Was hearing from various political podcasts, a few of the Pod Save ones and a couple of other places.Not that Obama himself has been showing himself in the best light recently in terms of what his opinion re democratic behaviour/policy ought to be.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
Idea is taht to compromise and go along with this infrastructure deal right now means that they are having to put forward 2 coinflicting stories at the same time. Impeachment needs t to be a totally unscrupulous momster taht you can't trust from one moment to the next, I think there's plenty of evidence of that. But at the same time they are trying to show that they can make a deal, in order for them to show themselves to be reasonable, but that also shows that they think they can rely on t to some extent. Seems like a not very thought out strategy when the more important thing right now is the first part. & since there is no immediate effect this just undermines their message.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
Those messages only conflict for people who cannot think their way out of a paper bag, most of whom vote republican anyway. The president is not the living embodiment of infrastructure appropriations, except to people who think the president is the government while the Congress is some inexplicable bunch of people who have no discernible purpose but just stand around being ornamental and irrelevant. It is unfortunate that this kindergartner's view of government seems to be very prevalent in the USA these days.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
But at the same time they are trying to show that they can make a deal
Again, maybe they aren't trying to "show" anything, maybe they are trying to do something. Trade war sucks, Trump's status quo is going to fuck lots of Americans very hard (indeed has already done so) and a policy of "let's not do anything to alleviate or slow the fucking over of Americans until November 2020 lest it look good for Trump" is just too sad and cynical for me to accept, even if I thought it were sound political strategy.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
SCOOP: 30 freshman House Democrats are trying 2 draft Rep. @JustinAmash (I) as an impeachment manager 4 the Senate trial of TrumpPelosi makes the call, but these Dems want a bipartisan showing & Amash is among the most conservative members in the Househttps://t.co/oua44qujW0— Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) December 15, 2019
galaxy brain stuff here
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
You can question a witnesses credibility but you cannot question hard documentary evidence, which each firsthand witness part of this investigation provide. pic.twitter.com/FBTMpTySuQ— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) December 15, 2019
shit that looks like an onion article but isn't
the whole tweet thread is fucking insane
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
Christ, the 'bipartisan' delusion will never die, at least not in my life
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
kind of a pointless endeavor. no matter what Republican you get to join up, they'll be called a "RINO" or a "secretly angry Democrat". when it's Flake, who is already seen as a defector, that work is already done.
everybody should just quit auditioning for the Independent vote because that isn't how they're gonna win it.
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link
err sorry, Amash, not Flake, though the point remains
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
It's not a terrible idea, given that Amash has been more forcefully articulate about impeachment than most Democrats.
― jaymc, Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
Amash is a person of principle, many of which I disagree with, but even a pillar of libertarianism is more useful than amorphous self-interested slime.
― полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Monday, 16 December 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
Oh look, there’s Justice Roberts sitting next to Secretary of State Pompeo at the Kennedy Center Honors on tv now.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 16 December 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link
was that taped a month ago?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 December 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link
but is it a fact that he's rapidly declining
Usually, his painfully obvious projection is simply loudly shouting that other people are committing the crime that he himself is committing at that moment. Lately he's been going at Biden for Biden's mental acuity, and now:
Because Nancy’s teeth were falling out of her mouth, and she didn’t have time to think! https://t.co/rx3pcyofip— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 15, 2019
Two years ago:
🔥🔥Sooo this is interesting. Trump’s dentures are trying to escape his mouth as this speech is ending. Join the club dentures! Unbelievable. pic.twitter.com/QqYv7whxDF— Power to the People (@KeepMyPowerOrg) December 6, 2017
Looks like he's starting to get sensitive about / aware of aspects of his physical condition, beyond dictating a bullshit health report and then believing it himself.
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 16 December 2019 06:33 (four years ago) link
y'all were right, he's not gonna do the debates
I look very much forward to debating whoever the lucky person is who stumbles across the finish line in the little watched Do Nothing Democrat Debates. My record is so good on the Economy and all else, including debating, that perhaps I would consider more than 3 debates.....— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 16, 2019
....to me, and there are many options, including doing them directly & avoiding the nasty politics of this very biased Commission. I will make a decision at an appropriate time but in the meantime, the Commission on Presidential Debates is NOT authorized to speak for me (or R’s)!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 16, 2019
― frogbs, Monday, 16 December 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
good morning!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
Profound dentural deficiencies
― willem, Monday, 16 December 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link
Ace Dentura, Prez Defective
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link
lol
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
The Polident of the United States of America
Bridgegate II
Make America Chew Again
Grab 'em by the bicuspid
(I could do this all day)
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
Movement of Jaw People
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
America's Teeth Are Falling OutSome Dream Analysts Believe This is a Sign of Financial StressTake It or Leave It, Many Are SayingDONATEDONALDTRUMP2020.COMNOW
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
My Country 'Tis of Teeth
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
for the love of all that is good and holy, stop
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
Ohhhhhh just one more:
His Polygrip on the issues is self-Efferdent.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8UBL5xTNKE
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
this is all-time
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 December 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
agreed, full of wisdom, belongs on a plaque
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 16 December 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
iswydt Hadrian
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
Incredible https://t.co/Jc0e3eaxZN pic.twitter.com/TpXrw9FjiL— David Uberti (@DavidUberti) December 16, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 December 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link
critical support for comrade recep tayyip erdogan
Erdogan threatens to recognise US genocide of Native Americans in response to Armenia ruling https://t.co/XRaJbgnkcL— The Independent (@Independent) December 16, 2019
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
when two turds go to war
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
Hey would you look at that, maybe Erdogan isn't all bad after all.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
a reminder of the massacre of native americans PLUS an implicit turkish admission of the armenian genocide? it's an xmas miracle!
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
can anyone present a positive vision of the future?
seriously, with what's going on, the likely unanimous republican opposition to impeachment, in the face of blatant, self-evident evidence of wrongdoing that is in all likelihood ongoing, supported by masses of complete fucking idiots who vote them in?
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
eh, bother, i know how this conversation goes. i know what kind of whining is tolerable and what is notover to the You will Always be Sad thread i go
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
sorry, do-over. admitting high crimes in real time, week of dec 16th edition:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment
just giuliani saying that he wanted former ambassador Marie Yovanovitch out of the way because she was an impediment to his important investigations about how it was actually ukraine that rigged the 2016 election. it's such a huge coincidence that this is exactly what russia wants the world to believe, and also what trump wants the world to believe. but any connection to russia is laughable because the mueller report exonerated everyone (no one can read or comprehend spoken words in 2019). in addition, no one has even bothered subpoenaing the obvious criminal dipshit in the middle of all this (uh, sorry, giuliani - realize there's multiple contenders), not that it would matter because mcconnell wouldn't allow it anyway. and what is the point, really, when everyone has known for several months that any impeachment proceeding would end up being completely opposed by virtually every voting republican in the united states? here's some goddamn hope: maybe whoever is saying up is down can be tricked into thinking "down" is up again, especially if some rich dumbass on television tells them to do it
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
brb, gotta make a bot representation of nero fiddling so i can watch it in my own private VR while the world burns down, which will actually be good for agriculture yields, is what i heard
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
It's cool, man, I feel like if you aren't occasionally suckerpunched into the dirt by a rogue wave of panic and/or despair these days then you just aren't paying attention.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
it happens.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
paying attn is overrated
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
increasingly painful, too
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
Cunningham of House voting to 'peach
when will the peaching be peached?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
tomorrow
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
it's such a huge coincidence that this is exactly what russia wants the world to believe, and also what trump wants the world to believe. but any connection to russia is laughable because the mueller report exonerated everyone (no one can read or comprehend spoken words in 2019)
Well, to be fair, Karl, some people are saying it totally incriminates Trump while Trump says it totally exonerates him. How can us mere individuals determine whom to believe?
Similarly, Trump says he was offered the Time "Person of the Year" cover but turned it down. Time asserts that this never happened.
Given the conflicting assertions, can you blame most people for simply shrugging and saying "whom shall I believe?"
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
"Equal Time for Liars" was the Jam of 2019; let's not let it continue to 2020
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
btw, "The Lincoln Project"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/opinion/lincoln-project.htmlhttps://lincolnproject.us/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
The 2020 general election, by every indication, will be about persuasion, with turnout expected to be at record highs. Our efforts are aimed at persuading enough disaffected conservatives, Republicans and Republican-leaning independents in swing states and districts to help ensure a victory in the Electoral College, and congressional majorities that don’t enable or abet Mr. Trump’s violations of the Constitution, even if that means Democratic control of the Senate and an expanded Democratic majority in the House.
which republicans could be against the lincoln project, except for 10% or so of republicans who think he is the worst president, for some mysterious reason? i suppose there's also the koch brothers, whose network now spends as much dark money on elections as all of the legit, visible campaign donations, combined. there's also pretty much every single republican member of the house of representatives and the senate, who would not be expected to support a campaign that is defined by its opposition with their primary activity: protecting the president from accountability.
but i suppose a few stray "republicans of conscious" in swing states could be motivated to temporarily join a movement that will be ruthlessly opposed by the very same people they spent the last 40 years voting for
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
REPUBLICANS OF CONSCIENCE
for some reason i keep mixing it up with republicans that are sentient or awake, don't know how i keep making that mistake
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link