Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

ha, was just about to say the same. bye at last stuart maconie.

oof

2017
Leader - Corbyn
Manifesto - radical, socialist
Referendum - respect result

2019
Leader - Corbyn
Manifesto - radical, socialist
Referendum - have another one

— vote labour today 📈 (@lara_eleanor) December 13, 2019

When I was reading all the stats about voter breakdown by age, I was thinking about the Joyce line about Ireland. That the country is “the old sow that eats her farrow.”

The other thing I’m pondering is the level of contempt older people seem to have for everyone else, including their own children and grandchildren, although I at least have the beginnings of a theory on this.

— Socialist Dad (@shirleymush) December 12, 2019

Yeah 86 is right and unless a lot of chaos comes along they are here for 10 years.

The thing is a lot of chaos might come along, and that is sad and awful.

my worry was there was some rule where people who hadn't been a member for a certain amount of time weren't allowed to vote in some internal Labour election a while ago (Owen Smith maybe? or did I imagine it) so I worry I'll sign up and pay money to a party that will elect Liz Kendall or something. OK that's probably just going to be £50 which I can afford and the risk of me being pissed off I gave money to some dickhead is probably worth a gamble. OK

Absolutely correct. Totally critical that a convincing left-wing alternative is built upon and promoted over the next few years of whatever shit we have to live through.

There are plenty of reasons to expect that the global economy is in for some pretty bad times in the not at all distant future, and we need a credible alternative.

Join labour now.

Many xps

This bbc prediction thing is like one of those zombie movies where tories keep bursting through your windows all over the place

Labour down 18% in Sunderland.

We're getting murdered here.

It’s not just the Tories that own the Brexit to come, the majority of England and Wales does now. And the papers, too. Admitting it was all a mistake will be an impossibility, and so the parties of the left won’t even be able to point out the truth of what has gone wrong in the years to come.

It will be like trying to change “labour caused the crash” on a massive scale.

Gareth Snell was already on the list, but what a total cunt. At least stfu until you've actually lost your seat, dickhead.

Oh good here’s Aaron Banks

Labour down 18% in Sunderland.

Say what you want about the Lib Dems but I think we can all agree that Jo Swinson was on to something with that nuclear button

I would say I'm going to emigrate, but after Brexit I won't be able to. the scum have not only fucked this country but made it so we can't leave it. where would I go anyway. this world is a crule ringmaster or something

It's this or nothing. I know a lot of us are trying to formulate what it will look like, but a militant and caring anti-fascist movement is more urgent day by day. https://t.co/ElufngJGVX

— ciao! ciao! ciao! (@MediocreDave) December 13, 2019

As someone with a British and euro passport I wouldn't think of leaving.

Solidarity and love to the UK. Seeing a lot of reactions that feel like how it felt in Australia last year.

I do sometimes wonder if I have too much faith in humanity that I expect anything besides what has happened here.

The trend in the Anglosphere is increasingly people only giving a shit about what they and their immediate family need and absolutely fuck everyone and everything else. There are so many reasons for this, politically and culturally, that it feels like an unstoppable train. I sometimes feel that a huge, visible disaster on a global scale is the only thing that could possibly shock people into thinking about the humanity of someone other than themselves in this current social and political climate.

Who is this wanker on bbc now

Not that one or that one, the other one

Excuse sincerity, but (a) I'm desperately proud to be in the same party as the people I'm in the same party as, and (b) people will tell us it's because we weren't sufficiently racist or vicious to the poor, and they will need to be told very firmly to fuck off

— PDK "you should’ve voted labour" Mitchell (@pdkmitchell) December 13, 2019

I sometimes feel that a huge, visible disaster on a global scale is the only thing that could possibly shock people into thinking about the humanity of someone other than themselves in this current social and political climate.

Bet on the USA leading the way there.

The trend in the Anglosphere is increasingly people only giving a shit about what they and their immediate family need and absolutely fuck everyone and everything else.

I think we're actually past that now, we're approaching a nihilistic stage where people don't even seem to care if their own lives are fucked.

Yeah this isn’t people thinking about their families ffs

You’ll still see people suggesting Keir Starmer would have done better (!)

One of those people being Keir Starmer.

I feel so empty. I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow morning first thing. My ailment feels so meagre in the face of all this it feels ridiculous going in now.

I love how the whole Tory campaign was ‘get brexit done’ and after the exit polls all the tories were like ‘this was all about brexit’ and now the standard labour wankstains are all ‘this was nothing to do with brexit it’s all about Jeremy Corbyn we need to bring back soft labour’

That's where the fight will be in the next few months.

Yep

/The trend in the Anglosphere is increasingly people only giving a shit about what they and their immediate family need and absolutely fuck everyone and everything else./

I think we're actually past that now, we're approaching a nihilistic stage where people don't even seem to care if their own lives are fucked.

Just noticed Quadrophenia is on Film 4, never seen it before.

Is there any channel covering this election where everyone isn’t a complete dongburger?

The trend in the Anglosphere is increasingly people only giving a shit about what they and their immediate family need and absolutely fuck everyone and everything else. There are so many reasons for this, politically and culturally, that it feels like an unstoppable train. I sometimes feel that a huge, visible disaster on a global scale is the only thing that could possibly shock people into thinking about the humanity of someone other than themselves in this current social and political climate.

― triggercut, Friday, 13 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Easy to be seduced by this line of thinking but people got Brexit on their heads. The ref in 2016 must be fulfilled, whatever the consequences.

And now it will.

Or rather, people don't think of consequences..not sure this can be mapped to Australia.

Caught a bit of C4's 'comedy' coverage a while back - Johnson Sr said women in burkha's shouldn'y be allowed to fly fighter planes. Nish Kumar tore stips off him tbf but still what the fuck

*shouldn't. damn phone

Jesus fuck

It's coal, climate change and the right to be a racist/sexist/homophobic/islamaphobic cunt rather than Brexit here - but the effect is much the same.

Australia is largely on the vote for yourself and fuck your immediate family tip, given that the last election largely fell on franking credits for retiree homeowners

“Corbyn delivered Hard Brexit” doesn’t quite work when he gains 50 seats offering a soft Brexit but loses 70 offering a 2nd referendum. You wanted a Brexit election, you got high on euro election voting. Own it.

— Vote Labour - Downing Street Source (@judeinlondon2) December 12, 2019

anti China whilst taking their money is in there somewhere as well

xpost w/ Ed - those are absolutely major agendas of the government, not sure they were as prominent with voters in May as they are for policy in November

C4 comedy has been full of centrist shite anyway. the Last Leg was fairly lefty until Corbyn came along, then suddenly a moderate social democractic manifesto suddenly becomes "pissy Corbyn" and his wacky marxist ideas

plus that bloke looks shit with that beard

Climate change just hasn't played a part.

As I often said in the thread there was a feeling that Corbynism merely arrested the decline of Labour in its poor Northern regions for a while. Too little, too late. I don't quite see how you map it to Australia.

In 2017 the Lab manifesto got a hearing.

XP to Ed.

Of course the racism toward migrants as cover for the decline in public services due to austerity got a hearing too. But it isn't the whole story

feel cold about the gloating, but more assured of who has my back. have been ringing despairing friends and comforting. any centrists gloating or told-you-soing are, obviously pricks, and I stand by my repeated opinion that they’ll get us all killed. Maybe it was naive to challenge nihilism with hope, but at least I know who the real threat is.

btw looks like two cities will fall to labour so the efforts of xyzzzzz and TH not entirely in vain :)
― gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Richer London areas voting for Remain then, lol.

Labour win Putney