it's been a while since i saw manhattan but i always imagine that final scene is the last time hemingway's character ever sees allen's
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
I'm thinking less of the age difference in AH (which doesn't seem egregious to me) and more the general vibe of casting men against younger love interests, which is obviously a bigger problem. AH definitely paints the WA character as a solipsistic asshole loser that'll never learn and that Keaton is right to dump his ass.
― closed beta (NotEnough), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
was trying to think of instances where his scripts called for casing older women with younger men - Bullets Over Broadway def the most memorable, but I think there's a couple others I'm forgetting
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
So like...am I good or is there anything I'm missing out on?
I've seen three of the 17 he's made since then*, and enjoyed one of them a lot, but your life will not be especially enriched by it. * counting one he only acted in here, because: dermatologist Sharon Stone has never been able to arrange a girl / girl / boy threesome with her also-curious female friend, so she naturally asks her 78-year-old patient Woody Allen if he can hook her up. Woody turns to the most attractive and virile man he knows, 56-year-old John Turturro, and soon is operating a thriving business as a pimp with Turturro his sole ho. feel free to guess who wrote and directed this movie at any point.
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
Bill Cosby!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
Jeffrey Epstein before he didn't kill himself?
― I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
Possibly the man who thought that a movie featuring his Big Lebowski character as the protagonist was actually a sound and reasonable idea?
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
It's not on quite the level of, like, Dylan Baker spending half a decade to get his Dr. Maplewood passion project off the ground, but it's not that far off.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
(Fictional example, btw. No libel of Mr. Baker intended.)
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
is the casting of annie Hall age-inappropriate?
It's like an 11-year gap, and it's based on their actual romance, so
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Barbara Kopple's doc Wild Man Blues is better than any WA film of the last 20 years that i've seen. Woody's parents humiliate him at the end.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
as will all of our parents
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 13 December 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link
Can report that A Rainy Day in New York is now on American Airlines domestic flights on demand...
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 27 December 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
Wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the Literary Clusterfucks thread
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/03/ronan-farrow-hachette-woody-allen-memoir
― the ball comes in, we're like this *grabs assistant coach* (Matt #2), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link
big whoop
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 March 2020 02:47 (four years ago) link
Was wondering whether there are other cases of someone leaving a publishing house because it published their rival/enemy.
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 5 March 2020 03:37 (four years ago) link
They've backed down
BREAKING: In a statement, Hachette Book Group has announced that it will not publish Woody Allen’s memoir 'A Propos of Nothing, originally scheduled for sale in April 2020, and will return all rights to the author. Our story is forthcoming.— Publishers Weekly (@PublishersWkly) March 6, 2020
― Alba, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:07 (four years ago) link
Little, Brown editors staged a walkout out over it I saw on Twitter
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link
interview w/ one of the employees who walked out:
https://slate.com/culture/2020/03/woody-allen-memoir-hachette-little-brown-walkout.html
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
Obviously Hachette’s behavior is unethical. That’s why it was hidden like the shameful little deal it was. But it’s also very stupid! One reason: there is more reporting (not from Ronan) coming on Woody Allen. Hachette is aware of this. https://t.co/7Vy238BtNF— Jon Lovett (@jonlovett) March 5, 2020
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
Do you see any value in publishing the book?I do not. Perhaps [ Allen ] still has fans, but I don’t think any of that matters in the slightest considering the things he’s been accused of doing.
I do not. Perhaps [ Allen ] still has fans, but I don’t think any of that matters in the slightest considering the things he’s been accused of doing.
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
perhaps
also three posts above itt tbf
matters in the slightest considering the things he’s been accused of doing
yikes
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link
oh wait no, derp
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link
😎
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link
Wooooow I didn't realize that the deal was done ages ago and the PHYSICAL BOOKS are probably already printed and *in a warehouse* somewhere and are now going to have to be scrapped. I worked at Hachette for 10 years and I worked on some projects with levels of secrecy (Twilight related, mostly), and this whole thing had to involve A LOT OF PEOPLE from the publisher down to the pressmen. Fucking a.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
I've always enjoyed "pulping" as a term of art
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
It's just so amazingly...STUPID. How do all the people who need to approve something like this make a mistake of this magnitude and not realize it's a moral and PR NIGHTMARE?
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
oh they realized that's why they kept it secret
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
they must've been like "this sucks and we'll take flack for it but maybe we'll make lots of money anyway!"
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link
Yes, the secrecy PROVES THE POINT!! It's incredible. I haven't worked there for a while so idk what's going on but I can only imagine that a LOT of pressure must have been applied somewhere to overcome the better judgement of at least some of the top level staff who would have needed to be in on this.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
countdown to Jeffrey Wells 'Khmer Rouge wokester' post in 5 4 3 2 1
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link
fwiw i understand the PR necessities
i remain agnostic on Allen's guilt and am a fan of his work, but if there is new evidence i'll listen (don't at me)
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
and here it is as predicted
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2020/03/victory-for-obstinate-wokester-bullies/
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link
also io, can u get me a job at h4ch3tte?
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link
They weren't too happy with me when I left there and that was like 7+ years ago, so I doubt it. :(((((
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
an Associate Vice President or three is about to be fired so you might find an opening xp
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
im not that seniorish
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link
i actually applied online for a job there last month *crickets*
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link
I am undecided about all of this. It would have been better to have knowledge about what's in the book before judging the deal, but I also understand why that's not possible. He may have admitted to some things in the book, or, more likely, he may have lied about his past to further his career.
I thought his writings in the New Yorker in the early 2000s were garbage.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 6 March 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link
he may have lied about his past to further his career.
How do you further your career at 84, when none of your remaining films will be released in America?
Didn't read any 21st century pieces, but his first two collections of humor pieces are good (c 1968-73), as is the later story "The Kugelmass Episode."
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:22 (four years ago) link
also none of this week's brouhaha has to do with what might/could be in the book. nuthin'.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:24 (four years ago) link
he probably wanted the advance so he could provide for his daughter wife
― college bong rip guy (silby), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:24 (four years ago) link
"The Kugelmass Episode" is a masterpiece. I read it in a short story anthology in the early '90s.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:26 (four years ago) link
whah ha ha, my sides xp
srsly he's a creep, but they've been married for 23 years
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:28 (four years ago) link
23 years of . . . really something
― mookieproof, Saturday, 7 March 2020 06:03 (four years ago) link
plus 5 years before marriage
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 06:37 (four years ago) link
I've not seen many of his C21st films, but went to Midnight In Paris with a longtime friend who, like me, had once been a bigger fan. Half an hour in I turned to her and whispered "omg did you know this was a Kugelmass Episode riff?" and she nodded gleefully
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Saturday, 7 March 2020 07:03 (four years ago) link
buyable in the US
https://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781951627348/apropos-of-nothing/
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link
When Woody is now basically claiming Mia Farrow molested Ronan, I feel fine calling him a pedophile rapist forever from here on.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link