Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

Bush on the NS blog:

Neil's question is the significant policy question here. The Conservatives have been elected on a set of promises that you cannot reconcile with one another: to spend £32bn extra on the NHS, cut national insurance, and keep income tax and VAT flat and falling, while leaving the customs union and single market, and to replace that with a US-UK trade deal that leaves the NHS and agriculture untouched and a UK-India deal that lowers migration.

My conservative candidate was accused of antisemitism, islamophobia and ableism just this week. Nobody gave a shit and she'll probably still win because all its ever been about is hating immigrants and trying to get one over on your neighbours. I've been trying to block it out but we are surrounded by stupid and/or evil people for years and they are winning

This is what a positive take looks like, not sure I buy it at all

Don’t mourn, organise. 2017 proved a left programme is popular. The conditions just weren’t in our favour this time. We need to focus on building counter power to change the political landscape beyond the electoral cycle. Solidarity with workers and the oppressed everywhere.

— Max Shanly (@maxshanly) December 12, 2019

When I asked how much darker could it get after Mark Francois I hadn't reckoned with Kate Hoey - the ghouls are out in force tonight.

I'm so angry I was loudly calling all conservative voters cunts on a train through Kent to the consternation of my work colleague but nobody wanted to fight me. Probably just as well cos am soft as shit tbh
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:03

Good man

Please forget I ever suggested there'd be 'no more majorities' :[

Somehow I never thought it would be this bad.

2017 proved a left programme is popular

So popular it keeps getting wrecked in elections.

1:0 to labour

Mark Francois thing about the "red wall being like the Berlin wall" was one of the most stupid things I've ever heard, so much so that it left Neil almost speechless.

xp my colleague said he has some friends who vote tory and I just chucked out the they're either stupid or evil line, it's tired maybe but it's fucking true. My grandma votes conservative. She is stupid

It's her birthday today. Happy birthday grandma you stupid cunt

lib dem candidate in Sunderland count wearing a Sunderland shirt

So when Scotland becomes independent are we still calling this place the UK?

thinking about all of you as I’m watching this election news. if you can, try to do something to lift your spirits just a little bit this weekend. you’re still here.

had a party at my friends’ place following the 2004 US election because we needed the time to remember that friends and community matter

then, back to the streets

Tories take Blythe fuck

Fuck Blyth valley

Blyth Valley votes Conservative. Fucking hell.

This is proper wank

Stupid stupid cunts.

Lib dems and greens the difference.

Shook, still.

To find something positive in this mess: g'wan Scotland. If not an independence ref, they might try and cut a deal like NI to stay in the customs union at the very least.

Other than that: England is fucked. And most English voters voted for it to be fucked. It's enraging. Hope you all can get some sleep tonight <3

(Blyth is blue ffs)

lib dem candidate in Sunderland count wearing a Sunderland shirt

Looked like a simpleton

Labour down 15% in Blyth.

Gonna see this shit across the country. Fuck the Lib Dems forever

I'm honestly counting the reasons why I'm still staying in this godforsaken place that clearly hates me even more than it hates itself, and although I don't go often I have to say that ILB FAPs are one of the few things that come to mind as events that are truly pleasurable and not just "well I went to see this or that play/concert/film/whatever". So thanks for that.

ugh braying Tory cunts in Blyth.

🐶💄👎 https://t.co/32mWr2be7V

— twitch.tv/Limmy (@DaftLimmy) December 12, 2019

You can’t pin that loss on the Lib Dems, labour blew a huge majority

Very grim in the short-term but fighting until there is nothing left for nobody is all we have.

I know it's not the time but Lab just need to keep offering socialism, even if the country chooses barbarism.

First instinct is just to fuck off back up to Scotland or off somewhere else, but it’s such a gross privileged position to be in to even think like that.

the Welsh letting us down again!

You can’t pin that loss on the Lib Dems, labour blew a huge majority

― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:35 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

obvious prediction: brexity labour areas will fall to the tories. second ref vs get brexit done is a no brainer for the gammon. this is where the bloodbath will stem from

You can’t pin that loss on the Lib Dems, labour blew a huge majority

(xxp) Blyth Valley has a large Welsh community, does it?

oops wrongly scapegoating the Welsh again, better check myself!

I'm still in the first stage of denial, maybe it just happened that loads of IPSOS/Mori cunts only bumped into Tory voting cunts at 144 (or whatever number it is) polling stations:p

Bit early for an autopsy, but maybe if they got their central brexit message out clearer, cleaner and quicker?

The kittens and talking to friends are helping. Please look after yourselves. We have to pull together more than ever now.

And I feel never sadder to be right about a 2nd ref being a disaster. What can you do when a plurality of people have been radicalised like this? The work to undo that is granular and takes time.

Xps to gyac

If Blyth Valley's gone the exit poll is surely bang on or they have even more - still had a slight hope it was at least 20 or so over.

I'd have thought this means Putney's out too although that BBC page is suggesting 89% chance of it going Labour, as well as suggesting Battersea and Kensington held.

Xxp cuddle Douglas please

xp nah we’ve watched no deal go from a fantasy to a full-on demand by millions of voters thanks to the press enabling it every step of the way. The deck is too stacked.

I took him out for a few miler walk with a four-pack and we both feel better for it tbh!

And a massively diminished press at that. This is what media collapse feels like, really.

gyac
Posted: 20 July 2018 at 09:44:16
Oh and by the way, fuck the complicit media letting people parrot “no deal is better than a bad deal” completely unchallenged. That something favoured by maybe 10% of people at an absolute maximum is seriously under consideration is nothing less than a dereliction of duty and everyone who let this shit go by unchallenged or undiscussed deserves to be completely ashamed.

xxp love you calz

brexit appeals to a kind of patriotic brain-stem mode of thinking that doesn't admit of actual detail and the tories quickly and successfully aligned themselves with that patriotic mode. it left labour with no good choices. there really isn't any other reason for anyone in blyth to vote for boris johnson and the tories that i can make out (i have been to blyth! it was a long time ago though)

I took him out for a few miler walk with a four-pack and we both feel better for it tbh!

― calzino, Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

good man (and boy)

Not sure this means anything to anyone but I love these threads and they have got me through a lot, and I love talking to you all about this shit. It helps to put it out there and talk about it rather than just drive myself mad with it.

Here's another thing - stop talking about 'former mining towns' as though social, historical, economic, demographic change doesn't happen. 'Current call centre town' or 'Sports Direct warehouse town' would be much more useful.

— Joe Kennedy (@joekennedy81) December 12, 2019

Wondering what happens in Scotland if these results play out. Johnson unlikely to ever grant an indyref he might lose, but the country is clearly backing one. So, what? Illegitimate one? Some kind of rammy, surely.

xps to gyac - yes, feels much better having this thread. 2015 I was in China and had a performance review with my two horrible bosses just as the results were coming in, felt completely alone and hopeless.

hope this is the last time we ever have to hear from kate hoey