Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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You can’t pin that loss on the Lib Dems, labour blew a huge majority

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:35 (six years ago)

Very grim in the short-term but fighting until there is nothing left for nobody is all we have.

I know it's not the time but Lab just need to keep offering socialism, even if the country chooses barbarism.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:36 (six years ago)

First instinct is just to fuck off back up to Scotland or off somewhere else, but it’s such a gross privileged position to be in to even think like that.

Blandford Forum, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:37 (six years ago)

the Welsh letting us down again!

calzino, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:37 (six years ago)

You can’t pin that loss on the Lib Dems, labour blew a huge majority

― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:35 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

obvious prediction: brexity labour areas will fall to the tories. second ref vs get brexit done is a no brainer for the gammon. this is where the bloodbath will stem from

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:38 (six years ago)

You can’t pin that loss on the Lib Dems, labour blew a huge majority


Did they? If voters are voting for Brexit and that’s all they care about, what should they have done?

gyac, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:38 (six years ago)

(xxp) Blyth Valley has a large Welsh community, does it?

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:39 (six years ago)

oops wrongly scapegoating the Welsh again, better check myself!

I'm still in the first stage of denial, maybe it just happened that loads of IPSOS/Mori cunts only bumped into Tory voting cunts at 144 (or whatever number it is) polling stations:p

calzino, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

Bit early for an autopsy, but maybe if they got their central brexit message out clearer, cleaner and quicker?

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

The kittens and talking to friends are helping. Please look after yourselves. We have to pull together more than ever now.

And I feel never sadder to be right about a 2nd ref being a disaster. What can you do when a plurality of people have been radicalised like this? The work to undo that is granular and takes time.

gyac, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

Xps to gyac

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

If Blyth Valley's gone the exit poll is surely bang on or they have even more - still had a slight hope it was at least 20 or so over.

I'd have thought this means Putney's out too although that BBC page is suggesting 89% chance of it going Labour, as well as suggesting Battersea and Kensington held.

nashwan, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:45 (six years ago)

Xxp cuddle Douglas please

xp nah we’ve watched no deal go from a fantasy to a full-on demand by millions of voters thanks to the press enabling it every step of the way. The deck is too stacked.

gyac, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:45 (six years ago)

I took him out for a few miler walk with a four-pack and we both feel better for it tbh!

calzino, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:48 (six years ago)

And a massively diminished press at that. This is what media collapse feels like, really.

stet, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:48 (six years ago)

gyac
Posted: 20 July 2018 at 09:44:16
Oh and by the way, fuck the complicit media letting people parrot “no deal is better than a bad deal” completely unchallenged. That something favoured by maybe 10% of people at an absolute maximum is seriously under consideration is nothing less than a dereliction of duty and everyone who let this shit go by unchallenged or undiscussed deserves to be completely ashamed.

gyac, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:48 (six years ago)

xxp love you calz

gyac, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:49 (six years ago)

brexit appeals to a kind of patriotic brain-stem mode of thinking that doesn't admit of actual detail and the tories quickly and successfully aligned themselves with that patriotic mode. it left labour with no good choices. there really isn't any other reason for anyone in blyth to vote for boris johnson and the tories that i can make out (i have been to blyth! it was a long time ago though)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:50 (six years ago)

I took him out for a few miler walk with a four-pack and we both feel better for it tbh!

― calzino, Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

good man (and boy)

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:51 (six years ago)

Not sure this means anything to anyone but I love these threads and they have got me through a lot, and I love talking to you all about this shit. It helps to put it out there and talk about it rather than just drive myself mad with it.

gyac, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:54 (six years ago)

Here's another thing - stop talking about 'former mining towns' as though social, historical, economic, demographic change doesn't happen. 'Current call centre town' or 'Sports Direct warehouse town' would be much more useful.

— Joe Kennedy (@joekennedy81) December 12, 2019

stet, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:55 (six years ago)

Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out. Johnson unlikely to ever grant an indyref he might lose, but the country is clearly backing one. So, what? Illegitimate one? Some kind of rammy, surely.

stet, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:57 (six years ago)

xps to gyac - yes, feels much better having this thread. 2015 I was in China and had a performance review with my two horrible bosses just as the results were coming in, felt completely alone and hopeless.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:58 (six years ago)

hope this is the last time we ever have to hear from kate hoey

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:59 (six years ago)

Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out. Johnson unlikely to ever grant an indyref he might lose, but the country is clearly backing one. So, what? Illegitimate one? Some kind of rammy, surely.

Putting money on a stooshie. Failing that, a stramash.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:04 (six years ago)

One Conservative on the train, walked past a bunch of downcast Labour people with badges on. Face of anger and contempt, "Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

Can't even enjoy the win. It's the nihilism, same with Brexit, there'll be no street parties for them, just grim joyless determination.

This weird kind of subtext of 'I got the result I voted for but its your fault. so I am still angry"

anvil, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:05 (six years ago)

just learned that rammy is a scottish word from my english colleagues' bemusement.

stet, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:05 (six years ago)

That was my MP on the BBC just now, a while ago they were saying he was predicted to hold at the time of the exit poll but actually it might be really close. Still turned up with a shit eating grin, when asked about the SNP rout he just turned it around to the predicted tory Westminster majority, "now we can get things done". Since his election this man has never set foot in my town, no exaggeration, actually never. They post me a lot of shit, it is hilarious how identical it is to the SNP literature, both of them "ONLY THE TORIES OR THE SNP CAN WIN THIS SEAT! NICOLA STURGEON (never the SNP, only Sturgeon) will give us indyref2!" So I voted SNP, not specifically for "indyref2", just the one of the two parties that can win here that doesn't want to actively kill me.

My brother in England somewhere turned off his phone and went to bed after the exit poll, I promised him I'd stop drinking and stop watching this, I think we both knew that wasn't happening. I've drunk 12 cans of 6.2% neapolitan icecream flavoured pale ale, switching to vodka+squash now. I miss my cat.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:05 (six years ago)

"Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out"

Scotland isn't Catalonia. They can be radicalised though, as bad shit is more likely to happen.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:06 (six years ago)

One Conservative on the train, walked past a bunch of downcast Labour people with badges on. Face of anger and contempt, "Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

Can't even enjoy the win. It's the nihilism, same with Brexit, there'll be no street parties for them, just grim joyless determination.

This weird kind of subtext of 'I got the result I voted for but its your fault. so I am still angry"


They can’t even enjoy the misery they’ve inflicted on the people they hate. Ia, it is nihilism.

My kitten is licking my dried tears off my face, we will all still be here tomorrow.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:09 (six years ago)

"To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness. What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives."

— festive 'gentle slide into fascism' (@setalyas) December 12, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:10 (six years ago)

We sure will Gyac. Kitty <3

Good night to all of youse. It is the night to express appreciation for this thread and the people who inhabit it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:12 (six years ago)

Scotland isn't Catalonia.

Indeed, Catalonia is much wealthier and more middle class.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:13 (six years ago)

"Labour twats" he mutters as he walks past

I'm not trying to hardman but I probably would've had a go tbh. although sitting with one of the directors of the company, that would probably not have been a good idea. he is a strong Labour voter tbf.

anyway I'm home now, just simmering in a pool of my own hate

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:14 (six years ago)

LOL exit poll suggest calz was right to lash out at the Welsh after all!

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:14 (six years ago)

lol I saw someone (an ilxor) post something about how the rest of the UK should break away from England and resisted the urge to post, hang on the Welsh are a bunch of cunts as well!

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:17 (six years ago)

Bleakest of lols at the remain alliance crowd. They’re still blaming Labour for “not cooperating”.

Blyth Valley - Tories win by 1,000, while 3,000 people vote for Greens and Libdems. Thanks a lot.

— Chris McKenzie (@ChrisMcK2018) December 12, 2019

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:18 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsu6ZsWIMIY

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:18 (six years ago)

as a borders person I can report that Wales is like 50% the worst sort of English people

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:20 (six years ago)

I mean actually English

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:20 (six years ago)

I think Blyth Valley might end up getting gerrymandered to Wales after the next boundary reforms!

calzino, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:23 (six years ago)

sad to report that baggymp on channel 4 is pulling all the tools from his twatbag

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:25 (six years ago)

is it too late to join the Labour so I can vote for literally anyone from the left of the party to stop them replacing Corbyn with some Blairite scum?

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:26 (six years ago)

scottish labour rightists on twitter giving it laldy as if their recipe of unionism and remain was what was called for at this election.

labour in scotland needs to have a conversation about independence if it wants to continue to have any relevance

no colonel poo it isn't!

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:27 (six years ago)

I'm not trying to hardman but I probably would've had a go tbh

I didn't really expect it as it came out of blue, and I felt dispirited rather than angry

What made me more angry was a lib dem kind of guy that was 'helpfully' trying to explain to people that at least a large majority means Boris can ignore the ERG and have a softer brexit, and mate no one gaf about your soft brexit right now mr slacks

anvil, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:29 (six years ago)

xp or not

I had idle plans to do that anyway expecting this result, but I didn't expect the result to be this bad even though I knew it was likely to be shit

I even went to sign up but balked a bit at the £50-odd a year but tbh I could probably afford that, provided I don't totally shit the bed and tell my job to go fuck itself, which isn't 100% guaranteed I won't do in the next couple of weeks

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:29 (six years ago)

Def isn't. Join and elect a left leader. Need to keep pushing the same policies. That's fight on the electoral front, anyway..XP to CP

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:30 (six years ago)

Swindon north was labour til 2010

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:31 (six years ago)

now 16,000 tory majority

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:31 (six years ago)

"Nicola Sturgeon is the most divisive politician in Scotland" - Some Tory boy HAHAHA

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:32 (six years ago)


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