Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

marr had a spin on this majority that i hadn't thought about - it will allow for a 'softer' brexit than a narrow one would have. I'm clutching at straws aren't i.

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:51 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

first message i got about result from a v political junkie type said this, but as noted its hard to say how far johnson is from the erg even if he decided to drop their firm hand from his shoulder

Pretty sure Johnson will kick the ERG into touch now.

was there much to the antisemitism charges?

captain of my local bowling team bret stephens has an article in the times today comparing corbyn's antisemitism to trump's xenophobia and misogyny.

surely that isn't a meaningful comparison

He still has a chance to go fuck it let’s have a customs union to get Brexit fully finished by the end of 2020, because the final settlement matters more than the withdrawal agreement , but I’m not sure that flies withtout free movement and I’m pretty sure that’s not on the table.

It’s caymans on Thames and fuck the rest.

(xxp) He's still surrounded by Raab, Patel, Kwarteng etc though.

I’ve turned over to the BBC Scotland: it’s a bit cheerier.

heartbroken

I'm so angry I was loudly calling all conservative voters cunts on a train through Kent to the consternation of my work colleague but nobody wanted to fight me. Probably just as well cos am soft as shit tbh

I hear you, Col., I hear you.

was there much to the antisemitism charges?

Hi treesh - frankly, no.

I am sorry for the false hope.

Looks like the polls didn't pick up the level of swing in NE and Midlands to Con.

Nothing in the crossbreaks to indicate that.

No way of being able to model for it.

Hence my analysis was based on data that was completely broken. Apologies!

— Dr Moderate (@centrist_phone) December 12, 2019

Dear god, empathy and love to y'all, would invite you to come stay with us but, well, you've seen the state of the place. Please be well.

apparently people on the right think the antisemitism playbook works like gangbusters.. they been importing it here in the states for at least the last year

good luck Scotland

was there much to the antisemitism charges?

Like any of the arseholes who voted Tory give one fuck about anti-Semitism - apart from the Jewish ones, of course, and they're deluding themselves about the real dangers.

Guess millions of inhabitants of this odd little island want nothing more than the clock to be turned back to some rose-tinted past when Britannia ruled the waves etc. The only comfort I can get from any of this crap is laughing at them when it all goes tits up, although since it'll be going down the shitter for everyone else it'll be cold comfort indeed.

4th election "won" in Scotland on the basis of independence.

UDI and people's war imo

Okay I’ve decided that I’m just not believing this exit poll shite. Not quite ready to give up on happiness just yet. Give me just a couple more hours of dreaming better dreams

I’ve turned over to the BBC Scotland: it’s a bit cheerier.

― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:32 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ha. did same.

oching heck.

To echo gyac upthread, I do hope this ultimately spells good news for Scotland and NI, no matter how far in the offing. The so-called Union is a sinking ship for anyone who isn't a member of the ruling class.

Scots should head down to Berwick with mallets and bolsters and get to work on that bridge.

Turned over from Farrage, got Widdicombe.

This is the darkest timeline.

... I looked up to find Mark Francois.

also known more people than usual intending to spoil their ballot. pissed off at them too. pissed off at everyone. and need to go make a fucking cake for a bake sale.

I do think that the Tories could have spent the entire campaign sipping port and chortling at thin air and it wouldn't have made much difference - the dumbwits want to "get Brexit over with and move on", and that's what they were voting for. Whoever was Labour leader, whatever they said, it wouldn't have changed a thing. Still, hindsight and all that.

... how much darker can it get?

(xxxp)

Already Twitter is full of "who is to blame"

Tell you who is to blame. The fucking tories. All 15 million of them.

I forget which commentator on radio 4 said this but no one has a fucking clue what Boris will post February 1st. I suspect backsliding on climate change commitments will be near the top of the agenda, along with massive increase of private enterprises in the withered public services. It’s fucking grim.

I feel like I’m clutching at straws at this point, it’s been a horrible, horrible night, but at least the young seem energised by a (relatively) left party and manifesto. I’d be interested to see the proportion of people aged under 40 voted Tory. And the current set up of the Labour leadership selection processes means that there will be a leftist successor to Corbyn.

please, enough with the "timelines", this is reality and needs to be dealt with

Bush on the NS blog:

Neil's question is the significant policy question here. The Conservatives have been elected on a set of promises that you cannot reconcile with one another: to spend £32bn extra on the NHS, cut national insurance, and keep income tax and VAT flat and falling, while leaving the customs union and single market, and to replace that with a US-UK trade deal that leaves the NHS and agriculture untouched and a UK-India deal that lowers migration.

My conservative candidate was accused of antisemitism, islamophobia and ableism just this week. Nobody gave a shit and she'll probably still win because all its ever been about is hating immigrants and trying to get one over on your neighbours. I've been trying to block it out but we are surrounded by stupid and/or evil people for years and they are winning

This is what a positive take looks like, not sure I buy it at all

Don’t mourn, organise. 2017 proved a left programme is popular. The conditions just weren’t in our favour this time. We need to focus on building counter power to change the political landscape beyond the electoral cycle. Solidarity with workers and the oppressed everywhere.

— Max Shanly (@maxshanly) December 12, 2019

When I asked how much darker could it get after Mark Francois I hadn't reckoned with Kate Hoey - the ghouls are out in force tonight.

I'm so angry I was loudly calling all conservative voters cunts on a train through Kent to the consternation of my work colleague but nobody wanted to fight me. Probably just as well cos am soft as shit tbh
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:03

Good man

Please forget I ever suggested there'd be 'no more majorities' :[

Somehow I never thought it would be this bad.

2017 proved a left programme is popular

So popular it keeps getting wrecked in elections.

1:0 to labour

Mark Francois thing about the "red wall being like the Berlin wall" was one of the most stupid things I've ever heard, so much so that it left Neil almost speechless.

xp my colleague said he has some friends who vote tory and I just chucked out the they're either stupid or evil line, it's tired maybe but it's fucking true. My grandma votes conservative. She is stupid

It's her birthday today. Happy birthday grandma you stupid cunt

lib dem candidate in Sunderland count wearing a Sunderland shirt

So when Scotland becomes independent are we still calling this place the UK?

thinking about all of you as I’m watching this election news. if you can, try to do something to lift your spirits just a little bit this weekend. you’re still here.

had a party at my friends’ place following the 2004 US election because we needed the time to remember that friends and community matter

then, back to the streets

Tories take Blythe fuck

Fuck Blyth valley

Blyth Valley votes Conservative. Fucking hell.

This is proper wank

Stupid stupid cunts.

Lib dems and greens the difference.