bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

Rayner was an abstainer on the welfare bill vote.. just saying.

As long as it ends with lol we're going to die then sure why not xp

i mentioned upthread that my insanely rightwing father-in-law was staying with us last week along with my mother-in-law

on saturday we went out for lunch and i ended up staying in the car for a bit while my they and my wife went ahead, because my daughter had fallen asleep on the journey

both in-laws had been pretty quiet following the election result, correctly feeling that my wife and i were extremely upset

m-i-l broached the subject and said that she hoped we could get over it soon, because 'it's not like anyone died', at which my wife fucking lost it and explained that actually 130,000 people were dead because of austerity, and that the country had ended up with vastly more debt despite it, food bank usage had gone though the roof - all the classic reasons why tory government has been bad not good

both in-laws were genuinely shocked that a) my wife had these facts immediately ready to reel off and that b) they were true, and they were flustered and embarrassed and unable to mount a defence even on the scale of 'well croybn would force us to share toothbrushes if he got in'

just completely unexamined, kneejerk support for the tories that collapses at the most basic scrutiny, but nonetheless i'm sure it won't affect how they vote at the next opportunity

lol we're all gonna die

He has attracted the racists that want no foreigners whatsoever. I'm not really sure he has the skill to sell it to the public. The media will help him all the way here though.

Be interesting to see what the atmosphere is like for foreign students for the next few years and whether they would want to keep coming.

Might be easier for China and India to take English academics lol. A brain drain is a possibility. It could sink a lot of universities and plunge cities associated to them further into the ground.

I am not sure Johnson really needs to sell much to the public other than the idea of a tougher points-based system letting in the ‘best and brightest’. The U.K. finance and tech industries - or any industries that need computers to make them work - will likely always require immigration from India. I’d imagine the vast, vast majority of those jobs are going to be in Labour-held metro areas.

iirc, despite May’s insistence that they be treated like criminals, foreign students are have generally polled positively -even with Conservative voters. The weird thing is that, even in the toxic atmosphere of the last ten years, student numbers have gone up. What’s been lost is diversity though - the volumes from India, Pakistan, Nigeria, etc, collapsed but were completely offset by more students from China. I wouldn’t be surprised to see China continue to grow (barring the kind of nascent Sinophobic red scare you are starting to see in the US happening here), with a decline in EU students offset by more Indians.

I’ve met a few U.K. academics at Chinese universities and it doesn’t sound a barrel of laughs, tbh. Branch campuses of U.K. universities in China, for sure, though. A brain drain to the US, Australia, Gulf, Singapore, etc, seems inevitable too.

I guess they’re thinking about their younger years when

Please give this woman a shadow cab job.

🐦[Warrington North’s new MP @charlotte2153🕸 says she’s not going to apologise for saying Lazio supporters doing Nazi salutes should “get their heads kicked in”. Says “sometimes fascism needs to be physically confronted”. I asked about the abuse she’s had in the campaign too: pic.twitter.com/gmvt56LBje🕸
— Phil McCann (@phi1mccann) December 16, 2019🕸]🐦

Finance will be in metro areas but tech for companies might be more spread around into grubby business parks in leave areas. I think it's about the discourse more than anything else and how that goes down with people who watch it from a distance.

"iirc, despite May’s insistence that they be treated like criminals, foreign students are have generally polled positively -even with Conservative voters"

Do wonder if that will keep going in the current atmosphere, red scare or not. Not so much Johnson but the people around him. xp

OMG gyac, she’s THAT Charlotte. Love her, hate her trolls.

ikr? I stan. Her and Nadia in the new intake ❤️

And Zarah Sultana as well, had so much shit thrown at her in the runup

"As a working-class Muslim woman, I feel the threats posed by a resurgent hard-right Tory party.

But our movement has before, & will again, beat the forces of hate, division & austerity. The response to injustice is & always will be socialism."

My acceptance speech last night👇🏽 pic.twitter.com/uVH5yzQGP3

— Zarah Sultana (@zarahsultana) December 13, 2019

did we talk about this last night? basically exactly the kind of shit you would expect

We are very far from being perfect at ⁦@BBCNews⁩ — but the bilge about ‘bias’ needs a response. @"GE19 - from the presenter's chair "https://t.co/aVQiGb27KU on @LinkedIn

— Huw Edwards (@huwbbc) December 15, 2019

lol linkedin

Tim Farron has told the BBC that he won’t be standing for the Liberal Democrat eadership. He held the post between 2015 and 2017, but told the BBC that if he were asked to do it again, the answer would be a “definite, definite no”.

didn't realise this dude was still an mp tbqh

I'm also a no

tbh i think farronism was never given the chance to fully blossom, let's bring the milk-loving homophobe back and give the libdems the leadership they so richly deserve

i'm a yes, we have little enough to chuckle at currently

been discussed at party hq and apparently the chairman of the board said give me just a little more tim

Huw Edwards doesn't address any of the specific charges only answers in generalities. This is because is he isn't very good, and probably worthless (though in the interests of balance I should point out I've no idea who he is and didn't read his article)

Just one of the absolute best threads on twitter ever and certainly the best stuff ever written about Tim Farron

pic.twitter.com/fjD8z6J46L

— ian ‘join labour’ mighty (@iammightor) February 3, 2017

Have has my first email from a melt Lab councillor

Blah blah Venezuela -- stfu Fred!

what are you on about lad

As a Lab member I just received an email from a melt reflecting on the election. It's so melty!!

great

what are you going to do about it. imo email him back expressing concern with his position?

might phrase every post to this thread as a question, implying a rising terminal inflection?

It's already glaringly obvious which Corbynites have the capacity to ask themselves painful questions and which ones are beyond hope. Kudos to the former, STFU to the latter.

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) December 16, 2019

One of the themes of tomorrow's live show. Ultimately remain failed because Labour failed and the chances of success were always slim but hopefully some other ideas will come out of the discussion.

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) December 16, 2019

xps

can you two just fuck or fight already, this is tedious

DL is calm and tweeting as he always does

It's already glaringly obvious which Corbynites have the capacity to ask themselves painful questions and which ones are beyond hope.

Making a list, checking it twice

at a rapid pace with nary a flutter of consideration

the joy of being a Remainiac is you don't have to ask yourself any painful questions because the project was perfect and only failed because of Jammy Crowbar

I was right that continuity remain would get us all killed. As an Irish citizen, it gives me no pleasure to report this.

great

what are you going to do about it. imo email him back expressing concern with his position?

― imago, Monday, 16 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

might phrase every post to this thread as a question, implying a rising terminal inflection?

― imago, Monday, 16 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

No I was thinking of showing some admiration the way you did with Chuka.

gyac otm re: tedious.

Inevitably Nicky Morgan is back in the Cabinet (for Culture, Media and Sport). World Cup 2030 in the bag lads.

one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol) they learned fucking NOTHING

xp didn’t she stand down?!

hopefully once the no deal is done we can look forward to many years of privileged liberals framing the political direction of Lesser UK solely in terms of rejoin as the universal panacea

that was all obviously hammed up for the cameras/you xxxxxp. anyway yeah tedious sorry

What’s the podcast gonna be called then? Re-entryists? xp

Nicky Morgan is no longer an MP. Neither is Zac Goldsmith, but they're talking about making him a Lord to keep him in the cabinet, hurrah!

Legit a podcast recorded by regular contributors to this thread would be more otm and 100% less gassy than that podcast, no accounting for taste

@tombarton
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If you were wondering why Nicky Morgan - a former Remain campaigner who stood down as an MP - was doing the rounds on TV and radio campaigning for Boris Johnson, you have your answer:

A seat in the Lords, and around the Cabinet table.

FUCKS SAKE

Imran Ahmad Khan: Taking the Wakefield seat from Mary Creagh, one Labour had held since 1932, he has run businesses in several countries and worked with the UN. Put into the seat after the original candidate, Antony Calvert, was removed over comments about food banks, Khan – who was born in Wakefield – sought to counter the criticism he had been “parachuted” into the seat by literally parachuting into the town.

xp Profiles in Venality

I suppose Morgan was due something for her bullshit performance on Good Morning defending the 50,000 nurses lie.

xxp I was reading about him earlier. He is also (apparently?) the only out gay Muslim politician in the world

Also a Tory bastard.

He’s not the only out gay Muslim politician at Westminster.

how terminally smug and clueless do have to be to post like you are on the winning side of the argument when Leave has won how national votes in a row now? I'll ask DL because I could do with some of the drugs he's on to help deal with the crushing gut-punch of last week - not that it would do me any fucking good really.

He’s not the only out gay Muslim politician at Westminster.