bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

Keir can say what he wants now but look at his achievements in 4 years in parliament

RLBs big policy push was 'merging green issues with industrial strategy to get unions onside with fighting climate change'

KS policy was 'do a people votes so we can trade 50 seats for Putney" https://t.co/nNXSyIQ2ca

— bread and poses (@MrJackGrant) December 17, 2019

Maybe RLB wrote up 'Up the RA' in a school book when she was 12.

Was that his policy or the brief he was landed with? xp

Thornberry will never get over that tweet of the house with the flags. Hates England, hates the working class, hates our boys.

I only objected to the size of the flag on the house. Or was it the size of the house.

Maybe RLB wrote up 'Up the RA' in a school book when she was 12.

Here’s the real dealbreaker for ILX

Emirates stadium - Arsenal about to kick off our season: sunshine & hope! Great.

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) August 14, 2016

This is more difficult: but as an Arsenal fan, I have to accept that was also incredible by Spurs! https://t.co/U6GJun61cj

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) May 8, 2019

After too many injuries, I, for one, am much enjoying Jack Wilshere’s return to form. ‘Super Jack’.

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) December 28, 2017

goontinuity

With a side of i DoNt EvEn NoTiCe My Tv

Great to talk to @bbcnickrobinson for his Political Thinking podcast: the ups & downs of growing up, Brexit, Arsenal & how I didn’t notice burglars stealing my TV!https://t.co/hjhjVBk1rp

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) March 10, 2018

do we know about his music taste yet? i mean there's a perfectly good geir starmer joke going to waste here

TBF I got burgled in Camden and didn’t notice they took my American-made portable stereo for a day until I glanced over and saw a US/UK adapter just sitting there on its own in the socket, rendering the thieves’ efforts pretty much useless.

tl;dr, don’t make me tap the sign
🐦[How many times must I post Stephen Bush’s speech to Progress from last year? pic.twitter.com/P6qwpf7FIM🕸
— Phil Battersby (@WoyHattersly) August 20, 2019🕸]🐦

just had massive row with my French gilet-jaune father-in-law who literally was like 'a deal? why do you need a deal? what deal are you talking about? that's all bullshit, the PEOPLE have decided' - he's very anti-EU and his lip was quivering and he was being a complete asshole to me about it and what could i say, my wife is sitting there horrified, and I'm like, i live here, this is important to me, if we don't have a deal there will be real economic problems and he's like "stop, stop, no, that's all lies". he says Europe is trying to "humiliate" the UK by making it beg. for a deal. which he has just said is unnecessary. i mentioned that the EU actually did offer a deal, which they negotiated with theresa may's government and he just said "that's not true." it's just impossible to speak to him because there is no shared set of facts.

🐦[this is just like an episode of In The Thick of It.
— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) November 8, 2017🕸]🐦

so what happens tomorrow if boris instructs brenda to deny royal assent to the no-no-deal bill? is that even an option?

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🐦[**** Humongous Labour Policy just announced ****

• Labour will CUT RAIL FARES by 33% from this January
• This will save average commuters £1,096 a year
• Labour will introduce free rail for those under 16
• Labour will introduce a fair fare scheme for our part time workers pic.twitter.com/bdDMZiBDzH🕸
— Tory Fibs (@ToryFibs) December 1, 2019🕸]🐦

i feel mcdo and corb in interviews always call RL-B "becky" long-bailey

SIR Keir Starmer selected Ode To Joy – the music adopted as an anthem by the European Union – when he took part in a Desert Island Discs-style event on Thursday evening.

As politicos scanned his choices for coded messages, the Holborn and St Pancras MP also picked The Israelites and Bridge Over Troubled Water as he appeared on stage at a Labour Party fundraiser.

Mr Starmer, who has been leading the party’s response to Brexit, said he picked Ode To Joy because it was always an “incredible noise” when musicians performed Beethoven’s classic work.

...

Stormzy’s version of the Simon and Garfunkel classic Bridge Over Troubled Water was chosen because it had been recorded to highlight the inequalities and injustice behind the Grenfell Tower fire tragedy. The MP also revealed a love of Northern Soul music, choosing Dobie Gray’s Out On The Floor.

He revealed that one of his favourite musicians was Edwyn Collins, picking his version of Pale Blue Eyes. He said he now played football on Sundays with the singer’s son; his luxury item in the Desert Island Discs format was a football.

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The evening had begun, however, with Jim Reeves’ Welcome To My World, which Mr Starmer said was dedicated to his mother, who passed away just two weeks before he was first elected in 2015. She had suffered from Still’s Disease, a rare condition which affects the joints and the immune system.
...


Mr Starmer said Beethoven’s Piano Concerto No 5 would always be special to the couple, who have two children and live in Kentish Town, after playing at their 2007 wedding

anvil said it - he said that the next leader needs to be decisive and convincingly promise action

Thats not what I meant. And even if I did its no longer the run up to the election. Its a different moment and need to look forward not back.

The idea that anyone is going to be standing up and skewering Boris with their superior brain ninja skills, legal training or whatever else is nonsense. Or the idea there is someone they are going to 'fear'. Not with a majority that size. Boris can say 'I have a mandate you have blank piece of paper with 'Shoot!' written on, you have nothing, no one likes you, go home'. Getting caught up about some particular saviour or other who is going to shout the best isn't it

hmmm, classy but kinda boring? xp

xp Becky with the good (ish) hair?

I like Starmer's pitch. So far I think I support him of the candidates who've moved towards standing. His appeal will probably grow as Brexit worsens, too. Crucially, he's said that the policies need to remain radical

― imago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Duped again.

I know there's no shot in the arm that will make Labour the most popular party overnight, but they'd better be come the next election

persuade you

I am an easy sell. I already believe in socialism and redistribution

and minority rights, and the green agenda

I've noticed they've started calling her Becky, if they can make that stick it might help. Everyone knows a Becky.

;_; on behalf of Rebeccas who aren't Beckys everywhere btw

(this one is pretty far down the list of reasons I won't ever be PM though)

Bex Bailey or gtfo

Thornberry's pitch in the the Guardian is pretty poor - lots of revisionism re the 2017 result and this absurd belief that had Labour tried to block an election it wouldn't destroy them

She’s a busted flush and she knows it. Wouldn’t be surprised to see her drop out.

Dropping out and negotiating an endorsement makes sense.

This story lol

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/17/tories-switch-to-messaging-app-signal-to-curb-whatsapp-leaks

Like...as literally one second’s thought would tell you, the issue with leaks is the people, not the platform. Anyone with access to the group can screenshot. As someone with a Signal group, you can get the disappearing messages after five seconds setting, but lbr anything less than an hour is going to be a reach for most people.

“I guess Priti Patel must be quite confused and alarmed as her party votes with its feet for secure messaging platforms, while she’s campaigning to stop them from protecting these very same users.”

Choice quote lol

I think Priti Patel spends a great deal of her life confused tbf.

Pointless fact: both Emily Thornberry and Rebecca Long-Bailey are at the very least eligible for Irish passports. Has Labour ever had a dual national leader before? My thanks to Bryan Gould for not ruining this question.

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) December 18, 2019

Bonar-Law was born in Canada and moved to the UK when he was 12, I don't know about dual nationality though.

Thornberry is actually a dual:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2016-07-06b.937.0&s=Conor+McGinn+irish#g974.0

In fact, out the first seven (elected) UK Prime Ministers of the 20th century, only two of them were English.

What were they, Tom? Welsh?

3 Scots, 1 Welsh and a Canadian (who was Scottish really).

Blair family had Donegal connections iirc

Yeah but they were unionists! Hilarious that he became extremely catholic after

I blame his Scottishness tbh

Would be tough for the Tories to make much of dual nationality given the fact that the only reason Johnson isn't a Yank is that he didn't want to keep paying two lots of tax.

Hands up if you remember Keir Starmer as Director of Public Prosecutions investigating Hillsborough or Orgreave or prosecuting anyone?

Hands up if you remember him prosecuting anyone for the financial crisis?

Anyone? Anyone?

— Col Coyle (@colinalancoyle) December 18, 2019

and he is one of the cowardly 184

fwiw, the national Hillsborough enquiry started kicked off while Starmer was at the DPP but hadn't concluded by the time he left.

Both Starmer and his successor, Alison Saunders, have called for changes to the law to make it easier to prosecute for financial crimes.

The one that will probably come back to haunt him is failure to prosecute the police officer that killed Ian Tomlinson, though.

No, it’ll be Worboys and Twitter joke trial. First had already been tried on him, second is just stupid and awful.

Would be tough for the Tories to make much of dual nationality given the fact that the only reason Johnson isn't a Yank is that he didn't want to keep paying two lots of tax.

My card would going in the bin before I'd vote for any of the cowardly 184, because they are the actual reason me + many of the membership joined in the first place.

turning your back on working people, the poor and the disabled is an indelible stain on any prospective LOTO imo

People saying in the replies to that thread that Miliband would have been a Polish citizen at birth?

xp Labour: turning its back on the working class!
Also Labour: has nothing to offer the aspiring middle classes!
Pundits: are cunts

I keep reading this thread as be-bop is king