Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

think it just hasn't sunk in for me yet

but fuck this country

weird that I drove myself into a panic with the brexit vote and even the us midterms but I seem to be remarkably calm about this one, though it's much much worse. I am glad i bought the ingredients for many martinis though

yeah it's great to have it confirmed to the Tories that lying is for winners and there are no consequences for anything, that will really build us a pleasant future

(oh I'm still not in bed)

marr had a spin on this majority that i hadn't thought about - it will allow for a 'softer' brexit than a narrow one would have. I'm clutching at straws aren't i.

They’ve not been galvanised enough by the last decade.

xp if May had had this majority it might have. don't see Boris going down that route after all this but hey ho, give me some of those straws anyway

I imagine this is the path to a Singapore-style "democracy" where there is one massively dominant party and nobody else can get a foothold because it controls the media completely, and leaving is the only sane choice

Love and solidarity to all itt

I don't understand why the pound is surging in response.

because bankers are tory cunts

But hasn't a no-deal Brexit just become likelier? Bah, this stuff is gibberish to me.

why the fuck did I not put some money on this

xp No, a Johnson deal goes through the commons easily.

what is wrong with you people

good q

I imagine this is the path to a Singapore-style "democracy" where there is one massively dominant party and nobody else can get a foothold because it controls the media completely, and leaving is the only sane choice

felt this strongly after the last Australian election

if - at this moment in history with so much at stake - people will still cheerfully vote for the shits, with masks off and cards on the table - then what hope for anything different ever again?

i know it sounds defeatist but it was a pretty visceral feeling

Visiting Americans aren't allowed to ask that question, treesh.

jesus fuck the darkness of this country, the small-minded misery.

I'm in a fairly safe Tory seat but still had friends not sure which way to vote today. (ie green/ld/lab)

marr had a spin on this majority that i hadn't thought about - it will allow for a 'softer' brexit than a narrow one would have. I'm clutching at straws aren't i.

/I imagine this is the path to a Singapore-style "democracy" where there is one massively dominant party and nobody else can get a foothold because it controls the media completely, and leaving is the only sane choice/

felt this strongly after the last Australian election

if - at this moment in history with so much at stake - people will still cheerfully vote for the shits, with masks off and cards on the table - then what hope for anything different ever again?

i know it sounds defeatist but it was a pretty visceral feeling

yeah xp to Tracer with a big majority Boris can do whatever he wants and doesn't have to please every single grouping in his party. If he wants to be the guy that gets Brexit done and have people cheering for him he just passes the agreement he already has.

Seat by seat forecasts:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50424263

marr had a spin on this majority that i hadn't thought about - it will allow for a 'softer' brexit than a narrow one would have. I'm clutching at straws aren't i.

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:51 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

first message i got about result from a v political junkie type said this, but as noted its hard to say how far johnson is from the erg even if he decided to drop their firm hand from his shoulder

Pretty sure Johnson will kick the ERG into touch now.

was there much to the antisemitism charges?

captain of my local bowling team bret stephens has an article in the times today comparing corbyn's antisemitism to trump's xenophobia and misogyny.

surely that isn't a meaningful comparison

He still has a chance to go fuck it let’s have a customs union to get Brexit fully finished by the end of 2020, because the final settlement matters more than the withdrawal agreement , but I’m not sure that flies withtout free movement and I’m pretty sure that’s not on the table.

It’s caymans on Thames and fuck the rest.

(xxp) He's still surrounded by Raab, Patel, Kwarteng etc though.

I’ve turned over to the BBC Scotland: it’s a bit cheerier.

heartbroken

I'm so angry I was loudly calling all conservative voters cunts on a train through Kent to the consternation of my work colleague but nobody wanted to fight me. Probably just as well cos am soft as shit tbh

I hear you, Col., I hear you.

was there much to the antisemitism charges?

Hi treesh - frankly, no.

I am sorry for the false hope.

Looks like the polls didn't pick up the level of swing in NE and Midlands to Con.

Nothing in the crossbreaks to indicate that.

No way of being able to model for it.

Hence my analysis was based on data that was completely broken. Apologies!

— Dr Moderate (@centrist_phone) December 12, 2019

Dear god, empathy and love to y'all, would invite you to come stay with us but, well, you've seen the state of the place. Please be well.

apparently people on the right think the antisemitism playbook works like gangbusters.. they been importing it here in the states for at least the last year

good luck Scotland

was there much to the antisemitism charges?

Like any of the arseholes who voted Tory give one fuck about anti-Semitism - apart from the Jewish ones, of course, and they're deluding themselves about the real dangers.

Guess millions of inhabitants of this odd little island want nothing more than the clock to be turned back to some rose-tinted past when Britannia ruled the waves etc. The only comfort I can get from any of this crap is laughing at them when it all goes tits up, although since it'll be going down the shitter for everyone else it'll be cold comfort indeed.

4th election "won" in Scotland on the basis of independence.

UDI and people's war imo

Okay I’ve decided that I’m just not believing this exit poll shite. Not quite ready to give up on happiness just yet. Give me just a couple more hours of dreaming better dreams

I’ve turned over to the BBC Scotland: it’s a bit cheerier.

― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:32 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ha. did same.

oching heck.

To echo gyac upthread, I do hope this ultimately spells good news for Scotland and NI, no matter how far in the offing. The so-called Union is a sinking ship for anyone who isn't a member of the ruling class.

Scots should head down to Berwick with mallets and bolsters and get to work on that bridge.

Turned over from Farrage, got Widdicombe.

This is the darkest timeline.

... I looked up to find Mark Francois.

also known more people than usual intending to spoil their ballot. pissed off at them too. pissed off at everyone. and need to go make a fucking cake for a bake sale.

I do think that the Tories could have spent the entire campaign sipping port and chortling at thin air and it wouldn't have made much difference - the dumbwits want to "get Brexit over with and move on", and that's what they were voting for. Whoever was Labour leader, whatever they said, it wouldn't have changed a thing. Still, hindsight and all that.

... how much darker can it get?

(xxxp)