine's intentions, and make his re-appearance in 5 (and re-emergence in 6) be that much more compelling, idk. I think there's a lot of good work done here even if, if, if, etc.

This whole fuckery ended better than Game Of Thrones, at the very least

Weird! I was gifted a year of Disney+ for xmas so, as you do, I spent the weekend watching eps 1-2 (for the second time ever in their entirety) and starting on The Clone Wars cartoon, and my impression is pretty much identical to your own. For all the garbage in the prequels that people justifiably denounce, the Palpatine plot and the machinations of the Clone Wars are actually pretty decent. And it kinda shines a light on (no spoilers) how comparatively half-assed certain plot developments are in the new one.