Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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hope this is the last time we ever have to hear from kate hoey

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:59 (six years ago)

Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out. Johnson unlikely to ever grant an indyref he might lose, but the country is clearly backing one. So, what? Illegitimate one? Some kind of rammy, surely.

Putting money on a stooshie. Failing that, a stramash.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:04 (six years ago)

One Conservative on the train, walked past a bunch of downcast Labour people with badges on. Face of anger and contempt, "Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

Can't even enjoy the win. It's the nihilism, same with Brexit, there'll be no street parties for them, just grim joyless determination.

This weird kind of subtext of 'I got the result I voted for but its your fault. so I am still angry"

anvil, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:05 (six years ago)

just learned that rammy is a scottish word from my english colleagues' bemusement.

stet, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:05 (six years ago)

That was my MP on the BBC just now, a while ago they were saying he was predicted to hold at the time of the exit poll but actually it might be really close. Still turned up with a shit eating grin, when asked about the SNP rout he just turned it around to the predicted tory Westminster majority, "now we can get things done". Since his election this man has never set foot in my town, no exaggeration, actually never. They post me a lot of shit, it is hilarious how identical it is to the SNP literature, both of them "ONLY THE TORIES OR THE SNP CAN WIN THIS SEAT! NICOLA STURGEON (never the SNP, only Sturgeon) will give us indyref2!" So I voted SNP, not specifically for "indyref2", just the one of the two parties that can win here that doesn't want to actively kill me.

My brother in England somewhere turned off his phone and went to bed after the exit poll, I promised him I'd stop drinking and stop watching this, I think we both knew that wasn't happening. I've drunk 12 cans of 6.2% neapolitan icecream flavoured pale ale, switching to vodka+squash now. I miss my cat.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:05 (six years ago)

"Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out"

Scotland isn't Catalonia. They can be radicalised though, as bad shit is more likely to happen.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:06 (six years ago)

One Conservative on the train, walked past a bunch of downcast Labour people with badges on. Face of anger and contempt, "Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

Can't even enjoy the win. It's the nihilism, same with Brexit, there'll be no street parties for them, just grim joyless determination.

This weird kind of subtext of 'I got the result I voted for but its your fault. so I am still angry"


They can’t even enjoy the misery they’ve inflicted on the people they hate. Ia, it is nihilism.

My kitten is licking my dried tears off my face, we will all still be here tomorrow.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:09 (six years ago)

"To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness. What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives."

— festive 'gentle slide into fascism' (@setalyas) December 12, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:10 (six years ago)

We sure will Gyac. Kitty <3

Good night to all of youse. It is the night to express appreciation for this thread and the people who inhabit it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:12 (six years ago)

Scotland isn't Catalonia.

Indeed, Catalonia is much wealthier and more middle class.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:13 (six years ago)

"Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

I'm not trying to hardman but I probably would've had a go tbh. although sitting with one of the directors of the company, that would probably not have been a good idea. he is a strong Labour voter tbf.

anyway I'm home now, just simmering in a pool of my own hate

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:14 (six years ago)

LOL exit poll suggest calz was right to lash out at the Welsh after all!

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:14 (six years ago)

lol I saw someone (an ilxor) post something about how the rest of the UK should break away from England and resisted the urge to post, hang on the Welsh are a bunch of cunts as well!

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:17 (six years ago)

Bleakest of lols at the remain alliance crowd. They’re still blaming Labour for “not cooperating”.

Blyth Valley - Tories win by 1,000, while 3,000 people vote for Greens and Libdems. Thanks a lot.

— Chris McKenzie (@ChrisMcK2018) December 12, 2019

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:18 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsu6ZsWIMIY

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:18 (six years ago)

as a borders person I can report that Wales is like 50% the worst sort of English people

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:20 (six years ago)

I mean actually English

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:20 (six years ago)

I think Blyth Valley might end up getting gerrymandered to Wales after the next boundary reforms!

calzino, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:23 (six years ago)

sad to report that baggymp on channel 4 is pulling all the tools from his twatbag

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:25 (six years ago)

is it too late to join the Labour so I can vote for literally anyone from the left of the party to stop them replacing Corbyn with some Blairite scum?

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:26 (six years ago)

scottish labour rightists on twitter giving it laldy as if their recipe of unionism and remain was what was called for at this election.

labour in scotland needs to have a conversation about independence if it wants to continue to have any relevance

no colonel poo it isn't!

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:27 (six years ago)

I'm not trying to hardman but I probably would've had a go tbh

I didn't really expect it as it came out of blue, and I felt dispirited rather than angry

What made me more angry was a lib dem kind of guy that was 'helpfully' trying to explain to people that at least a large majority means Boris can ignore the ERG and have a softer brexit, and mate no one gaf about your soft brexit right now mr slacks

anvil, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:29 (six years ago)

xp or not

I had idle plans to do that anyway expecting this result, but I didn't expect the result to be this bad even though I knew it was likely to be shit

I even went to sign up but balked a bit at the £50-odd a year but tbh I could probably afford that, provided I don't totally shit the bed and tell my job to go fuck itself, which isn't 100% guaranteed I won't do in the next couple of weeks

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:29 (six years ago)

Def isn't. Join and elect a left leader. Need to keep pushing the same policies. That's fight on the electoral front, anyway..XP to CP

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:30 (six years ago)

Swindon north was labour til 2010

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:31 (six years ago)

now 16,000 tory majority

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:31 (six years ago)

"Nicola Sturgeon is the most divisive politician in Scotland" - Some Tory boy HAHAHA

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:32 (six years ago)

Labour boy says it's people "down south" nipping at the Scottish

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:33 (six years ago)

I fear the 86 majority was, if you excuse the pun, conservative, I can see them getting more - they're projected to get almost twice as many seats as Labour as it is.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:33 (six years ago)

Join and elect a left leader. Need to keep pushing the same policies. That's fight on the electoral front, anyway..XP to CP

This is correct, though it feels a bit far away right now. This isn't a failure of the last 2 years, its a failure of the last 40 years, and UK isn't alone, its the same pattern repeated again and again. These are things which develop and unfurl over decades not months, no simple redress, not that I'm feeling in a post-mortem mood

anvil, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:35 (six years ago)

Never been an easier night for hard pruning of your Twitter follows

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:39 (six years ago)

ha, was just about to say the same. bye at last stuart maconie.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:40 (six years ago)

oof

2017
Leader - Corbyn
Manifesto - radical, socialist
Referendum - respect result

2019
Leader - Corbyn
Manifesto - radical, socialist
Referendum - have another one

— vote labour today 📈 (@lara_eleanor) December 13, 2019

nashwan, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:40 (six years ago)

When I was reading all the stats about voter breakdown by age, I was thinking about the Joyce line about Ireland. That the country is “the old sow that eats her farrow.”

The other thing I’m pondering is the level of contempt older people seem to have for everyone else, including their own children and grandchildren, although I at least have the beginnings of a theory on this.

— Socialist Dad (@shirleymush) December 12, 2019

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:41 (six years ago)

Yeah 86 is right and unless a lot of chaos comes along they are here for 10 years.

The thing is a lot of chaos might come along, and that is sad and awful.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:41 (six years ago)

my worry was there was some rule where people who hadn't been a member for a certain amount of time weren't allowed to vote in some internal Labour election a while ago (Owen Smith maybe? or did I imagine it) so I worry I'll sign up and pay money to a party that will elect Liz Kendall or something. OK that's probably just going to be £50 which I can afford and the risk of me being pissed off I gave money to some dickhead is probably worth a gamble. OK

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:42 (six years ago)

Absolutely correct. Totally critical that a convincing left-wing alternative is built upon and promoted over the next few years of whatever shit we have to live through.

There are plenty of reasons to expect that the global economy is in for some pretty bad times in the not at all distant future, and we need a credible alternative.

Join labour now.

Blandford Forum, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:43 (six years ago)

Many xps

Blandford Forum, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:44 (six years ago)

This bbc prediction thing is like one of those zombie movies where tories keep bursting through your windows all over the place

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:44 (six years ago)

Labour down 18% in Sunderland.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:46 (six years ago)

We're getting murdered here.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:47 (six years ago)

It’s not just the Tories that own the Brexit to come, the majority of England and Wales does now. And the papers, too. Admitting it was all a mistake will be an impossibility, and so the parties of the left won’t even be able to point out the truth of what has gone wrong in the years to come.

It will be like trying to change “labour caused the crash” on a massive scale.

stet, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:47 (six years ago)

Gareth Snell was already on the list, but what a total cunt. At least stfu until you've actually lost your seat, dickhead.

calzino, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:51 (six years ago)

Oh good here’s Aaron Banks

Blandford Forum, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:53 (six years ago)

Labour down 18% in Sunderland.


Brexit party share. Not even Lab to Con really. Literally the single issue party.


bUt LaBoUr WoUlD bE TwEnTy PoInTs AhEaD iF iT cAmE oUt FoR rEmAiN

You’ll still see people suggesting Keir Starmer would have done better (!)

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:54 (six years ago)

Say what you want about the Lib Dems but I think we can all agree that Jo Swinson was on to something with that nuclear button

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:55 (six years ago)

I would say I'm going to emigrate, but after Brexit I won't be able to. the scum have not only fucked this country but made it so we can't leave it. where would I go anyway. this world is a crule ringmaster or something

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:55 (six years ago)

It's this or nothing. I know a lot of us are trying to formulate what it will look like, but a militant and caring anti-fascist movement is more urgent day by day. https://t.co/ElufngJGVX

— ciao! ciao! ciao! (@MediocreDave) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:56 (six years ago)

As someone with a British and euro passport I wouldn't think of leaving.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:58 (six years ago)

Solidarity and love to the UK. Seeing a lot of reactions that feel like how it felt in Australia last year.

I do sometimes wonder if I have too much faith in humanity that I expect anything besides what has happened here.

The trend in the Anglosphere is increasingly people only giving a shit about what they and their immediate family need and absolutely fuck everyone and everything else. There are so many reasons for this, politically and culturally, that it feels like an unstoppable train. I sometimes feel that a huge, visible disaster on a global scale is the only thing that could possibly shock people into thinking about the humanity of someone other than themselves in this current social and political climate.

triggercut, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:58 (six years ago)


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