Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

And a massively diminished press at that. This is what media collapse feels like, really.

gyac
Posted: 20 July 2018 at 09:44:16
Oh and by the way, fuck the complicit media letting people parrot “no deal is better than a bad deal” completely unchallenged. That something favoured by maybe 10% of people at an absolute maximum is seriously under consideration is nothing less than a dereliction of duty and everyone who let this shit go by unchallenged or undiscussed deserves to be completely ashamed.

xxp love you calz

brexit appeals to a kind of patriotic brain-stem mode of thinking that doesn't admit of actual detail and the tories quickly and successfully aligned themselves with that patriotic mode. it left labour with no good choices. there really isn't any other reason for anyone in blyth to vote for boris johnson and the tories that i can make out (i have been to blyth! it was a long time ago though)

I took him out for a few miler walk with a four-pack and we both feel better for it tbh!

― calzino, Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

good man (and boy)

Not sure this means anything to anyone but I love these threads and they have got me through a lot, and I love talking to you all about this shit. It helps to put it out there and talk about it rather than just drive myself mad with it.

Here's another thing - stop talking about 'former mining towns' as though social, historical, economic, demographic change doesn't happen. 'Current call centre town' or 'Sports Direct warehouse town' would be much more useful.

— Joe Kennedy (@joekennedy81) December 12, 2019

Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out. Johnson unlikely to ever grant an indyref he might lose, but the country is clearly backing one. So, what? Illegitimate one? Some kind of rammy, surely.

xps to gyac - yes, feels much better having this thread. 2015 I was in China and had a performance review with my two horrible bosses just as the results were coming in, felt completely alone and hopeless.

hope this is the last time we ever have to hear from kate hoey

Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out. Johnson unlikely to ever grant an indyref he might lose, but the country is clearly backing one. So, what? Illegitimate one? Some kind of rammy, surely.

Putting money on a stooshie. Failing that, a stramash.

One Conservative on the train, walked past a bunch of downcast Labour people with badges on. Face of anger and contempt, "Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

Can't even enjoy the win. It's the nihilism, same with Brexit, there'll be no street parties for them, just grim joyless determination.

This weird kind of subtext of 'I got the result I voted for but its your fault. so I am still angry"

just learned that rammy is a scottish word from my english colleagues' bemusement.

That was my MP on the BBC just now, a while ago they were saying he was predicted to hold at the time of the exit poll but actually it might be really close. Still turned up with a shit eating grin, when asked about the SNP rout he just turned it around to the predicted tory Westminster majority, "now we can get things done". Since his election this man has never set foot in my town, no exaggeration, actually never. They post me a lot of shit, it is hilarious how identical it is to the SNP literature, both of them "ONLY THE TORIES OR THE SNP CAN WIN THIS SEAT! NICOLA STURGEON (never the SNP, only Sturgeon) will give us indyref2!" So I voted SNP, not specifically for "indyref2", just the one of the two parties that can win here that doesn't want to actively kill me.

My brother in England somewhere turned off his phone and went to bed after the exit poll, I promised him I'd stop drinking and stop watching this, I think we both knew that wasn't happening. I've drunk 12 cans of 6.2% neapolitan icecream flavoured pale ale, switching to vodka+squash now. I miss my cat.

"Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out"

Scotland isn't Catalonia. They can be radicalised though, as bad shit is more likely to happen.

One Conservative on the train, walked past a bunch of downcast Labour people with badges on. Face of anger and contempt, "Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

Can't even enjoy the win. It's the nihilism, same with Brexit, there'll be no street parties for them, just grim joyless determination.

This weird kind of subtext of 'I got the result I voted for but its your fault. so I am still angry"

"To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness. What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives."

— festive 'gentle slide into fascism' (@setalyas) December 12, 2019

We sure will Gyac. Kitty <3

Good night to all of youse. It is the night to express appreciation for this thread and the people who inhabit it.

Scotland isn't Catalonia.

Indeed, Catalonia is much wealthier and more middle class.

"Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

I'm not trying to hardman but I probably would've had a go tbh. although sitting with one of the directors of the company, that would probably not have been a good idea. he is a strong Labour voter tbf.

anyway I'm home now, just simmering in a pool of my own hate

LOL exit poll suggest calz was right to lash out at the Welsh after all!

lol I saw someone (an ilxor) post something about how the rest of the UK should break away from England and resisted the urge to post, hang on the Welsh are a bunch of cunts as well!

Bleakest of lols at the remain alliance crowd. They’re still blaming Labour for “not cooperating”.

Blyth Valley - Tories win by 1,000, while 3,000 people vote for Greens and Libdems. Thanks a lot.

— Chris McKenzie (@ChrisMcK2018) December 12, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsu6ZsWIMIY

as a borders person I can report that Wales is like 50% the worst sort of English people

I mean actually English

I think Blyth Valley might end up getting gerrymandered to Wales after the next boundary reforms!

sad to report that baggymp on channel 4 is pulling all the tools from his twatbag

is it too late to join the Labour so I can vote for literally anyone from the left of the party to stop them replacing Corbyn with some Blairite scum?

scottish labour rightists on twitter giving it laldy as if their recipe of unionism and remain was what was called for at this election.

labour in scotland needs to have a conversation about independence if it wants to continue to have any relevance

no colonel poo it isn't!

I'm not trying to hardman but I probably would've had a go tbh

I didn't really expect it as it came out of blue, and I felt dispirited rather than angry

What made me more angry was a lib dem kind of guy that was 'helpfully' trying to explain to people that at least a large majority means Boris can ignore the ERG and have a softer brexit, and mate no one gaf about your soft brexit right now mr slacks

xp or not

I had idle plans to do that anyway expecting this result, but I didn't expect the result to be this bad even though I knew it was likely to be shit

I even went to sign up but balked a bit at the £50-odd a year but tbh I could probably afford that, provided I don't totally shit the bed and tell my job to go fuck itself, which isn't 100% guaranteed I won't do in the next couple of weeks

Def isn't. Join and elect a left leader. Need to keep pushing the same policies. That's fight on the electoral front, anyway..XP to CP

Swindon north was labour til 2010

now 16,000 tory majority

"Nicola Sturgeon is the most divisive politician in Scotland" - Some Tory boy HAHAHA

Labour boy says it's people "down south" nipping at the Scottish

I fear the 86 majority was, if you excuse the pun, conservative, I can see them getting more - they're projected to get almost twice as many seats as Labour as it is.

Join and elect a left leader. Need to keep pushing the same policies. That's fight on the electoral front, anyway..XP to CP

This is correct, though it feels a bit far away right now. This isn't a failure of the last 2 years, its a failure of the last 40 years, and UK isn't alone, its the same pattern repeated again and again. These are things which develop and unfurl over decades not months, no simple redress, not that I'm feeling in a post-mortem mood

Never been an easier night for hard pruning of your Twitter follows

ha, was just about to say the same. bye at last stuart maconie.

oof

2017
Leader - Corbyn
Manifesto - radical, socialist
Referendum - respect result

2019
Leader - Corbyn
Manifesto - radical, socialist
Referendum - have another one

— vote labour today 📈 (@lara_eleanor) December 13, 2019

When I was reading all the stats about voter breakdown by age, I was thinking about the Joyce line about Ireland. That the country is “the old sow that eats her farrow.”

The other thing I’m pondering is the level of contempt older people seem to have for everyone else, including their own children and grandchildren, although I at least have the beginnings of a theory on this.

— Socialist Dad (@shirleymush) December 12, 2019

Yeah 86 is right and unless a lot of chaos comes along they are here for 10 years.

The thing is a lot of chaos might come along, and that is sad and awful.

my worry was there was some rule where people who hadn't been a member for a certain amount of time weren't allowed to vote in some internal Labour election a while ago (Owen Smith maybe? or did I imagine it) so I worry I'll sign up and pay money to a party that will elect Liz Kendall or something. OK that's probably just going to be £50 which I can afford and the risk of me being pissed off I gave money to some dickhead is probably worth a gamble. OK

Absolutely correct. Totally critical that a convincing left-wing alternative is built upon and promoted over the next few years of whatever shit we have to live through.

There are plenty of reasons to expect that the global economy is in for some pretty bad times in the not at all distant future, and we need a credible alternative.

Join labour now.

Many xps

This bbc prediction thing is like one of those zombie movies where tories keep bursting through your windows all over the place

Labour down 18% in Sunderland.

We're getting murdered here.