bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

anvil said it - he said that the next leader needs to be decisive and convincingly promise action

Thats not what I meant. And even if I did its no longer the run up to the election. Its a different moment and need to look forward not back.

The idea that anyone is going to be standing up and skewering Boris with their superior brain ninja skills, legal training or whatever else is nonsense. Or the idea there is someone they are going to 'fear'. Not with a majority that size. Boris can say 'I have a mandate you have blank piece of paper with 'Shoot!' written on, you have nothing, no one likes you, go home'. Getting caught up about some particular saviour or other who is going to shout the best isn't it

hmmm, classy but kinda boring? xp

xp Becky with the good (ish) hair?

I like Starmer's pitch. So far I think I support him of the candidates who've moved towards standing. His appeal will probably grow as Brexit worsens, too. Crucially, he's said that the policies need to remain radical

― imago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Duped again.

I know there's no shot in the arm that will make Labour the most popular party overnight, but they'd better be come the next election

persuade you

I am an easy sell. I already believe in socialism and redistribution

and minority rights, and the green agenda

I've noticed they've started calling her Becky, if they can make that stick it might help. Everyone knows a Becky.

;_; on behalf of Rebeccas who aren't Beckys everywhere btw

(this one is pretty far down the list of reasons I won't ever be PM though)

Bex Bailey or gtfo

Thornberry's pitch in the the Guardian is pretty poor - lots of revisionism re the 2017 result and this absurd belief that had Labour tried to block an election it wouldn't destroy them

She’s a busted flush and she knows it. Wouldn’t be surprised to see her drop out.

Dropping out and negotiating an endorsement makes sense.

This story lol

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/17/tories-switch-to-messaging-app-signal-to-curb-whatsapp-leaks

Like...as literally one second’s thought would tell you, the issue with leaks is the people, not the platform. Anyone with access to the group can screenshot. As someone with a Signal group, you can get the disappearing messages after five seconds setting, but lbr anything less than an hour is going to be a reach for most people.

“I guess Priti Patel must be quite confused and alarmed as her party votes with its feet for secure messaging platforms, while she’s campaigning to stop them from protecting these very same users.”

Choice quote lol

I think Priti Patel spends a great deal of her life confused tbf.

Pointless fact: both Emily Thornberry and Rebecca Long-Bailey are at the very least eligible for Irish passports. Has Labour ever had a dual national leader before? My thanks to Bryan Gould for not ruining this question.

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) December 18, 2019

Bonar-Law was born in Canada and moved to the UK when he was 12, I don't know about dual nationality though.

Thornberry is actually a dual:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2016-07-06b.937.0&s=Conor+McGinn+irish#g974.0

In fact, out the first seven (elected) UK Prime Ministers of the 20th century, only two of them were English.

What were they, Tom? Welsh?

3 Scots, 1 Welsh and a Canadian (who was Scottish really).

Blair family had Donegal connections iirc

Yeah but they were unionists! Hilarious that he became extremely catholic after

I blame his Scottishness tbh

Would be tough for the Tories to make much of dual nationality given the fact that the only reason Johnson isn't a Yank is that he didn't want to keep paying two lots of tax.

Hands up if you remember Keir Starmer as Director of Public Prosecutions investigating Hillsborough or Orgreave or prosecuting anyone?

Hands up if you remember him prosecuting anyone for the financial crisis?

Anyone? Anyone?

— Col Coyle (@colinalancoyle) December 18, 2019

and he is one of the cowardly 184

fwiw, the national Hillsborough enquiry started kicked off while Starmer was at the DPP but hadn't concluded by the time he left.

Both Starmer and his successor, Alison Saunders, have called for changes to the law to make it easier to prosecute for financial crimes.

The one that will probably come back to haunt him is failure to prosecute the police officer that killed Ian Tomlinson, though.

No, it’ll be Worboys and Twitter joke trial. First had already been tried on him, second is just stupid and awful.

Would be tough for the Tories to make much of dual nationality given the fact that the only reason Johnson isn't a Yank is that he didn't want to keep paying two lots of tax.

My card would going in the bin before I'd vote for any of the cowardly 184, because they are the actual reason me + many of the membership joined in the first place.

turning your back on working people, the poor and the disabled is an indelible stain on any prospective LOTO imo

People saying in the replies to that thread that Miliband would have been a Polish citizen at birth?

xp Labour: turning its back on the working class!
Also Labour: has nothing to offer the aspiring middle classes!
Pundits: are cunts

I keep reading this thread as be-bop is king

without the accidental hyphenation

Keep getting a sade tune running under the first bit.

All in all Corbyn's overall record stands up well. Don't let any corrupt New Labour media pundit tell you otherwise. There is no way we should swing right. Quite the opposite. pic.twitter.com/GSPPDfkngE

— Thomas James (@ThomasJ58805552) December 18, 2019

no shame in failing good in an FTTP electoral system, despite what all these opportunist melt cunts are saying.

xp I read it as bozo is king, and in my head it plays to the tune of "TV Is King" by the Tubes.

Thought the name was familiar, it's the one who made the racist tweet then protected his account.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/18/extra-pathos-belongings-of-ex--labour-mp-who-lost-seat-incinerated

pouring one out for his silk suits

Big Clive has moseyed in. Could be a gamechanger

- hotheaded
- already landed in some hot and happening political incorrectness water
- served in the forces and people like that
- strong green agenda

tell me more clive

He's the jolly green giant of the PLP.

might have tell some of those nice folk on the doorsteps of Blyth Valley, Wales that he is actually green!

props to him for being one of the 48 who rebelled against Harman in '15 tho

Here to cite Clive’s credentials
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/139/590x/secondary/Clive-Vs-Wes-Labour-Twitter-row-428894.jpg

lool "jumped up turd"! sadly I think his edge has been smoothed out a bit since then and he's become much more professional.

Burn neoliberalism, not people. pic.twitter.com/2cEgXo6RBS

— Clive Lewis MP (@labourlewis) June 16, 2017