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I'm trying to write this piece on this awful awful commentator in Denmark, who is constantly writing about 'identity politics' in the most awful way. She is calling everyone a nazi, defending convicted rapists, thinks being 'non-binary' is ipso facto being a radical fundamentalist identitarian and grounds for firing, basically. She thinks personal communication about potential abusers should be criminalized. She is one of the worst people I know. The idea that I could somehow call her a cunt or a twat or a bitch then, I just don't see where that happens. Still misogyny?

― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Big Fred so brave in not calling for the Danish Melanie Phillips to be hanged, he's gonna destroy her with logic and facts on his blog.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:29 (six years ago)

Andrew - don't you have better ways to spend your quiet Sunday? This weekend you've basically looked at this result and saw that socialism isn't possible (despite some evidence to the contrary...and also that the way in which we are going is not sustainable) and then you've basically called out the crank left on misogyny. Like we know there are cranks on all political parties but I'm not sure what this is leading to. Nobody on here is even thinking about abandoning the left, and some of us are talking about where to go/do next.

Can you actually come up with something on that?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:39 (six years ago)

If I were David Miliband and read this from @chakrabortty I would simply expire on the spot pic.twitter.com/0cgjSIKrlk

— Nesrine Malik (@NesrineMalik) December 14, 2019

gyac, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:08 (six years ago)

So what next for action on climate change in this country? Fairly sure government will do little but give handwavy answers about new technology, while more right wing elements go full-on ecofascist with rhetoric about over-population. I see the UK as being nothing but a retrograde presence at next year’s UN climate conference in Glasgow. I see personal action as being more important than ever but I think we’ve just learnt that the country has wholeheartedly rejected any real change even if it might improve life for ourselves and for our children. We can do amazing things at community level, but this is a problem that demands international action. The only positive I can think of is that at least we won’t now be holding Europe back on this.

the woefullest shirker (NickB), Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:12 (six years ago)

https://www.facebook.com/Standupforscotland/videos/2603970099834842/?t=0

Stevolende, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

Boris attacking BBC now, saying Today program has a pro remain bias and threatening to decriminalize non payment of license fee ... Laura K must be glad her job preservation strategy paid off eh

Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

there won't be so many hard feelings when half the bbc political dept get life peerages

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:23 (six years ago)

Nick B - hopefully there will be international action, just without the UK. Given that Sydney was (is?) skyline is all fog and little on the ground seems to be happening it might be a while.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:24 (six years ago)

Btw, I didn't know what happened to the ABs' account being hacked but it's come up here.

AB’s twitter was hacked and his private messages dumped in public. Interesting discussions between him and Ashcroft about how to neutralise Farage, who had clearly served his purpose.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) December 15, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:26 (six years ago)

International action will not include anything more than backsliding lip service from our fuckstick of a PM.

Actually that not true because at least we have the states and at least the states control energy policy and the states at least understand economics and know that renewables are crazy cheap down here. Doing anything about coal mining, transportation, logging, bushfires, crazy irresponsible land use and water is off the the table.

At least in Australia the states can (even if rarely) act as a counter to federal policy but the big worry in ( as mentioned above) is there will be even more centralisation. Might as well slap a Serco logo on every town hall and have done with it.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

With an issue like this only organisation on General strike levels will get any concessions. The electoral system isn't doing it.

I know that's funny to some, so all I can say is lol we're all gonna die.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:37 (six years ago)

Suzy has probably also seen the horrendous Glamour article gushing over Boris’s girlfriend Carrie, which says he’ll do environmental stuff because it’s important to her. Lol, we’re all going to die.

gyac, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:39 (six years ago)

I saw screen grabs of an offensive pink layout and related complaints but Glamour is for basics, they are not allowed to run their office at Vogue House (true!), do not read.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:43 (six years ago)

Saw a thread with Dunty calling for FBPE types to join Lab but from the few comments most are going on about how Labour is dead. The politically homeless staying homeless then.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:45 (six years ago)

Actually a few people are rejoining (just can't link that car crash) and in sub-threads people are split on Philips and Starmer.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:48 (six years ago)

Word on the ground from my #datasource is that Labour lost around 2 million remainers to remain parties (well done tactical voting!) 700k leavers to leave parties & 400k leavers to remain parties. Which makes all the centrist analysis absolute fucking bollocks as we knew it’d be

— No-one (@judeinlondon2) December 15, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

Undermines any analysis from centrists but it's incredible how 700k loss in leave areas led to such an incredible majority.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:58 (six years ago)

that margin between getting fucking annihilated and a hung parliament is not that many votes with FPTP

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:01 (six years ago)

i mean those 2 million votes only for the LibDems to finish -1 is fucking dialolical!

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:04 (six years ago)

Their vote share was around 12-15 per cent no matter the age group.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:09 (six years ago)

Boris Johnson can begin to win back trust from Northern Irish communities by building a bridge to Scotland to show he is a sincere advocate for Unionism, the DUP's Sammy Wilson has said.

lol, not this nonsense again.

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:46 (six years ago)

Interesting thread imo:

I'm thinking a bit about how if you read yr EP Thompson the labour movement was really born in places like Tolpuddle, and the places where Swing and Luddism happened, and we never expected them to vote Labour after they emptied and became places of retirement, farming and tourism

— Owen Hatherley (@owenhatherley) December 15, 2019

the woefullest shirker (NickB), Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:48 (six years ago)

xp Johnson literally being like “new mandate, who dis”

gyac, Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/4XPJAfQ.jpg

Is... is Johnson knocking the door from inside no 10

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:06 (six years ago)

Also why are rw shitposts always like a screenshot of a screenshot of a meme

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:07 (six years ago)

Guess who was at the very heart of the Boris victory party? pic.twitter.com/45I0KH1ht5

— Pops 🌍 🇮🇪 🇵🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (@DD1958) December 15, 2019

a good reminder why all blue labour can go fuck themselves.

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

tbf to Mandleson, for the first time in my life, he hated Maurice Glasman / Blue Labour long before a lot of other people cottoned on.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:15 (six years ago)

Mandelson isn’t blue Labour, in fact he’d be deeply opposed to them because their “values” explicitly exclude him.

gyac, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:16 (six years ago)

I actually just checked and Hartlepool is still Labour! Only cos Richard Tice racked up 10k votes though.

gyac, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:18 (six years ago)

i forgot Blue Labour are even more bigoted than Red Tories

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:20 (six years ago)

anyway fuck centre-right labour was what I should have said or just a plain old fuck the melts.

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:23 (six years ago)

Lisa Bandy's dad was a Marxist!

People calling for Nandy to be next leader should really listen to her own Dad. pic.twitter.com/xtZuVNhmYp

— jenn (@fieryscot_) December 15, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:23 (six years ago)

*Nandy

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:24 (six years ago)

dad otm

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:24 (six years ago)

Lisa Milibandy

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:34 (six years ago)

the melts having fantasies about Starmer and Phillips versus Blue Labour tossers saying Corbz is paying for placating the posh remainers and turning his back on the working class white communities in the north. There is no winner.

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:38 (six years ago)

Lisa Nandy's dad is not only a Marxist but Indian, so the Daily Mail can merrily accuse him of hating Britain, like they did Ed Miliband's dad.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:44 (six years ago)

Starmer is too fucking smart to get caught up with melts. He might be able to neutralise them, because he looks a certain way, but he isn’t of them. He isn’t a factions guy, and that is borne out by the way he behaved in the shadow cabinet.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:49 (six years ago)

Starmer would be good for the shadow cab.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:51 (six years ago)

this might be just me being a grossly unfair hater, but i think anyone who kneels for that title has already got more compromise in them than I'm willing to accept for a leader of the opposition. But he is allegedly one of best barristers out there and would be fine for shadow cabinet.

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

Agreed. Although I'm still disappointed John Cale accepted that OBE.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:03 (six years ago)

Starmer would be my obvious pick for justice and I think he’d have ended up there if Corbyn had been elected. But agree, he and Cooper probably the worst subjects of melt fanfic on twitter.

gyac, Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:03 (six years ago)

My favourite petty thing about Starmer is that all the pieces about him say “he doesn’t want to be called Sir” and it’s like...why take a knighthood then?!

gyac, Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:04 (six years ago)

I don't think I knew Cale had accepted an OBE, thanks for breaking my heart Tom

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:06 (six years ago)

xp
just so he can impress ppl with his disarming modesty, good weapon is that!

calzino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:08 (six years ago)

I’ll have to ask him but I reckon all DPPs get one on the way out.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:12 (six years ago)

Also I give Blue Labour 10 days before they go pffffft.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:16 (six years ago)

lmao they backed the tories ffs, classic india https://t.co/z4Y8eZynNw

— the grink (@iggigg) December 15, 2019

the replies to her original tweet lol

if I were Sir Keir Starmer, i would modestly insist on not reminding every person I met that Mark Darcy from Bridget Jones was based on me

gyac, Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:23 (six years ago)

Odds on Lisa Nandy cut from 12/1 to 7/2. She’s now ahead of Starmer - with the usual caveats about political betting being meaningless applied. She has no chance imo.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:29 (six years ago)

See also: Evening Standard charity drives under Osborne.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:31 (six years ago)


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