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Pointless fact: both Emily Thornberry and Rebecca Long-Bailey are at the very least eligible for Irish passports. Has Labour ever had a dual national leader before? My thanks to Bryan Gould for not ruining this question.

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) December 18, 2019



Unfortunately I can tell you that Tony is in theory also a member of the cursed diaspora.

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:09 (six years ago)

Bonar-Law was born in Canada and moved to the UK when he was 12, I don't know about dual nationality though.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:12 (six years ago)

Thornberry is actually a dual:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2016-07-06b.937.0&s=Conor+McGinn+irish#g974.0

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:14 (six years ago)

In fact, out the first seven (elected) UK Prime Ministers of the 20th century, only two of them were English.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:17 (six years ago)

What were they, Tom? Welsh?

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

3 Scots, 1 Welsh and a Canadian (who was Scottish really).

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:21 (six years ago)

Blair family had Donegal connections iirc

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:48 (six years ago)

Yeah but they were unionists! Hilarious that he became extremely catholic after

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:50 (six years ago)

I blame his Scottishness tbh

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:50 (six years ago)

Would be tough for the Tories to make much of dual nationality given the fact that the only reason Johnson isn't a Yank is that he didn't want to keep paying two lots of tax.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:52 (six years ago)

Hands up if you remember Keir Starmer as Director of Public Prosecutions investigating Hillsborough or Orgreave or prosecuting anyone?

Hands up if you remember him prosecuting anyone for the financial crisis?

Anyone? Anyone?

— Col Coyle (@colinalancoyle) December 18, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:55 (six years ago)

and he is one of the cowardly 184

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

fwiw, the national Hillsborough enquiry started kicked off while Starmer was at the DPP but hadn't concluded by the time he left.

Both Starmer and his successor, Alison Saunders, have called for changes to the law to make it easier to prosecute for financial crimes.

The one that will probably come back to haunt him is failure to prosecute the police officer that killed Ian Tomlinson, though.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

No, it’ll be Worboys and Twitter joke trial. First had already been tried on him, second is just stupid and awful.

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:05 (six years ago)

Would be tough for the Tories to make much of dual nationality given the fact that the only reason Johnson isn't a Yank is that he didn't want to keep paying two lots of tax.


Atlanticism is acceptable in this country; being a lesser nationality much less so!

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

My card would going in the bin before I'd vote for any of the cowardly 184, because they are the actual reason me + many of the membership joined in the first place.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:07 (six years ago)

turning your back on working people, the poor and the disabled is an indelible stain on any prospective LOTO imo

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:09 (six years ago)

People saying in the replies to that thread that Miliband would have been a Polish citizen at birth?

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:09 (six years ago)

xp Labour: turning its back on the working class!
Also Labour: has nothing to offer the aspiring middle classes!
Pundits: are cunts

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:10 (six years ago)

I keep reading this thread as be-bop is king

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:13 (six years ago)

without the accidental hyphenation

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:14 (six years ago)

Keep getting a sade tune running under the first bit.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:24 (six years ago)

All in all Corbyn's overall record stands up well. Don't let any corrupt New Labour media pundit tell you otherwise. There is no way we should swing right. Quite the opposite. pic.twitter.com/GSPPDfkngE

— Thomas James (@ThomasJ58805552) December 18, 2019

no shame in failing good in an FTTP electoral system, despite what all these opportunist melt cunts are saying.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:43 (six years ago)

xp I read it as bozo is king, and in my head it plays to the tune of "TV Is King" by the Tubes.

Tim, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:55 (six years ago)

Thought the name was familiar, it's the one who made the racist tweet then protected his account.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/18/extra-pathos-belongings-of-ex--labour-mp-who-lost-seat-incinerated

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:11 (six years ago)

pouring one out for his silk suits

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

Big Clive has moseyed in. Could be a gamechanger

imago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:06 (six years ago)

- hotheaded
- already landed in some hot and happening political incorrectness water
- served in the forces and people like that
- strong green agenda

tell me more clive

imago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:08 (six years ago)

He's the jolly green giant of the PLP.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:12 (six years ago)

might have tell some of those nice folk on the doorsteps of Blyth Valley, Wales that he is actually green!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:21 (six years ago)

props to him for being one of the 48 who rebelled against Harman in '15 tho

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

Here to cite Clive’s credentials
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/139/590x/secondary/Clive-Vs-Wes-Labour-Twitter-row-428894.jpg

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:27 (six years ago)

lool "jumped up turd"! sadly I think his edge has been smoothed out a bit since then and he's become much more professional.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:34 (six years ago)

Burn neoliberalism, not people. pic.twitter.com/2cEgXo6RBS

— Clive Lewis MP (@labourlewis) June 16, 2017




https://www.huckmag.com/perspectives/activism-2/clive-lewis-politicians-rely-on-people-to-be-ignorant/ this was a good interview

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:37 (six years ago)

I always forget how old he is (he’s 48)

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:39 (six years ago)

that Grenfell post of his was attacked by ("oh she's done it so again -so so hilarious") Marina Hyde for not being nuanced/dignified/statespersonlike enough for a Labour MP to be posting.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:41 (six years ago)

Oh, Marina tone policing the anger of a black man who thinks Grenfell was an outage? How unexpected!

glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

Paula Sherriff was another who rebelled against Harman in '15 on the welfare bill and this was her first year as an MP - cos according to some you can't expect new MP's to break the whip or oppose instructions from the top - yes you can!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:54 (six years ago)

Oh also Lammy and Khan did the right thing as well.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:54 (six years ago)

see it's taken less than a day for someone i like more than starmer to run. patience, patience

imago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:02 (six years ago)

Big Clive has moseyed in. Could be a gamechanger

― imago, Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:06 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Clive4Leader flying out of the traps with this coveted anti-endorsement from John Mann

If there is one person who should never consider standing for Labour Leader it is Clive Lewis. https://t.co/LsIQGzvaHR

— John Mann (@LordJohnMann) December 16, 2019

(seriously though, is a Clive Lewis leadership bid a confirmed thing, or just a possibility?)

soref, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:03 (six years ago)

John Mann is a racist

plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:14 (six years ago)

I think Priti Patel spends a great deal of her life confused tbf.

― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:06 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Unfortunately I think Patel spends her entire life in deluded fanatic certainty

plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:15 (six years ago)

otm to both

imago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:18 (six years ago)

both plaxico posts i mean

think lewis is confirmed in

imago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:19 (six years ago)

john is right but let's not elide the fact that the SNP didn't vote for the early GE in the end (https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/734)... they walked labour right up to the edge of the cliff, then let them walk off alone. utterly ruthless

For historical accuracy, many of us wanted to delay election until after the Brexit legislation had been won or lost. This would have meant in the New Year but was impossible once SNP & Lib Dems decided to vote for one & gave Johnson the votes he needed. https://t.co/9mFjcPJury

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) December 18, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:23 (six years ago)

Jess Phillips woth the face of Kevin Phillips. pic.twitter.com/DXJnlSTmYn

— Football Manager Hair on Politicians (@visualsatire) December 18, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:27 (six years ago)

Outstanding reply from Michael Rosen to Mann's tweet.

nashwan, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:28 (six years ago)

(xp) Gerard Depardieu, basically.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:31 (six years ago)

Rosen is blocked by Racist Mann, but watching him ridicule him, his ridiculous position and the offensive title it holds to the very ppl he's supposed to be representing, his hypocrisy - at least 3-4 times a day is such a pleasure!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:41 (six years ago)


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