Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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Oh, it's already been. Right, good night.

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Alba, Friday, 13 December 2019 05:11 (four years ago) link

my condolences y'all. some elections suck much worse than others, as we US'ers can attest.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:13 (four years ago) link

K we now have a new leader for strongest correlation, and I think this is narratively significant:

The share of workers in low-skilled jobs was a bigger predictor of swing than either Brexit vote or graduates.

Suggests this was more working class revolt than Brexit election. pic.twitter.com/IJbqQpqY3A

— John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch) December 13, 2019

stet, Friday, 13 December 2019 05:22 (four years ago) link

“New leader for strongest correlation” “narratively significant” whoever this is is a huckster

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:28 (four years ago) link

Had a kip and feel a bit better. Important to note that those lost votes didn’t got to the centre - if the problem was a top left wing labour you’d expect votes to go to the LDs and Greens, not Brexit and Tories.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:39 (four years ago) link

Now we just need Sinker to arise and christen this new era in a new thread

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link

well as a number of people have pointed out the vote share was same as 15 and 10. policies didn’t perform any worse. tories performed a lot better and the demographic upheavals are tectonic.

Fizzles, Friday, 13 December 2019 05:53 (four years ago) link

one hour till i land. feel bleak, sad and upset beyond belief tbh. a vile government.

Fizzles, Friday, 13 December 2019 05:55 (four years ago) link

Sorry, friends

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:56 (four years ago) link

managed to get to sleep just before 10, woke up with a sense of dread at 4am and couldn't face looking at the news until now. fuck.

toby, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:01 (four years ago) link

All I'm saying is, let's not spend too much time in devastation and shock. The odds were always against us. Let's start in Britain the work already begun by heroic dissidents in other places: crafting a new political landscape, stone by patient stone. There's no other choice.

— Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:03 (four years ago) link

The contempt for people who were fucking burned alive


As Stephen Bush said in the local elections, a lot of Kensington voters didn’t care about it and the proof was, well, Grenfell Tower.

Went to bed after reading a rumour that Ed Miliband would lose, thankfully they didn’t. But fucking hell, these results. See Stroud went Tory as predicted because the Greens insisted their candidate could win based on Euro election results. Well done everyone.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:09 (four years ago) link

i’ll spend some time in devastation and shock thanks. ffs. it’s a legitimate and reasonable response. it’s not going to change my politics and desire to fight for them obviously. it does change significantly how i feel about the mid-term future. this is the work of a decade.

Fizzles, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:10 (four years ago) link

Expect more and more of this as our rabidly far right media stoke hatred and division https://t.co/a485W5wLrv

— Simon Vessey (@Simon_Vessey) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:24 (four years ago) link

Tactical voting.

Stroud: Con GAIN

CON: 47.9% (+2.0)
LAB: 42.1% (-4.9)
GRN: 7.5% (+5.3)
BREX: 1.6% (+1.6)
OTH: 0.9% (+0.9)

Swing: Lab to Con (+3.4)
Turnout: 78.0%
Full results: https://t.co/wVfQPUtvng #GE2019

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:25 (four years ago) link

I think Greens and Lib Dems probably lost lab around 10-20 seats(?) not the full story by any means.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:27 (four years ago) link

State of this

The swing from Labour to Conservative was typical of the average in Remain seats, about 6%

Voters chose Green because they did not trust Labour under Corbyn or Conservatives under Johnson

Labour need to take responsibility for their own failings https://t.co/Xy1QO2H5G3

— Molly💚Stroud (@MollyMEP) December 13, 2019

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:32 (four years ago) link

Chuka to become a fucking lord

Cities of London and Westminster: Con HOLD

CON: 39.9% (-6.7)
LDEM: 30.7% (+19.7)
LAB: 27.2% (-11.2)
GRN: 1.7% (-0.4)
OTH: 0.3% (+0.3)

Full results: https://t.co/pHAmhckPls #GE2019

Chuka Umunna fails.

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:33 (four years ago) link

Our constituency was a labour hold, his vote was the slightly down. The cons were down a lot, libdems up a lot percentage wise but third.

Mark G, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:34 (four years ago) link

Chucka to become a Goldman Sachs banker.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 13 December 2019 06:38 (four years ago) link

Oh *come on*, "Scotland style realignment"? Labour did actually still win the vote and most seats in the north! https://t.co/wr2MNI4wfV

— Simon (@simonk_133) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:38 (four years ago) link

"Leave voter" is a culture war identity, not a market with specific coherently held opinions on the UK's future relationship with the European Union. It's much more consistent with "join the EEA and hang the paedos" than it is with any socially liberal Lexit vision

— John B (@johnb78) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:44 (four years ago) link

Yep I was just going to link that.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 06:57 (four years ago) link

This definitely feels like a collapse of British small-l-liberalism.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 13 December 2019 06:59 (four years ago) link

The election was a choice between Johnson:

GET BREXIT DONE

and Corbyn:

PUT ME IN DOWNING STREET WITH THE IRA AND YOUR LIFE’S SAVINGS WHILE I SIT IT OUT ON BREXIT AND ANTISEMITISM

Which wasn’t much of a contest

— Andrew Adonis (@Andrew_Adonis) December 13, 2019

when you’re less credible than Julius Nicholson

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:01 (four years ago) link

Like Andrew Adonis and his people’s vote friends pushed the party to the Brexit position against the leadership instincts. You can’t argue that Corbyn’s initial instinct was wrong, and yet...

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:03 (four years ago) link

Gove framing this as a people’s victory over extremism and anti-semitism

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:12 (four years ago) link

Fuck me gove is a cunt

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:13 (four years ago) link

‘The People’s Government’ - fuck this forever

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:13 (four years ago) link

Off to work in the shadow of Grenfell this morning. In five years time who knows what the burnt husk of the whole country will look like. Its a sad thing, this bruised place, self-harming. I'm distraught.

plax (ico), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:16 (four years ago) link

How can this disingenuous fuck talk about funding the nhs with a straight face.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:17 (four years ago) link

It’s easy when you get a free ride from the press no matter what

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:18 (four years ago) link

43% of the country voted for an organisation whose leader has made openly racist and homophobic comments and I genuinely don't know how to process that. Two in every five people actively went into a ballot box and put a cross beside the name of someone whose values align with discrimination against people like me. How are you meant to get on with everyday life knowing that these people are out there, in the world, shaping our society, thinking about you as something worth less.

boxedjoy, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:19 (four years ago) link

sorry for being so fatalistic but I don't think I can face the emotional labour of merely existing in this culture for half a decade and beyond

boxedjoy, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:20 (four years ago) link

idk, as a non-white person I just price the racism in from some of the country. Remember the 3/5 that are good, actually.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:22 (four years ago) link

I'm joining the labour party today. fuck the wreckers. Andrew Adonis literally blaming "unaccountable activists" thousands of people who gave up their free time knocking on doors for no glory just the hope of making the world better. It's disgusting. Irony is he himself has never been elected unless I'm mistaken.

plax (ico), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:26 (four years ago) link

in passport control. someone loudly going “no more of this crap having to queue with foreigners”. cool. cool.

Fizzles, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:37 (four years ago) link

Although ironically they just opened the egates to a range of non-eu ‘good’ foereigners

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:41 (four years ago) link

The untempered anti-Europe rhetoric we’re going to have as withdrawal negotiations go pear-shaped

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:44 (four years ago) link

This is disastrous and grim and to be honest I just want to do something else and stop engaging for a while as it sinks in.

I don't think anyone can escape a share of the responsibility/blame here but my main worry is that the Labour Party takes this as a signal to dial up the anti-immigration sentiment again. Next Labour leadership election won't be fought on straight left-right lines or even on austerity, it'll be on attitudes to migration and Europe. It's the Blue Labour group than I'm worried about.

Matt DC, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:45 (four years ago) link

Really good on the people lost to politics:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/12/labour-leave-voters-politics-general-election-brexit

Halfway through I got to thinking "hmm talk to John Harris about this?!" but the damage is done.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:46 (four years ago) link

This is disastrous and grim and to be honest I just want to do something else and stop engaging for a while as it sinks in.

I don't think anyone can escape a share of the responsibility/blame here but my main worry is that the Labour Party takes this as a signal to dial up the anti-immigration sentiment again. Next Labour leadership election won't be fought on straight left-right lines or even on austerity, it'll be on attitudes to migration and Europe. It's the Blue Labour group than I'm worried about.


The activists aren’t going to shore this viewpoint up, they’re not going back to this. But agree on need for distraction. Will dip out for a bit and game/read/sleep or something.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:48 (four years ago) link

Reconnecting with these voters...not sure what it will take, or how long, or how...certainly bussing a load of canvassers to marginals for a day isn't it XP to the guardian piece

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:49 (four years ago) link

I'm joining the labour party today. fuck the wreckers. Andrew Adonis literally blaming "unaccountable activists" thousands of people who gave up their free time knocking on doors for no glory just the hope of making the world better. It's disgusting. Irony is he himself has never been elected unless I'm mistaken.


Thousands of people out in rain and cold for a manifesto they believed in and had input on.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:49 (four years ago) link

brexit is our bovine tuberculosis and there needs to be a cull

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 07:52 (four years ago) link

43% of the country voted for an organisation whose leader has made openly racist and homophobic comments and I genuinely don't know how to process that. Two in every five people actively went into a ballot box and put a cross beside the name of someone whose values align with discrimination against people like me. How are you meant to get on with everyday life knowing that these people are out there, in the world, shaping our society, thinking about you as something worth less.


Think this is the thing, living and working and existing in spaces with people who seem nice and normal but who have this. But I guess in another way it’s just masks off stuff. Racism embedded structurally and mainstreamed by politicians for electoral gain, breathed into the atmosphere by newspapers and the BBC. People need to have each other’s backs through this.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link

[BUG REPORT] to the attention of the higher beings who programmed this simulation

Your human test subjects on project Earth have been stuck in the "it's surprisingly easy to get people to vote against their own interests" algorithm for about five years now, suggest you terminate the experiment, you've got your proof by now.

StanM, Friday, 13 December 2019 07:59 (four years ago) link

I have a six hour work Christmas lunch ahead which to be honest I am not in the mood for but being away from a screen/the real world for a few hours will probably help.

Matt DC, Friday, 13 December 2019 08:01 (four years ago) link

I don't think anyone can escape a share of the responsibility/blame here but my main worry is that the Labour Party takes this as a signal to dial up the anti-immigration sentiment again.

Australian Labor's response to losing the election this May was to start arguing that the existing concentration camps aren't harsh or full enough, actually

insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 13 December 2019 08:02 (four years ago) link

er xpost don't read that Matt :(

insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 13 December 2019 08:02 (four years ago) link


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